Skip to comments.REMOVE BOEHNER TODAY! (Vanity)
Posted on 10/16/2013 1:07:10 PM PDT by Hostage
CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVES NOW AND TELL THEM TO REMOVE BOEHNER AS SPEAKER TODAY BEFORE THE EVENING VOTE!
LIGHT UP THE PHONE LINES!
I have a sneaky plan but I need to know how many votes it takes to force a new election for Speaker and whether or not the minority party can count in that vote.
The GOP conservative should rebel in the House against Boehner and vote him out as the Speaker and replace him with a conservative Speaker willing to do battle and take Obama to the mat.
In fact the GOP should take the following line in talking to Obama.
"Look, Barry, we have the votes to stop you cold and we have decided to do that.That's the discussion a real Speaker of the House should be having with Obama.
"We control the government funduiing and we are going to exercuise that control.
"We are talking about a complete shutdown where not so much as a dime will be available for you to even heat the White House, so get ready to stay at the local Holiday Inn on your own dime for the duration.
"the only thing we will fund during that time is the US military you hate so much.
"When you are ready to talk about seriously creating a budget...one that is balanced by the way, and reducing the debt...and we are talking about a true reduction in the actual amount we owe, not just a reduction in the percentage of your spending increases, and we are talking anout an end to ObamCare. When you are ready to seriously talk to us about those things...get back with us.
"Oh, BTW, Barry. One other thing we will fund is the following. The House of Reprentatives will meet each day with the express purpose of impeaching your sorry backside every single day for the next 60 working days. Impeach you each day on different charges. 60 times, Barry. When you get ready to talk to us, then the first thing the Senate will do will be to act on those 60 impeachments before anything else.
"So, we have the votes, and we are firm. Give us a call when you are ready to talk. Bye now."
Could they actually call together a vote to do so in the very short amount of time before the vote on this bill? The problem is that it is Congress - it would take at least a full day to get them to even agree to call a vote on this at all. And only the group within the GOP that explicitly represents the Tea Party could be counted on to remove Boehner as House speaker.
They had their chance in Jan but didn’t pull the trigger.
They (the Conservative Republicans) knew full well what they were getting.
I am not happy with Boehner, but the real failure here are the REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE!!!
They need gone far more than Boehner!
They are the ones who capitulated... A default was not going to happen, but the Senate republicans gave away the store.
Tea Party needs to focus on increasing its caucus in the Senate and growing its house presence, period.
Blaming it all on Boehner is silly.
If you are going to go down that road, it will have to be after this vote this evening. But, to be sure, there will be plenty of chances to do this since this fight is of course just gonna periodically resurface again and again anyhow.
The real failure here is with the electorate. They re-elected Obama and gave the Dems the Senate.
Until we change that, it is just pipe dreams.
Most of those people have long since disappeared, or they're singing a different tune now.
” Developed socialist society is a natural, logical stage on the road to communism”.
1977 Soviet Constitution
Here is the end game. Is it worth going to the mat to resist?
please stop injecting common sense and logic into the discussion.
RINO Radio hosts are doing their best to keep him on life support,, like our nation,, wheezing to an inglorious end,, abandoned by those who swore oaths.. GoPoop.
Sorry. I forgot where I was.
Agreed,, but folks need release and relief..
As of September 26, 2013 there were 232 republicans, 200 democrats and 3 vacancies.
A majority vote of 432 reps is 221.
All of the dems can be counted to vote for Boehner. But they will need 21 republicans to join them in keeping him as Speaker.
So it is feasible to hold an electronic poll right now just among republicans to see if 221 will send a signal to Boehner. They need not have the entire House vote on this. They just need a count to let the Speaker know he best cancel tonight’s debt ceiling vote.
I just tweeted and emailed my rep, Ted Yost, to call for Boehner’s resignation. I said we need a real conservative as Speaker.
I’ve said all along the Tea Party congressmen should vote to elect a true conservative speaker and ask the republicans to “join” them. Then kick the ones who vote for Pelosi out of the party.
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boner is a chicken. pluck him
Don’t confuse the 1 national election with the nation as a whole.... playing games with electoral votes is not the same as representing the people.
Conservatives need to better leverage the congress, this is where they will be able to affect change, but they cannot do so if the upper house has no will to fight for anything.
This was a fools errand from the get go, political theater, that was always going to end the way it did. What lesson that should be learned is that we need more conservative senators... Even if we had every republican in the house this would have been the end game as long as the senate was going to do what everyone knew it was going to do.
It’s the damn liberal media’s fault.. Plain and simple,, like there voter base and audience,, dumbed&doped down to the nth degree..
No. He fought with the cards he had. The only crack would have come if the polls hit the Dems harder than they would the Republicans, we all know/knew that would not happen. The media and Obama control the message.
They, the republicans, don’t need to have a vote per se. They need only poll themselves to see if 221 of their 232 caucus will send a message to Boehner that they have the votes to remove him.
He played the cards dealt him?
Then he should have folded 3 months ago and saved us all the melodrama.
You aren’t getting a speaker like that until you have an caucus that is in the majority... right now tea party size in the house is enough that it can’t be ignored, but not so much it can rule the day... and the fact its virtually non existant in the Senate means nothing is going to change in the near term.
Tea party must grow its ranks in both houses, but particularly in the Senate if it wants to truly effect change.
Could Boehner, on his own, request a vote of confidence to remain as speaker, prior to conducting any future business?
Gotta’ start somewhere, and Boehner has proven to be untrustworthy and unreliable as Speaker (at least to Repubs - Dems love him!). Removing Boehner would really scare a lot of RINOs and start the ball rolling to replace the traitors.
