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Attorney General Eric Holder condemns ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws
WP ^ | Tuesday, July 16 2013 | Manuel Roig-Franzia

Posted on 07/16/2013 2:07:27 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron

ORLANDO — Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. strongly condemned so-called “Stand Your Ground” laws here Tuesday in a speech to the NAACP that addressed the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the killing of Trayvon Martin.

The laws “sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods,” Holder said, by “allowing – and perhaps encouraging – violent situations to escalate in public.”

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The motives behind this case are becoming obvious...the race angle was simply icing on the cake.
1 posted on 07/16/2013 2:07:27 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Back-door Gun Control, legislated from the bench.

When you can’t win in the ballot box.


2 posted on 07/16/2013 2:09:05 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Pandering to the “Racial Bias” group


3 posted on 07/16/2013 2:09:08 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I am so confused now. Zimmerman didn’t use a “stand your ground” defense. Didn’t it not even apply, seeing as the shooting was self-defense?

What is Holder (and everyone else for that matter) smoking?


4 posted on 07/16/2013 2:09:08 PM PDT by LittleSpotBlog
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I used to think that talk of civil war 2 was crazy...now not so sure with the Feds sounding more like a foreign power every day.


5 posted on 07/16/2013 2:09:08 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

If Holder is against it, I am for it.


6 posted on 07/16/2013 2:09:35 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Eric Holder considers violent crime to be an acceptable career path for “his people,” and armed victims to be an OSHA violation, especially if they are white or half-white.


7 posted on 07/16/2013 2:09:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Radical race-pimps want to disarm us — not going to happen.
People know that road leads to Auschwitz.


8 posted on 07/16/2013 2:10:09 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Holder, your boss, and certainly your mouth, is “sowing dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods” and “allowing – and perhaps encouraging – violent situations to escalate in public.”


9 posted on 07/16/2013 2:11:18 PM PDT by Waryone (Anyone who advocates excusing Rubio's lying, traitorous behavior is GOPe.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I thought the stand you ground law was never part of the case.


10 posted on 07/16/2013 2:11:32 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I have a simple rule. Assault me and I will kill you.


11 posted on 07/16/2013 2:12:19 PM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: Noumenon

Fine rule you have there, sir.


12 posted on 07/16/2013 2:12:56 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Holder is unfit for his position. His statements legitimate protestors' violent acts which are in fact racially motivated.
13 posted on 07/16/2013 2:13:38 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I suggest Eric the Red take the same route as Stevie Wonder and refuse to do any business in states with such laws.


14 posted on 07/16/2013 2:14:10 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Eric Holder considers violent crime to be an acceptable career path for “his people,” and armed victims to be an OSHA violation, especially if they are white or half-white.

Bam!!!

A most excellent comment, Sir!

15 posted on 07/16/2013 2:14:21 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

One of many a$$holes in the Obama administration with blood on his hands who needs to be dealt with when we have a legitimate group of people in charge.


16 posted on 07/16/2013 2:15:23 PM PDT by patriotsblood
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To: Las Vegas Ron
The laws My filthy racist Anti-American mouth “sows dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods,” Holder said, by “allowing – and perhaps encouraging – violent situations to escalate in public.”
17 posted on 07/16/2013 2:15:36 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Lurker; Noumenon
Fine rule you have there, sir.

X2

18 posted on 07/16/2013 2:16:07 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rats vs. GOPe = Same train, different speed.)
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To: patriotsblood

NOTHING is going to happen to these assclowns. Not one damn thing.

*SPIT*


19 posted on 07/16/2013 2:16:18 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Someone should inform Holder that predecessors to Stand your Ground laws were the basis for successful self-defense against the KKK.


20 posted on 07/16/2013 2:17:03 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. strongly condemned so-called “Stand Your Ground” laws here Tuesday in a speech to the NAACP that addressed the acquittal of George Zimmerman in the killing of Trayvon Martin. The laws “sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods,” Holder said, by “allowing – and perhaps encouraging – violent situations to escalate in public.”

If zero and Holder manage to make self-defense a criminal act in America, they will have succeeded in turning us into Britain. Currently, in Britain, it is a felony for anyone to defend themselves or their property against criminals trying to rob or injure them.

If zero wants to stake his future on this looney tactic, let him. Holder is just a racist mouthpiece pandering to the oldest organized group of racists in the country.

21 posted on 07/16/2013 2:17:04 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for the American politburo!!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

his job is the law , plain and simple, to defend the law, plain and simple.

DOMA he ignores,
racists he ignores as it’s “my people”
illegals he ignores
drugs he ignores

no wonder the communists, and socialist love this guy after he pushes his homosexual agenda and ignores drugs and racism.


