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Paul Ryan Wants Budget Conference (GOP caves on shutdown?)
Roll Call ^ | 10/10/2013 | Emma Dumain and Niels Lesniewski

Posted on 10/10/2013 9:31:30 AM PDT by Alter Kaker

Updated 12:28 p.m. | House Budget Chairman Paul D. Ryan, R-Wis., told reporters Thursday morning that he intends to go to conference on the budget, signaling the end to one of the year’s greatest impasses between the two parties and chambers.

“We’re gonna start negotiations,” Ryan said. “I intend to go to conference.

“I think when Leader Pelosi said that they would remove all the motions to instruct, that was a good-faith effort to get serious negotiations going,” he continued. “We intend to go to conference on that. As you know, a budget resolution is not sufficient to do all that we need to do, but it’s a step in the right direction.”

Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., flanked by other members of Democratic leadership, announced Oct. 5 that her party was prepared to forfeit its right to offer “motions to instruct” should Republicans name conferees to merge the House and Senate budgets. That removed the threat of forcing Republicans having to take numerous politically difficult but nonbinding votes.

Speaker John A. Boehner made mention of a budget conference as part of an overall offer to President Barack Obama that would extend the debt ceiling for six weeks but not reopen the government.

“What we’re going to do is offer the president the ability to move a temporary increase in the debt ceiling [and] an agreement to go to conference on the budget for his willingness to sit down and discuss with us a way forward to reopen the government and start to deal with America’s pressing problems,” the Ohio Republican said.

Senate Democrats have held the position that both the debt ceiling and the current government shutdown must be addressed before moving into broader negotiations on the top-line spending levels for fiscal 2014 and other budgetary changes.

“We think the only way out of this cycle of constant crises is for the two sides to work together, make some compromises, and get to a fair and responsible long term deal,” Senate Budget Chairwoman Patty Murray said Wednesday. “But it just doesn’t make sense to do that while families and communities are being hurt by this government shutdown and while the threat of a default hangs over our head.”

The Washington Democrat made the comments on the Senate floor while making yet another request for a budget conference committee upon action to avert a default and get the government funded.

“We will sit down and negotiate over anything Republicans want, and we pledge to work as hard as we can, for as long as it takes until we get a fair long-term budget deal to end these constant crises. But first, this current crisis needs to end and the threat of the next one needs to be lifted,” Murray said. “Republicans don’t need a hostage, there are plenty of things Democrats want out of a long term deal that we are very interested in making some compromises for.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cavein; paulryan; shutdown
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To: Alter Kaker

“I think when Leader Pelosi said that they would remove all the motions to instruct, that was a good-faith effort to get serious negotiations going,.............”

It’s NOT that the Democrats don’t negotiate, but actually there is no such thing as negotiation with a Democrat.

Very naive. Paul Ryan should know this.

Apparently we have novices present on our behalf.


41 posted on 10/10/2013 10:15:02 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Alter Kaker
See Paul Ryan.

See Paul Ryan's portable mattress.

See Paul Ryan's portable red light.

See Paul Ryan's sack pf quarters for making change.

Puke in response to anything Paul Ryan!

42 posted on 10/10/2013 10:16:09 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: Alter Kaker

It doesn’t mean they are passing a CR, it means they are talking about negotiating on the budget. OR one could say they might begin negotiations on funding, which is a CR instead of a budget, since they haven’t had a real budget for years.

But its talking about negotiating what is IN the budget, that doesn’t mean anything right now. People are talking like that means they are caving. It says not such thing.

Now, they MIGHT cave, but THIS article says nothing of the sort.

To get budget changes means negotiations..not sure what people think is going to happen....a money fairy drop out of the sky and wave a wand?


43 posted on 10/10/2013 10:20:31 AM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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To: Crimson Elephant; Alter Kaker
People are talking like that means they are caving. It says not such thing.

That's because "people", which should read informed conservatives, recognize the pattern of caving from multiple historical occurrences with the cowards in the House, especially Boehner an the rest of the so-called "GOP Leadership". They have a well-earned reputation of doing something symbolic, as if it means they are either fighting or conservative, and then caving to the Democrats or GOP-E.
44 posted on 10/10/2013 10:23:57 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: redgolum

It finally forced the enemedia to report on obamacare and report all of the negative garbage that it is. It caused obama’s approval to drop quite a bit. With the source code to their software now leaked by hackers... the entire system is unworkable.


