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Judge Nelson throws OUT 'child abuse' felony murder charge
June 11, 2013 | CivilWarBrewing

Posted on 07/11/2013 10:08:00 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing

Judge Nelson has ruled AGAINST the prosecution for their attempt at a jury instruction for felony manslaughter based on 'child abuse'.


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Good news.
1 posted on 07/11/2013 10:08:00 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

One common sense action in this circus.


2 posted on 07/11/2013 10:08:53 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

http://freerepublic.com/focus/news/3041574/posts?page=1005

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3 posted on 07/11/2013 10:09:25 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

As she ought to have. It was preposterous.


4 posted on 07/11/2013 10:09:52 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Good, that was ridiculous!


5 posted on 07/11/2013 10:09:55 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

She pretending she’s fair??


6 posted on 07/11/2013 10:10:01 AM PDT by MissTed ( Private Tagline - Do Not Read!)
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To: Sender

Only smart thing she’s done. I wonder if she’ll change her mind?


7 posted on 07/11/2013 10:10:17 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

A leap too far for even this crazy-ass judge


8 posted on 07/11/2013 10:10:30 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: CivilWarBrewing

BUT she told the jury they could rule on a lesser charge of manslaughter, which he is not charged with. He should be a free man.


9 posted on 07/11/2013 10:10:56 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker (Hard to paddle against the flow of sewage coming out of the White House.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Judge Nelson throws OUT 'child abuse' felony murder charge

Judge Nelson attempts to save her career.

10 posted on 07/11/2013 10:11:47 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Because the ridiculous “child abuse” charge was the underlying charge.


11 posted on 07/11/2013 10:11:55 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Unindicted Co-conspirators: The Mainstream Media)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

A real judge should probably have sanctioned the idiot for trying to file it in the first place.


12 posted on 07/11/2013 10:12:38 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Good. I was thinking the idea was straight from the DOJ. It would have been automatic grounds for appeal, I think, since the defense never had time to prepare for that charge.


13 posted on 07/11/2013 10:12:57 AM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Good news! I feared she would let it stand.

The prosecution is desperately pulling any rabbit out of the hat they can to get any kind of conviction against Zimmerman. Even if the rabbit is dead and decayed nad has absolutely no life in it.

Zimmerman was attacked by Martin. After all of the testimony, that is absoluteely clear. Zimmerman violoated NO law, and yet Martin sucker punched Zimmerman in the nose, breaking his nose and knocking him to the ground. Martin then climbed on top of the prostrate Zimmerman and was beating him, knocking his head into the ground and cement. Zimmerman's screams for help are hysteric, panicked, and clearly a person fearing for his life.

Zimmerman finally shot in defense of his life. Killing a 17 year old who is in the act of beating you senseless and possibly beating you to death is not child abuse.

The very idea would make reason stare, and would be just another affront to, and travesty of justice. At least the Judge recognized this and rejected it.

Now, I pray, with all my heart, that the Jury comes back with an innocent on all counts verdict, and that they do so very, very quickly. I also pray that the Standford and other local...and heck, nation-wide police and Sheriff's departments are prepared to put down whatever rioting results from such a verdict.

The race baiters, politicians, and liberal media people who are stirring up and inciting this travesty need to be cut down to size...cut off at the knees. They need to be themselves prosecuted for their incitement to violence and conspiracy to subvert the law.


ThE TRUTH ABOUT LIBERAL ILLOGIC

14 posted on 07/11/2013 10:13:29 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: DonkeyBonker
BUT she told the jury they could rule on a lesser charge of manslaughter, which he is not charged with.

Don't know if it's true, but I read somewhere that in Florida, manslaughter is automatically a lesser included charge for any murder charge.

15 posted on 07/11/2013 10:13:40 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: NonValueAdded

I thought Ozzie Osborne was a brunette.

He looks good with a blonde wig and actually sounds coherent. Knew that law degree he got from the back of a match book would one day come in handy.


16 posted on 07/11/2013 10:14:11 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Can she be impeached? Or recalled since she was actually elected? If neither, when is she up for reelection?


17 posted on 07/11/2013 10:14:48 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

It was a “make weight” request by the prosecution — intended to force the defense to fight that instead of the manslaughter charge (which is the one the prosecution really wanted)


18 posted on 07/11/2013 10:15:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Don’t go to Florida, that is the message from all this publicity. You have no rights to defend against crime in Florida. They will use every ridiculous antiquated law even “stalking” because you decided to go there. It’s a micro picture of our nation. Staycations are the only way to be safe.


19 posted on 07/11/2013 10:16:31 AM PDT by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Wiser now

There is a growing flash point now on whichever side wins or loses. If Zimmerman is convicted after all of this nonsense, he will be viewed as a political prisoner. If acquitted the usual suspects, abetted by the MSM will try to incite violence. Let’s hope the jurors have the courage to acquit.


20 posted on 07/11/2013 10:16:51 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing
How about littering...
and creating a nuisance.
21 posted on 07/11/2013 10:17:01 AM PDT by dmcnash (Back off! I'm a Scientist.)
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To: Wiser now

Indeed. Team Eric WithHolder is very upset about this. He’s been working on this for months, gathering case law like crazy!


22 posted on 07/11/2013 10:17:14 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Corey and DOJ probably told her they will win the appeal if it was allowed


23 posted on 07/11/2013 10:18:32 AM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: DonkeyBonker

“BUT she told the jury they could rule on a lesser charge of manslaughter”

That appears to be required by state law, and was expected.


