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St. Joe's "dead" patient awoke as docs prepared to remove organs
© 2013 Syracuse Media Group All rights reserved ^ | July 07, 2013 at 2:43 AM | By John O'Brien and James T. Mulder

Posted on 07/07/2013 7:02:42 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

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To: Behind Liberal Lines
For reference

the mean plasma elimination half-life of alprazolam is about 11.2 hours (range: 6.3 to 26.9 hours) in healthy adults

5 half-lives is about 2.5 days

The Neurologist on the case needs to go back to Residency

41 posted on 07/07/2013 8:58:09 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Theodore R.

Do you have a living will? Ever been forced or coerced into filling one out at a hospital?


42 posted on 07/07/2013 9:00:58 AM PDT by EBH (Democracy is the language of dictators.)
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To: HangnJudge

“The Neurologist on the case needs to go back to Residency “

I would have to agree with you. At the very least this person should spend a lot of time reviewing the criteria for brain death, especially reviewing all of the things that can falsely affect the assessment.


43 posted on 07/07/2013 9:13:23 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
the woman in question...later committed suicide

Then...did they harvest her organs?

44 posted on 07/07/2013 9:15:44 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

—especially reviewing all of the things
—that can falsely affect the assessment.

Correct

First establish the absence of confounding factors
gain, for reference...

http://www.aan.com/pressroom/home/getdigitalasset/8470


45 posted on 07/07/2013 9:26:24 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Veto!
Our health care costs more than any other country’s by a long shot... The quality of our health care is very low compared with most other countries. EVen some third world countries rank higher...

Yeah, that's socialist propaganda used to sell "single payer"

The reason it costs more, is because of "cost shifting" where hospitals overcharge insured and cash paying patients in order to provide "free" healthcare to the dregs and medical welfare patients. That practice should be banned.

Regarding life expectancy, if you don't get killed by a gang-banger or car wreck, the US life expectancy is quite high.

In the case of infant mortality, US providers do all they can to save the lives of premies, and counts each live births as a human life. Socialist schemes do not.

46 posted on 07/07/2013 9:28:31 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATs! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: txrefugee
Do not sign a organ donor card. If these mistakes happen now, can you imagine what will happen under ObamaCare when that bankrupt health care system will be able to make some extra money on harvested organs?

Please everyone. Do not sign it. It's another good intentions gone bad.

47 posted on 07/07/2013 9:38:48 AM PDT by Digger
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Thanks, you’re probably right, especially about the preemies. As I think about it, the statistics came from the UN or WHO.


48 posted on 07/07/2013 9:42:00 AM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely expressed as advice)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
“In the case of infant mortality, US providers do all they can to save the lives of premies, and counts each live births as a human life. Socialist schemes do not.”

This is absolutely true, and a significant factor that confounds the statistics that liberals try to use to justify pushing us toward the failing European models. The other consideration regarding infant mortality is that we have a significant percentage of pregnancies in which there is drug use, alcohol abuse, and related factors that can markedly affect fetal development, birth weight, Apgar scores, etc.

49 posted on 07/07/2013 9:45:35 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Gaffer

Presactly


50 posted on 07/07/2013 9:52:11 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Perhaps they were practicing for their new positions on the odumbocare’s death panels. (”Hurry up guys, we have 157 more waiting”)


51 posted on 07/07/2013 9:54:19 AM PDT by DaveA37 (I'm for SMALLER , HONEST government)
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To: Mr. K

What was the doctors reply, and the end result?


52 posted on 07/07/2013 10:07:21 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (When America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

I had a similar situation with my dad. He had a diabetic episode and was in a coma. The Dr. pushed me hard about feeding him.... “Are you SURE you want us to feed him? He could live like this for 20 years and he will NEVER wake up.” “Are you REALLY SURE you want us to feed him?”

Yes. Feed him. IF God wants him home you won’t be able to keep him here.

He woke up 10 days later. We had the best relationship of our lives for the last 2 years of his life.


53 posted on 07/07/2013 10:18:17 AM PDT by Grammy (He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that they cannot carry out their plans. Job 5:12)
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To: Grammy

“He woke up 10 days later. We had the best relationship of our lives for the last 2 years of his life.”

I will carry this with me as another crucial example of how easy it is to make mistakes in medicine, and as a reminder to never ever be dogmatic. I’m really happy to hear you had those years.


54 posted on 07/07/2013 10:49:54 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Being buried alive was a concern during 1800s. I recently read from Listverse.com true stories of those who had been buried alive:

"10 Horrifying Premature Burials"

When the Les Innocents cemetery in Paris, France was moved from the center of the city to the suburbs the number of skeletons found face down convinced many people and several doctors that premature burial was very common.

Really fascinating article:

http://listverse.com/2010/02/02/10-horrifying-premature-burials/

55 posted on 07/07/2013 11:01:28 AM PDT by Bon of Babble (Due to the current economic situation, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off!!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Hey doc, what happened to my spleen?


56 posted on 07/07/2013 11:03:22 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (I ain't no cracker, I'm a white a$$ soda biscuit...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

My father retired from there. When I got my drivers license he said not to sign the organ donor card. He told me if I ended up in the emergency room and was half dead and there was somebody in need of an organ I could end up being the donor. This was nearly 25+ years ago.


57 posted on 07/07/2013 2:47:24 PM PDT by 2right
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Do not be an organ doner.....use up your organs so no one would want them...but you have to live long enough to do so... I use to have organ doner on my drivers license, but crossed it off...too easy to declare someone dead who is not. hurry, hurry, get those organs before the patient wakes up or gets better...big money in organ transplants....


58 posted on 07/07/2013 4:36:09 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
"I’m really happy to hear you had those years."

Those years were a gift to me. My dad was a very difficult man to get along with. I think he and Jesus did a little business while he was "out", because he was the sweetest man ever when he came back.

59 posted on 07/07/2013 5:06:10 PM PDT by Grammy (He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that they cannot carry out their plans. Job 5:12)
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Wetli wondered why, after seeing signs that Burns was alive, a nurse would give Burns a sedative.

Dr. David Mayer, general and vascular surgeon and an associate professor of clinical surgery at New York Medical College, also reviewed the records and found the use of a sedative perplexing.

"It would sedate her to the point that she would be non-reactive," Mayer said. "If you have to sedate them or give them pain medication, they're not brain dead and you shouldn't be harvesting their organs."

Duh! Who's brain dead? That nurse at least!

60 posted on 07/07/2013 7:56:00 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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