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New Jersey Gov. Christie vetoes .50-caliber rifle ban.
Fox News ^ | 8/17/2013 | AP

Posted on 08/17/2013 4:44:59 AM PDT by carriage_hill

TRENTON, N.J. – Republican Gov. Chris Christie on Friday vetoed a ban on .50-caliber rifles that was vigorously opposed by firearms rights advocates and gutted a proposal overhauling the state’s gun permit law.

Christie said the permit changes adopted by lawmakers were impractical because they rely on technology that hasn’t been developed.

“None of the technology necessary for this system exists. … the smartcard called for by this bill cannot be implemented now or any time in the foreseeable future,” Christie said in his conditional veto message.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; US: New Jersey; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 50cal; banglist; barrett; chrischristie; guncontrol; newjersey; nj; randsconcerntrolls; secondamendment; waronterror
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Stopped clock; blind pig.

Once in a while, even "Kripsy Kreme" gets one right.

1 posted on 08/17/2013 4:45:00 AM PDT by carriage_hill
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To: carriage_hill

Doesn’t matter. He signed the other ten and in doing so shot himself in the foot as far as 2016 is concerned. Unless he’s running on the dem ticket.


2 posted on 08/17/2013 4:46:51 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: mylife; MaxMax; 50cal Smokepole; Randy Larsen; lolhelp; waterhill; Clint N. Suhks; Envisioning; ...

Pinging “Gun Talk” List...

Is there a “Bang List” to Ping?


3 posted on 08/17/2013 4:46:57 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Sirius Lee

These 10 bills:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/08/christie_signs_a_number_gun_bills_but_leaves_controversial_measures_on_his_desk.html


4 posted on 08/17/2013 4:50:14 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Sirius Lee

GOPe: Marco-Christie
or
lib-dem: Clintoon-Christie


5 posted on 08/17/2013 4:54:24 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

Oooooh, he must be a staunch 2A guy.

NOT.

The chubby kid brings a new toy to show kids on the playground hoping for new friends. Too bad, Lumpy, you’re still a jerk.


6 posted on 08/17/2013 4:54:50 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (You hear it here first.)
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To: carriage_hill

He may as well as signed it; he signed every other one put on his desk.

I will not vote for this POS no matter what. I have held my nose and voted before, and probably will again at some point, but NEVER for this POS lardass.

He finds more faults with fellow republicans than obama!


7 posted on 08/17/2013 5:01:32 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks carriage_hill.


8 posted on 08/17/2013 5:03:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I moved from NJ 25yrs ago to PA; wouldn’t vote for this POS either.


9 posted on 08/17/2013 5:17:08 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill
Earlier Friday, gun control advocate Bryan Miller took a disabled .50-caliber sniper rifle to the Statehouse to demonstrate its destructive capacity.

MmmmKay. I bet that went well.

10 posted on 08/17/2013 5:29:50 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: VeniVidiVici

Did he also demonstrate its 5k+ price tag? Did they reference ANY crime that’s been committed with a .50? How I loathe these people.


11 posted on 08/17/2013 5:40:35 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: carriage_hill
Oh, now he's trying to walkback his reputation as a gun-grabber with his eye on 2016.

No sale!

12 posted on 08/17/2013 5:41:01 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: carriage_hill

Sorry, no, he WOULD have signed this bill...if the technology existed. Though, I’m surprised he let that get in the way of his other anti-2nd push.


13 posted on 08/17/2013 5:42:05 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of all problems.)
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To: VeniVidiVici

What an a-hole and schmuck:

“These are military weapons designed and manufactured to destroy material targets such as chemical plants, refineries, chemical and rail tanks and passenger aircraft, targets that abound in New Jersey,” he said. “A potential attack with a .50-caliber weapon could have a catastrophic environmental impact in the Garden State.”

Neither my Barrett nor Beowulf has destroyed any of the above.


14 posted on 08/17/2013 5:47:14 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Timber Rattler

LOL. KK “leaning@ to the Right. Rino Fail !!!