This whole thing was political theater, no real change had any chance of coming from it folks... Other than it may have woken up a lot of apolitical folks to just how out of touch DC is with the rest of the nation.
We’ll see if that happened next Nov.
True, but again, this is Congress - to do even that will take at least a day or longer. Remember that we are still talking about the federal gov’t here. Moreover, 221 out of 232 cannot be counted on. Remember, out of the Republicans who initially fought Obamacare, 12 caved within one day of the shutdown - and this was among Republicans that were actually involved in it.
> “The real failure here is with the electorate. They re-elected Obama and gave the Dems the Senate.”
Not so. The real cause is the GOP establishment who gave us Romney because he had money.
The nomination of Romney caused more than six million blue collar Perot type and Reagan democrats to stay home. They saw there was not a bit of difference between Obama and Romney and they were right. Had the GOP given a suitable candidate, Obama would not be president.
Seriously? I think Boehner is not the one to blame here, he clearly got dragged to this unvoluntarily, but once he was in it I think he did the best he could with a losing hand.
The real traitors here, were the Senate Republicans, Boehner knew they weren’t going to hold their ground from the get go, and if they weren’t going to he had no win.
No one was going to let the US truly default over political theater.
Well, if there is any way that a majority of the House could force a vote for speaker then there is a certain way to remove Boner.
1-Tea Party members let it be known they will not vote for Boner.
2-The Dems all vote for Pelosi and with the Tea Party guys refusing to vote for Boner she becomes Speaker.
3-Tea Party members announce they will now vote unanimously for a qualified conservative for Speaker.
4-A new vote for Speaker is forced and the GOPe members can either vote for the new conservative choice or suffer along with Pelosi at the helm.
This all depends on whether or not a majority can by hook or crook force a new election for Speaker.
Boehner and many of the GOP have offered numerous ways out of this mess, with the simple proviso that the budget be ever so gradually brought under control through decreased spending. All ideas proposed by the GOP were ignored, as was Paul Ryans’, ridiculed, as with Cruz, or dismissed as dumb or evil by today’s media cabal. All that partisan divisive rhetoric is lapped up by the 47%. It is their sustenance.
What I’m saying is I think Boehner has done the best he could do given the circumstances and this manner of president we are now dealing with. Im still glad Cruz spoke up and put a spotlight on what’s happening, but it was time to move on. It’s probably time for the Libertarian Party to grow and grow quickly. I may become a Libertarian although their history of pacifism worries me. We have a President with a cruel streak when dealing with the American People. We have not seen the worst he is capable of. Obama hopes for the chance to show us just how bad things can get, because he believes suffering will lead to overall compliance. This is not a normal president, but for now, we are stuck with him, and with his ‘familiar’ Valerie G...A witch calls the trained crow on her shoulder her ‘familiar’.
Same here. Boehner was definitely a mistake. He is no leader in any sense.
Out of 232 republican members there has to be better than Boehner.
FR has a lot of trolls and subversives. I know for a fact that Obama’s ground troops have been in and out of FR.
God Bless You!
Long overdue. The man is worthless.
Agree....but the gaggle of establishment Republicans in the House also deserve a great deal of blame. They couldn’t pull together with the conservatives at the end to send a bill to the Senate. By stalling it, they knew the Senate would come up with an agreement, and Boehner would break the Hastert rule at this late date to avoid “default”.
I agree folks need an outlet, but honestly, this was the only real end game this political theater was going to have.
No one, and I mean no one, was going to risk a preventable default over political theater.
I think we could have gotten more, lets face it, Senate Republicans wouldn’t even hold the line at requiring Obama and the Congress to be forced into Obamacare.... That’s how pathetic they were.
However the end game of not getting much of anything out of it, was always how this was going to end.
I do think, and I know the talking heads aren’t talking about it, that a significant awakening is happening in the electorate, many apolitical types were exposed to just how out of touch DC is with the nation and things we exist for them.
The pivotal image of this theater was not anything that any politician did, it was Vets having to storm their own monuments to take them back from the political elite, who needlessly tried to take them away.
THAT’S POWERFUL! a full 60% of the electorate no longer identifies with any party... And those apolitical types just saw the gloves come off of the big government mind set.
I know a year is a long time in politics, but what was just seen, is not something that isn’t going to light fires in a lot of belly’s who wheretofore had no political interest
Allen West would also be an excellent choice.
You could not be more wrong.
First, your logic leads to the conclusion that the republicans should never mount a fight over anything because they will be defeated by the liberal media.
What about the gun control defeat? The tabling of immigration reform? The last fight over the sequester?
Second, the liberal media is losing viewership and readership year over year and is not the force it once was. The alternative news media and blogosphere are mature enough now to inform Americans of the truth and facts.
Third, Cruz’ strategy caused Obama’s poll number to sink to 37%.
It is not the media that has sunk the republicans, it is the lack of courage and vision of its leadership.
Lost cause. No one who would stand up for conservatism is electable to this position.
Because, once again, Republicans failed at message management. The one chance they had to reframe the debate they wasted because assclowns like Peter King and John McCain used the stage to attack Ted Cruz instead of 0bama.
I would add that we will even cut he military, with the exception of active combat operations. Shut it all down. All of it.
We don't even control the Senate, let alone have a majority of conservatives.
Yes, that is what we need.
Just so folks know:
Rubio just stated he will vote ‘no’ on the Senate Bill
Boehner is no angel and IMO he did not put forth much effort to fight Obammy on the shutdown/debt celing/ZeroCare. It just adds up to too much. McConnell is a traitor, too. Don’t let him get away, either.
Not a chance. He apparently got a standing ovation in the basement today. He’s stabbing us in the back and he’ll get away with it.
I f*CKing hate the GOP.