45 posted on 10/10/2013 10:24:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: hattend

As heard on Hugh Hewitt’s program yesterday in an interview with Charlie Dent (RINO-PA), it’s clear there are many members of the Republican caucus who think the best way to defund obamacare is to give in on the budget shutdown and debt ceiling, then defeat obamacare through persuasion ... That is, persuade the Democrat Socialists in Congress to support the Republican position. Dent really, truly believes this is the way to defeat obamacare — that this is better than standing firm (audio of the interview is at hughhewitt.com). People this naive — this dumb — shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near a position of responsibility.


46 posted on 10/10/2013 10:24:29 AM PDT by glennaro
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To: Alter Kaker

FUPR


47 posted on 10/10/2013 10:25:14 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: SoConPubbie
Paul Ryan was obviously a VP plant by the globalist elite ptb. He didn't have enough of a voting record in the HOR yet to show that he's no conservative.

Someone expressed a few months ago "never trust a man who married for his money"

48 posted on 10/10/2013 10:28:00 AM PDT by grania
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To: glennaro


I'd take it a step further, they don't believe this, they know that it will fail, but they think it gives them cover with their base, that they really, really care and are really against it, but what else can they do, sniff, sniff.

They are craven cowards and craven liars, and I think many of them actually, in their hearts, believe that everyone should get Healthcare by law, even if it lowers the standard of care and makes it extremely costly for the producers.

They are socialists at heart and are fearful of their base and of losing campaign cash from big-business and other special interests.
49 posted on 10/10/2013 10:28:36 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: glennaro
Dent really, truly believes this is the way to defeat obamacare — that this is better than standing firm (audio of the interview is at hughhewitt.com).

I'd take it a step further, they don't believe this, they know that it will fail, but they think it gives them cover with their base, that they really, really care and are really against it, but what else can they do, sniff, sniff.

They are craven cowards and craven liars, and I think many of them actually, in their hearts, believe that everyone should get Healthcare by law, even if it lowers the standard of care and makes it extremely costly for the producers.

They are socialists at heart and are fearful of their base and of losing campaign cash from big-business and other special interests.
50 posted on 10/10/2013 10:28:59 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: Alter Kaker

this is how ya tell em!
http://www.speaker.gov/contact


51 posted on 10/10/2013 10:29:04 AM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: Alter Kaker

Pelosi? Good faith?

What an effing moron.


52 posted on 10/10/2013 10:33:24 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: redgolum

Using your logic, we may as well go to one party rule.


53 posted on 10/10/2013 10:34:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: freedom462
What should Paul Ryan do now?

Paul Ryan should apologize to the U. S. citizenry, admit his total lack of principle, resign his Congressional seat, vow never to seek any office again, and consider renouncing his citizenship and moving to some appropriate foreign nation more consistent with his complete whorishness.

That's what.

The Illinois Congressional District in which I reside immediately abuts Ryan's Wisconsin Congressional District. He looks and stinks just as bad locally as nationally.

54 posted on 10/10/2013 10:35:07 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
Medicare Part D √

No Child Left Behind √

TARP √

Stimulus √

Auto bailout √

Amnesty - TBD

SS means testing - TBD

Is it any wonder why the establishment parades PR out as the "conservative" voice?


55 posted on 10/10/2013 10:42:29 AM PDT by tnvol01 ("...answering that question w/ specificity uh, you know, is, is, uh above my pay grade.")
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To: Alter Kaker

I wonder whether Paul Ryan ever dreamed, as a freshman congressman, that he would one day become a mere apparatchik doing the bidding of an America-hating Communist. Was this man EVER any good, or did he simply contrive a convincing facade? Bob


56 posted on 10/10/2013 10:45:35 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("Guardian angels, wherever you may be Reach down and keep my soul for me. Al Stewart)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775

“I have come to conclusion I will only vote for conservatives who not only say they are conservative but ones who once elected continued to maintain conservative principles.”

I agree. I will describe that principled sort as a “Cruz Conservative” Drives the libs bat-chit!


57 posted on 10/10/2013 10:47:28 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: redgolum

Too damn bad. KEEP the government partial shutdown in place while the American people slowly digest this nightmare. Who cares how long it goes on? Not me! BOb


58 posted on 10/10/2013 10:47:37 AM PDT by alstewartfan ("Guardian angels, wherever you may be Reach down and keep my soul for me. Al Stewart)
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To: Alter Kaker

The thing that pisses me off the most is the respect they show to their comrade across the aisle. Pelosi could call Ryan and gay granny killer and Ryan would say “She’s acting in good faith.”


59 posted on 10/10/2013 10:47:54 AM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Alter Kaker

The GOP is dead to me.


60 posted on 10/10/2013 10:48:18 AM PDT by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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