15 posted on 08/17/2013 5:57:42 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal! ,)
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To: carriage_hill

“Once in a while, even “Kripsy Kreme” gets one right. “

He’s running for president and has to do this or he loses the R party. Look at his actual record when he wasn’t pretending to be conservative. He is one of the most anti-gun governors in the US.


16 posted on 08/17/2013 6:04:13 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ModelBreaker
They can have my .50 when they pry it from my....
17 posted on 08/17/2013 6:09:16 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: carriage_hill

Anyone tried firing a rifle in NJ recently? This is the state which for as long ago as 50 years banned the use of rifles for deer hunting, limiting it to the use of shotguns with no bigger shot than 00 and no rifle slugs either. I gather there has been some loosening of those laws but that is what was in effect when I hunted there. Lastly, for “varmit” season, one needed a special rifle permit to hunt and at that time they were not issuing new ones and grandfathered in those who had them. I think that may have changed for the better too as this is from my experience. Anyway, firing any caliber with a range of a mile or more is dangerous to the population now stacked up one on top of another IMO and why I left long ago. The main issue addressed by Christie’s veto was more significant and I am happy he did it.


18 posted on 08/17/2013 6:19:42 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"Oooooh, he must be a staunch 2A guy."

Betcha he's a "lifetime NRA member," like Romney, and maybe even goes to buy a, "huntin' license," like Kerry, in the lead up to 2016.

19 posted on 08/17/2013 6:25:21 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: carriage_hill

He signed ten anti Second Amendment bills and he is still a fat assed socialist pig.


20 posted on 08/17/2013 6:26:12 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: carriage_hill

http://www.nraila.org/legislation/state-legislation/2013/8/new-jersey-governor-christie-vetoes-major-anti-gun-bills-and-gun-owners-secure-a-significant-and-rare-victory.aspx


21 posted on 08/17/2013 6:33:30 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: carriage_hill
"These 10 bills:"

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/08/christie_signs_a_number_gun_bills_but_leaves_controversial_measures_on_his_desk.html

Of the 10 bills he signed, 6 are neutral, 2 are actually good for gun owners in New Jersey, and 2 are arguably bad, but they're bad on a Federal level.

Of the 3 he vetoed yesterday, ALL were bad for gun owners. He surprised me with a flat-out veto of the Barrett .50 BMG ban. There are only a handful of owners in the state -- in part because there aren't many ranges that are long enough and that have enough of a backstop to allow them. There wasn't any real downside for him to sign the ban, and he vetoed it anyway.

22 posted on 08/17/2013 6:36:38 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: carriage_hill

What’s next? Ban 20mm cannons?


23 posted on 08/17/2013 6:45:44 AM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Bingo!


24 posted on 08/17/2013 7:03:06 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

Showtime! Who buys .50 caliber? Only a few rabid enthusiasts. This is strictly for show in attempt to fool Conservatives for their vote.


25 posted on 08/17/2013 7:10:21 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Sirius Lee
Unless he’s running on the dem ticket.

He will be running on the DemLite ticket.


26 posted on 08/17/2013 7:17:05 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: carriage_hill

AFAIK, just the banglist keyword which is already there.


27 posted on 08/17/2013 7:40:22 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: rockinqsranch

Very few of us have them, but they’re definitely on the list to be banned, in the upcoming months/years, as soon as the dem cause an event to happen involving one. And they will.


28 posted on 08/17/2013 7:41:02 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

He would go along, if only the tech were right.


29 posted on 08/17/2013 7:41:20 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

“...Lumpy...”

LOLMAO! Haven’t heard that name in years. Thanks for the laugh!


30 posted on 08/17/2013 7:42:48 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

But it could when we finally rise up after all peaceful solutions fail. Krispy has reason to fear.


31 posted on 08/17/2013 7:44:01 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

“Fat Bastard!”


32 posted on 08/17/2013 7:44:34 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

Agree, they will.


33 posted on 08/17/2013 7:45:13 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Cheerio

Flip-side of the same coin. GOPe is just the dem’s “away jersey”, IMO.


34 posted on 08/17/2013 7:45:51 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: SkyDancer

Way, way beyond my pay-grade. I can dream.