24 posted on 07/11/2013 10:18:44 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I think she looks like Jeff Daniels in “Dumb and
Dumber.”


25 posted on 07/11/2013 10:19:32 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Wow, to be honest, I’m stunned she threw this out, what is she up to? There’s got to be something more sinister coming down the pike. I don’t trust her. She’s an eric holder puppet and even when this is over, it’s not going to be over for a long time.


26 posted on 07/11/2013 10:19:49 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

So glad to see there are still people (like us) who care about a modicum of integrity in our court system.


27 posted on 07/11/2013 10:19:53 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy)
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To: swamprebel

I just fired off an email to Rick Scott to that nature. Jump on people, flood him with disapproval!


28 posted on 07/11/2013 10:19:55 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Toseed that grasped-at straw into the shredder!

Way to go!


29 posted on 07/11/2013 10:20:04 AM PDT by lightman (Prosecute the heresies; pity the heretics.)
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To: Wiser now
Then, a lot of excluded evidence that didn't fit the BHO/Holder/DOJ narrative would have to be allowed in as part of the defense.

TM was no 12-year-old kid at the time of his last poorly chosen deed.

30 posted on 07/11/2013 10:20:44 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Jeff Head

Agree with you. A not-guilty on all counts should be scratched together as soon as possible and let Mr. Zimmerman try to get on with his life. I’m cynical though, and believe the jury will somehow obligated to apply a lesser charge.


31 posted on 07/11/2013 10:21:33 AM PDT by Made In The USA (I'm not yelling, just... just talking enthusiastically..)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

If GZ is found not guilty can the state recharge this?


32 posted on 07/11/2013 10:22:00 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: CivilWarBrewing

What were they thinking? First you find him guilty, THEN file the charges.


33 posted on 07/11/2013 10:23:19 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Maybe she could include littering and hazardous waste as included charges. . . maybe the jury can convict him of those heinous crimes.

After all, Zimmerman did leave Taydmark's body and blood on the ground.

34 posted on 07/11/2013 10:23:33 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Even a blind squirrel is right twice a day.


35 posted on 07/11/2013 10:23:36 AM PDT by Veggie Todd (What difference does it make?)
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To: Raycpa

Double jeopardy.


36 posted on 07/11/2013 10:23:38 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Here’s hoping the jury saw this new “charge” for the load of BS it was. Wouldn’t it be nice if the prosecution sunk their own ship in trying to keep it from getting sunk.


37 posted on 07/11/2013 10:24:07 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be purchased and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: Molon Labbie

Indeed. A blend of Jeff Daniels and Ozzy Osbourne.


38 posted on 07/11/2013 10:24:16 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I’ve lived in Fla. for 44 years.............and it ain’t california. Just like Nevada isn’t california. right O.J.?


39 posted on 07/11/2013 10:24:34 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: Made In The USA

Dream Scenario:

“We, the jury, find the defendant not guilty on all counts. We also find that the prosecution’s lead attorney is creepy and that the judge is a dead ringer for Chris Farley.”


40 posted on 07/11/2013 10:24:53 AM PDT by kevkrom (It's not "immigration reform", it's an "amnesty bill". Take back the language!)
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To: Raycpa

I would say that’s double jeopardy and not allowed under the constitution. But with this bunch anything is possible.


41 posted on 07/11/2013 10:25:05 AM PDT by conservativebabe
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To: Calvin Locke

other than the medical report, was there any non-heresay evidence as to age?

This would be so reversable as to question this judges right to a legal degree.


42 posted on 07/11/2013 10:25:39 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sender

It would have been too blatant even for the libs..Race Hustler Inc will have to hold out hope for a hung jury.


43 posted on 07/11/2013 10:26:06 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: swamprebel

You aren’t safe in Florida; your wife isn’t safe in Florida; your children aren’t safe in Florida. Get the message?


44 posted on 07/11/2013 10:26:10 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Gods what a circus...

When dismissed to deliberate, the jury should just stand up... then sit right back down again. George should be acquitted and the this judge should be impeached.

Further, the DA needs to be disbarred and jailed under USC Title 18 Sec 241; Conspiracy to deprive civil Rights under color of law.


45 posted on 07/11/2013 10:26:23 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: swamprebel
Don’t go to Florida, that is the message from all this publicity. You have no rights to defend against crime in Florida.

Well, if you do go to Florida and have a need to defend yourself, you risk spending the rest of your life in jail.

The governemnt in Florida want to kill or destroy those who defend themselves.

46 posted on 07/11/2013 10:28:02 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Dead Corpse

George Zimmerman will have a lot of options of which civil lawsuits he will be filing after his acquittal. Angela Corey should definitely be one.


47 posted on 07/11/2013 10:28:35 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: swamprebel

the whole nation must make self defense stronger.

juries SHOULD be told what the defendant is facing.

prosecutors MUST be required to NOTICE IN ADVANCE these lesser included charges. No lets see how it goes.


48 posted on 07/11/2013 10:28:37 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: txhurl
Double jeopardy.

Even if its a different crime?

49 posted on 07/11/2013 10:29:12 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Judge Nelson has ruled AGAINST the prosecution for their attempt at a jury instruction for felony manslaughter based on 'child abuse'.

Now I feel real bad about posting these pics yesterday:


50 posted on 07/11/2013 10:29:17 AM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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