22 posted on 07/16/2013 2:17:44 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: Noumenon
I have a simple rule. Assault me and I will kill you.

Indeed. You keep you whup-ass, I keep my bullets, and everybody goes home. It ain't rocket surgery.

23 posted on 07/16/2013 2:17:55 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Noumenon

Amen. A concept so simple that even Rachel Jeantel could understand it.

Well...maybe.


24 posted on 07/16/2013 2:18:01 PM PDT by MarineDad (Wherever mosques and JDAM's meet, civilization benefits greatly!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Do I care what a filthy felon so-called “thinks?”


25 posted on 07/16/2013 2:19:12 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: Las Vegas Ron

That’s funny because the “Stand your ground” law wasn’t even a factor in the Zimmerman case. It was a cut-and-dried case of simple self-defense.

If anything, it could have been called “lay your ground” since George Z was on his back taking punches from St. Trayvon when he defended himself.


26 posted on 07/16/2013 2:19:13 PM PDT by meyer (What would John Hancock do?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

He needs to explain: What exactly is to be gained in society by allowing the growing number of barbarians to terrify decent citizens?


27 posted on 07/16/2013 2:19:19 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

STFU you black panther, sds pos communist.


28 posted on 07/16/2013 2:19:51 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Why should we have “Flee from black aggressors” laws?

Why should we be forced into running away or doing anything at all when confronted with a bully?


29 posted on 07/16/2013 2:20:27 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: DustyMoment

War will come before we allow that bullsh!t to happen.

LLS


30 posted on 07/16/2013 2:21:31 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Proud2BeRight
I thought the stand you ground law was never part of the case.

It wasn't. But truth and facts make no difference to our racist Attorney General and the media. I've noticed that about 99% of what I've read about this case centers on that law even though it wasn't part of Zimmerman's defense, so it's easy to see it's a planned anti-gun campaign being run from behind the scenes.

31 posted on 07/16/2013 2:21:34 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Pound sand, Eric. Whitey is fed up with your race crap.

And whitey is armed.


32 posted on 07/16/2013 2:21:49 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: LittleSpotBlog; Proud2BeRight
I thought the stand you ground law was never part of the case.

"It's not the facts of the case, it's the seriousness of the charge..."

It was ALWAYS about getting Gun Control legislated from the bench. SYG and the Castle Doctrine are under the gun...

33 posted on 07/16/2013 2:22:07 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Ray76

“Holder is unfit for his position. His statements legitimate protestors’ violent acts which are in fact racially motivated.”

Holder reflects the views of the President and the Democrats in the Senate. His nomination to be Attorney General was approved by the Senate 75 to 21. The following Republicans voted to confirm Holder:

Alexander (R-TN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Chambliss (R-Ga)
Collins (R-ME)
Corker (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Sessions (R-AL)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Voinovich (R-OH)

If you believe a Republican Senate is the key to stopping the downward spiral of the country, think again.


34 posted on 07/16/2013 2:22:51 PM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: DustyMoment

“We” as in WE THE PEOPLE.


35 posted on 07/16/2013 2:23:28 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

IOWs urban Trayvons have a right to play Knockout King on any fay cracka they catch alone at night.


36 posted on 07/16/2013 2:23:30 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Jessie, Al and Eric. The Just-Us Brothas


37 posted on 07/16/2013 2:23:30 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Yes, Eric the Great. Let’s get rid of protecting your property. Let’s make it illegal. I will agree. Let’s make self defense illegal, too.

RIGHT AFTER ALL THREATS TO PROPERTY, LIFE AND LIMB CEASE.

Let’s all live in peace and harmony, with coca cola and granola. No one robs anyone, no one attacks. At that point, let’s take the self defense laws off the books. It’s ok, sir; we’ll wait.


38 posted on 07/16/2013 2:23:59 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Las Vegas Ron
The laws “sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods,” Holder said, by “allowing – and perhaps encouraging – violent situations to escalate in public.”

FACT - Trayvon, not Zimmerman, was the one who escalated the situation to the level of a violent confrontation. Got that? The guy who DIDN'T have the gun escalated things violently. So the gun, and the Stand Your Ground Law, were irrelevant.

So much for another one of the Obama Gang's loopy theories.


39 posted on 07/16/2013 2:24:11 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Reminds me of Big Tim Sullivan.

His constituents - the typical Tammany crowd of gangsters and thugs - found the growing frequency with which they encountered armed victims to be unacceptable, so they convinced him to push through New York's Sullivan Act.

Which disarmed said victims, and made the streets much safer for said gangsters and thugs.

40 posted on 07/16/2013 2:24:14 PM PDT by jdege
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Attorney General Eric Holder condemns ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws

Just like he condemns the constitution and freedom!

