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Navy Yard Shooting Another Clinton Gun-Free Zone Fail
Investot's Business Daily ^ | September 17, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 09/17/2013 4:50:48 PM PDT by raptor22

Security: As the usual suspects call for stricter gun control, the fact remains that a gunman with two prior gun-crime arrests entered a secure military facility with a stolen ID and found no one able to shoot back.

It was Fort Hood all over again. Aaron Alexis, a gunman whose prior behavioral warning signs were ignored, opens fire in an installation belonging to the most powerful military on Earth and those who protect our nation and design our weapons are not allowed to have a weapon to defend themselves.

He was more equipped than the 12 people he killed on the base who were not permitted to carry weapons on the base, thanks to former President Bill Clinton.

In 1993 the president issued orders that barred members of the military and their civilian contractors from carrying personal firearms on base. Even officers were disarmed under the law.

Almost as soon as Clinton assumed office, in March 1993 the Army imposed regulations forbidding military personnel from carrying their personal firearms and making it almost impossible for commanders to issue firearms to soldiers in the U.S. for personal protection.

That ban extends to virtually all U.S military bases and related installations.

Under the ruling enacted by the Clinton administration, there must be "a credible and specific threat against personnel" before military personnel "may be authorized to carry firearms for personal protection."

This was the reason that the Fort Hood shooter Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan was able to go on a rampage for a full 10 minutes in 2009 without being stopped.

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1 posted on 09/17/2013 4:50:48 PM PDT by raptor22
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To: raptor22

Other threads have said that this was actually George HW Bush policy.


2 posted on 09/17/2013 4:53:17 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: raptor22

No tiger so toothless as a disarmed military.


3 posted on 09/17/2013 4:54:28 PM PDT by lightman (Prosecute the heresies; pity the heretics.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

It originated under Slick Willie. Close, but no cigar.


4 posted on 09/17/2013 4:54:34 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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Why don’t they call these zones ‘defense free’, or something like that? It’s true, once it’s called ‘gun-free’, the bad guys are welcome to come in with guns, so it’s not a gun-free zone at all.


5 posted on 09/17/2013 4:55:12 PM PDT by stanne
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To: raptor22

Bill Clinton has helped to murder 23 service men.


6 posted on 09/17/2013 4:55:48 PM PDT by stockpirate (My great, great, great, great, grandfather fought in the Revolution, stand up patriots......)
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To: raptor22

... jaw drops... I didn’t know. I just assumed that it was out of some vague PC drift of the command mentality. I didn’t know it was a specific order. It sounds like it was an Executive Order from Clinton as CIC.


7 posted on 09/17/2013 4:56:42 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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GW Bush could have done away with it.

He was busy defending the country.

I doubt if any of his advisors (way too many from across the aisle in his administration) brought it up to him.


8 posted on 09/17/2013 4:57:16 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: raptor22

Send out the MSM clowns to question H!.


9 posted on 09/17/2013 5:04:02 PM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: raptor22
It was Fort Hood all over again...

How many attacks by Muslims have we had? 10 billion? Yet liberals and RINOs still won't profile. Same with this situation: There can be a billion Fort hoods and they will still refuse the military the 2nd amendment.

10 posted on 09/17/2013 5:08:54 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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Last night while flipping through channels there was some host on MSNBC (I know, but it was like looking at a car wreck - I couldn’t look away) saying gun free zones are the way to prevent all these shootings. His logic? He showed a sign from a gun show that said you can’t enter if you have a loaded weapon.

So he said that shows even conservatives know gun free zones are safer.

So I guess gun shows are full of helpless people, like schools, or people w/o access to protection (like the thousands of guns, and presumably guards) at gun shows.

Or maybe he’s hoping by pointing this out someone will decide a gun show w/b a good place for a nut case to attack people.


11 posted on 09/17/2013 5:09:57 PM PDT by Breyean
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And 3000 people........


12 posted on 09/17/2013 5:13:35 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Regulation 90-114 regulates firearms on military bases and was implemented by President Clinton in 1993.”

The other threads are wrong.

CC


13 posted on 09/17/2013 5:15:21 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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To: ClearCase_guy
Other threads have said that this was actually George HW Bush policy.

It was both. AR 190-14 (link) (pdf) was issued under Clinton in March 1993. But, it was implementing DoD directive 5210.16 (link) (pdf), which was issued under Bush in February 1992.

14 posted on 09/17/2013 5:15:23 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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15 posted on 09/17/2013 5:24:26 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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It was George HW Bush that did away with the time honored tradition of bring back war trophy guns.

George HW Bush was just another “progressive”.


16 posted on 09/17/2013 5:25:13 PM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
... jaw drops... I didn’t know. I just assumed that it was out of some vague PC drift of the command mentality. I didn’t know it was a specific order. It sounds like it was an Executive Order from Clinton as CIC.

I was in the Army Combat Engineers from 1966 to 1968. Stateside, we carried arms only when training. Otherwise, our weapons were stored in the company arms room. In Vietnam, while stationed at a large base attached to the 4th division, we stored arms in the company arms room at the end of the day. We carried them when off base. When quartered in a small field camp, we kept our arms by our cots as we slept. While in the camp, they stayed by our cot. Only when we left camp, did we carry them. Bill Clinton had nothing to do with policy in the 1960's.

17 posted on 09/17/2013 5:36:48 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

That’s 5210-56


18 posted on 09/17/2013 5:38:46 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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I don’t believe that either Bush president would worry about meeting armed American servicemen. It is Democrats who fear them.


19 posted on 09/17/2013 5:39:19 PM PDT by maica (Welcome to post-rational America.)
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20 posted on 09/17/2013 5:40:59 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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