35 posted on 08/17/2013 7:47:17 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jMptQ_YfvzE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DjMptQ_YfvzE

CONFISCATION! NJ Senators CAUGHT Mocking Gun Owners Committee Meeting May 9, 2013


36 posted on 08/17/2013 8:03:32 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: carriage_hill

You said it for me Ping.

But RINO’s never really change their spots.


37 posted on 08/17/2013 8:10:46 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (Why is the Democratic National Socialist Committee waging a War on liberty?)
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To: smokingfrog

Hot mics are wonderful for revealing the truth!


38 posted on 08/17/2013 8:11:44 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: BerserkPatriot

Nor their smell.


39 posted on 08/17/2013 8:13:32 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

So its not like he’s really agains’t gun control. Just wants to make sure it can be implemented properly.


40 posted on 08/17/2013 8:53:25 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: carriage_hill
FReeper pistolshot used to maintain a FR Gun Club ping list, but I think he is long gone. I don't know if anyone else has a banglist - pinglist, but it would be a good idea. marktwain posts a lot of 2A articles, but I don't know if he'd be interested or not.

DaveLoneRanger also has an Armed Citizen list on his profile page

41 posted on 08/17/2013 9:13:15 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Puppage

>>Did he also demonstrate its 5k+ price tag? Did they reference ANY crime that’s been committed with a .50?<<

“Tellingly, the Legislature points to no instance of this class of firearms being used by even a single criminal in New Jersey,” Christie said.

California has a complete ban on .50-caliber rifles, Connecticut bans specific models and Maryland has some restrictions.

Earlier Friday, gun control advocate Bryan Miller took a disabled .50-caliber sniper rifle to the Statehouse to demonstrate its destructive capacity.

“These are military weapons designed and manufactured to destroy material targets such as chemical plants, refineries, chemical and rail tanks and passenger aircraft, targets that abound in New Jersey,” he said. “A potential attack with a .50-caliber weapon could have a catastrophic environmental impact in the Garden State.”


42 posted on 08/17/2013 9:29:40 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: B4Ranch

My understanding is California has a ban on .50 BMG, but the .510 DTC Europ with the same bullet and powder capacity is permitted.

In other words, if you have 5000$ to spend on a rifle, and another 7$ to spend on each round, you can still do nearly everything that the .50 BMG rifle can do.

I will have to check my local gun store.

Standard .30/06 ammunition in heavier weights (say 174 grain as used on WWI) will travel more than 2 miles. US converted to 150 grain rounds before WWII because the rounds would overfly the range limits on most machine gun ranges. They had attempted to convert to the shorter range lighter weight version before, but too many officers with experience in long range machine gun fire in WWI objected.


43 posted on 08/17/2013 10:13:25 AM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: carriage_hill

Good that he came around, but he showed just how far we can trust him..


44 posted on 08/17/2013 10:16:20 AM PDT by In Another Time... (RIP: 4th Amendment, United States Constitution)
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To: B4Ranch

Liberal logic a work.....never ceases to amaze me.


45 posted on 08/17/2013 11:31:17 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: carriage_hill
Christie said the permit changes adopted by lawmakers were impractical because they rely on technology that hasn’t been developed.

This is his reason, rather than the law being morally reprehensible and completely illogical based on human nature.

46 posted on 08/17/2013 11:58:10 AM PDT by wastedyears (One nation, under wub. Saints Row IV)
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To: carriage_hill

It is election season in NJ now and he has the next race for president to look forward to so I’m not surprised at his decision


47 posted on 08/17/2013 12:08:00 PM PDT by Nextrush (A BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN ARE AT THE TOP OF MY LIST)
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To: donmeaker

Look up “Part 1 Introduction - Rex Reviews” on www.YouTube.com It will answer most of your questions.


48 posted on 08/17/2013 12:12:59 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: carriage_hill

he doesn’t know if he is coming or going, does he?


49 posted on 08/17/2013 12:42:36 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: carriage_hill

He wants obama to get into his belly!


50 posted on 08/17/2013 1:11:03 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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