Posted on 07/07/2013 7:02:42 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
I had organ donor removed from my driver's license after Obamacare passed.
>>Probably fairly often to those who have organ donor marked on their license.<<
It hasn’t happened to me yet, to my knowledge...
In Obamacare, everyone is an organ donor. You have no choice.
Issues with depression.....
Yeah, I guess that a bunch of f@ckup doctors and nurses feeling your only worth is to cut you up and sell the parts, even if you are really alive, would contribute to ‘depression’.
Incompetence at hospitals is rampant and scary. It gets worse every year despite increasing technology. I personally know of several incidents that resulted in the death of the patient. We have heard from people who live in other countries that it is even worse in places like England where they have socialized medicine. Unless the family insists on some sort of independent investigation... they generally do not find out.
Seriously? Can you cite "chapter and verse"? This would be an abomination to the religious beliefs of some people. Not that 0 would give a damn about that...but really, that's outrageous.
We have a St. Joseph’s in the Buffalo ‘burbs with a somewhat less than stellar reputation ... I’ve been in there a couple times, but even though it’s very close to home I’ll defer to other hospitals given the choice.
They’re fondly known as- Sloppy Joe’s
I'm not particularly religious. I'm philosophically opposed to animal or human organs being used in transplants.
how do ya spell money?
Mustn't disturb the organ transplant industrial complex.
I'm with you, Grania. I dislike everything about organ donation. It's not necessarily religious--there are plenty of reasons to be against it.
I think it's likely that they do, most often in the context of diagnosing ‘brain death’, as in this case. This woman probably was diagnosed as having anoxic brain injury and brain death on the basis of her drug overdose (e.g. was presumed to have stopped breathing for a prolonged period).
This diagnosis is made, in part, on electroencephalogram (EEG) assessments, evidence of higher cortical function on neurological assessment, and other criteria that are all potentially affected by the drugs she overdosed on, and that are often used for ‘sedation’ in the context of being intubated. Some of these can also alter EEG patterns, and those altered patterns can look like ‘brain death’ (e.g. ‘spike and dome’ pattern promoted by benzodiazepines, one of the drugs she overdosed on). The bottom line is that brain death is not an easy diagnosis to make, and should never be made without very, very careful analysis and a significant amount of time.
I had a patient about 4 years ago who suffered a cardiac arrest, witnessed by her 11 year old son. We ‘chilled’ her after resuscitation (i.e. dropping the body temperature to preserve brain function), and after rewarming she didn't wake up. A significant number of people, including her main intensive care nurse, were convinced she was brain dead and were speaking with the family about ‘letting go’ etc. She didn't have any brain swelling, and no other ‘signs’ of prolonged anoxia and hypotension (e.g. her kidneys and liver showed no signs of damage), and I just wasn't convinced there was enough evidence to make the diagnosis of brain death, although she did have EEG evidence of this. She had received benzodiazepines during the hospitalization, thus there was also the concern that this could be causing the EEG abnormalities.
The bottom line is that we stayed the course, and she woke up 4-5 weeks later, recognized her son, recovered, and went home.
No one who was in favor of ‘pulling the plug’ was doing so because of some personal gain issue, or because of lack of compassion. They thought they were doing the right thing for the family, to let them move on and not have false hope in a hopeless situation. Good intentions, however, do not preclude terrible mistakes.
I don’t carry a donor card.
After reading this, most people will understand why.
If I head into an emergency room, I want one thing on the minds of the staff.
That one thing is saving me. That is not to be balanced with any other effort.
End of story...
I think the whole organ transplant thing is sick. I would rather die and pass onto the other dimension than have doctors try to keep be alive using someone else’s God given organ. Doctors can do a lot of good, but also a lot of evil..abortion...sex changes, etc...
I also have ambivalent feelings as well. For instance,
I’m glad that Dick Cheney received a new heart, so he can
enjoy his retirement, richly deserved, with his family.
OTOH, after being in the O.R. for a few organ harvestings,
I changed my status to NOT a donor also. Just not for me. I
would decline receiving one also, to support that decision.
Very good. Got me.
I had to read it twice to get the joke.
http://www.aan.com/pressroom/home/getdigitalasset/8470
I. The clinical evaluation (prerequisites).
A. Establish irreversible and proximate cause of coma.
The cause of coma can usually be established by history, examination, neuroimaging, and laboratory tests.
Exclude the presence of a CNS depressant drug effect by history, drug screen, calculation of clearance using 5 times the drug’s half-life (assuming normal hepatic and renal function), or, if available, drug plasma levels below the therapeutic range. Prior use of hypothermia (e.g., after cardiopulmonary resuscitation for cardiac arrest) may delay drug metabolism. The legal alcohol limit for driving (blood alcohol content 0.08%) is a practical threshold below which an examination to determine brain death could reasonably proceed.
There should be no recent administration or continued presence of neuromuscular blocking agents (this can be defined by the presence of a train of 4 twitches with maximal ulnar nerve stimulation).
There should be no severe electrolyte, acid-base, or endocrine disturbance (defined by severe acidosis or laboratory values markedly deviated from the norm).
Our health care costs more than any other country’s by a long shot.
The quality of our health care is very low compared with most other countries. EVen some third world countries rank higher.
I’ll try to find the chart if anyone cares.
Meanwhile, do everything you possibly can to STAY HEALTHY.
Thanks for the excellent info.
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