Holder needs to be "fast and furious" on this one!
41 posted on 07/16/2013 2:24:37 PM PDT by ForAmerica (Texas Conservative Christian *born again believer in Jesus Christ* Black Man!)
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To: Proud2BeRight

It wasn’t. Holder is either being disingenuous, or ignorant, or both.


42 posted on 07/16/2013 2:24:58 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron; marktwain

“Stand Your Ground” is only a part of what this is all about:

The leftists do NOT want you to have the right to defend your self, your family, and your property.


43 posted on 07/16/2013 2:25:12 PM PDT by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I condemn Eric the Red


44 posted on 07/16/2013 2:25:16 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: LittleSpotBlog
I think Holder is trying to do a little rhetorical sleight of hand here. He can't file Civil Rights charges, or they would surely get thrown out, or even worse, the would lose that trial as well; so he's blaming the Zimmerman verdict on something that isn't accurate.

This way, he can condemn the verdict, but sort of hide behind the law.

And in typical fashion, the force-fed audience will eat it up.

45 posted on 07/16/2013 2:25:55 PM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: LittleSpotBlog

Ever hear the saying “Never let a good crisis go to waste”?

This is the Obama administration using a tragedy to push an agenda that has been rejected at the ballot box. It’s also an end-run around the 10th amendment. They see a wonderful opportunity to take completely unrelated issue and force through what they see as the perfect solution while emotions run high.

Those in Washington do not want an armed citizenry, nor do they want “ordinary” people being able to use deadly force to defend themselves. They envision a utopian society where only the government has weapons which changes us from citizens to subjects. You will kindly recall the quote from an Obama staffer after the 2008 election where she said “Obama is ready to rule”. It was dismissed as a poor choice of words, but the connect-the-dots are striking. Presidents GOVERN. Kings “RULE”. Kings also make damned sure that their SUBJECTS must OBEY them. Citizens employ a leader to represent them. Kings rule over obedient subjects. Get it?

Mr. Obama, supposedly a constitutional law professor, is well aware that in this country, the government derives its just powers from the CONSENT OF THE GOVERNED. Obama clearly doesn’t care for this arrangement. The very concept that the consent for him to be in the White House could be taken away as a brutal affront to his “rule”.

In a sovereign / subject scenario, the government gets its powers from God himself, and the subjects deal with it. There is no protest or attempt at change because it;s not allowed for. The second amendment keeps bad guys **AND** the government in check. It was brilliantly designed along with the other checks and balances that we hold dear, and that Obama clearly despises. He chastises the Supreme Court. He appoints “czars”. If he doesn’t get what he wants from congress, he puts it in place by executive order. This “constitutional law professor” absolutely hates the concept of separation of powers. He sees the judiciary as a group who should do his bidding, and congress and a bunch that should be lapdogs, pencil-whipping through what King Barack wants.

And it will continue to get worse before it gets any better. Ready for president Hillary???


46 posted on 07/16/2013 2:26:00 PM PDT by VideoPaul
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

WITHHOLDER says he can’t stand STAND OUR GROUND LAWS but insisted he saw nothing wrong with RACIAL PROFILING OF POLITICAL OPPONENTS. Lying and withholding information from congress to dodge subpoenas. Not prosecuting any black person period. And paying back whitie for keeping his people down.


47 posted on 07/16/2013 2:27:00 PM PDT by spawn44 (MOO)
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To: BenLurkin
You got to look at it from his point of view. He is not and will not be one of the ones terrorized. The barbarians will share their loot from those terrorized with him.

Courtesy of the voters, America became a banana republic November 6, 2912. Governor bestowed Banana Republic status to the State of Florida in 2013 with the George Zimmerman attempted lynching.

If you look for anything good and decent to come out of the Obama regime, you are only deluding yourself.

48 posted on 07/16/2013 2:27:55 PM PDT by sport
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To: DonaldC

I used to think that talk of civil war 2 was crazy...now not so sure with the Feds sounding more like a foreign power every day.


Don,

I’ve been seeing this build up for nearly thirty-five years. It’s been a slow incremental tension building exercise all of that time. Today I think that the ones pushing this are confident that they can light the fuse for all out conflict.

The interesting thing is that if they just stopped pushing the Meme that within two years all would be calm again. I saw that happen in the Late 1970’s when the same thing was occurring and the Race-riots were a very fresh memory.


49 posted on 07/16/2013 2:28:07 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Proud2BeRight

Stand Your Ground law was not part of the case. His defense was self defense.

They are intentionally misrepresenting(LYING!) that the case was about Stand Your Ground because that is the law they want to attack.

Never let a crisis go to waste.


50 posted on 07/16/2013 2:28:17 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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