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Senators Ask if NSA Collected Gun Data: Potential to construct gun database, senators say
The Washington Free Beacon ^
| June 28, 2013
| C.J. Ciaramella
Posted on 06/30/2013 2:20:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They wouldn’t lie to you Mr. Senator, would they?
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Senators are questioning whether the National Security Agency collected bulk data on more than just Americans phone records, such as firearm and book purchases. Geez, ya' think? /sarc
To: 2ndDivisionVet
This administration has no hesitation in lying to Congress, so what makes anyone think they will answer these questions honestly?
Until the registry is discovered, the mantra is deny, deny, deny.
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posted on
06/30/2013 2:24:50 PM PDT
by
Erik Latranyi
(When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yeah—like this will lead to the truth.........../s
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posted on
06/30/2013 2:25:03 PM PDT
by
basil
(ear)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
They will say no, but not say that with a couple of clicks in the database program, they can find any credit card purchases from any of a thousand places like Cabela’s or dirtcheapammo.com etc. and start from there.
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posted on
06/30/2013 2:32:34 PM PDT
by
jiggyboy
(Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
If Congress were serious they would serve them with a subpoena duces tecum (look it up) and if they produced nothing, an analyst team with security clearance shows up unannounced with a court order.
That’s really cute, isn’t it? I was actually thinking Congress might be serious about protecting the American people from one of their overreaching fellow feral agencies. Never mind .......... heh.
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posted on
06/30/2013 2:46:44 PM PDT
by
tumblindice
(America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Short answer: Of course they did. What do you intend to do about it?
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posted on
06/30/2013 2:51:27 PM PDT
by
TBP
(Obama lies, Granny dies.)
To: TBP
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posted on
06/30/2013 2:54:39 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Clapper is researching how to give the least untruthful answer.
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posted on
06/30/2013 3:21:08 PM PDT
by
JPG
(Stay strong.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
They never fail to amaze me with the depths they’re going to to mess with us.
B*stards.
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posted on
06/30/2013 3:25:04 PM PDT
by
NFHale
(The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Thank you for posting that. I wanted to post that the other day in a different thread, but I didn’t have time to search for it. Now it is book marked ... to be used regularly.
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posted on
06/30/2013 3:43:59 PM PDT
by
ConservativeInPA
(Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
To: BipolarBob
I think Congress has to start water boarding these idiots.
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posted on
06/30/2013 4:11:52 PM PDT
by
dagogo redux
(A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
NICS checks by phone?
Got 'em
Ammo orders by web?
Got 'em.
Magazines? Parts? optics? Cases? Tactical stuff? Holsters?
Check, check, check, check, check, and... Check! Got 'em!
Any communication that has traveled by phone, involved a credit/debit card, etc. The 4473 was just a formality.
Got the gun private sale, cash? good start. Ordered the 'stuff' and ammo on line? that leaves a trail. (Perhaps best to have one on paper, one (or more) not--the one on paper will be the one they look for, but will hide the traceable ammo buy for the other--unless you paid cash for that in person also.
But then, the same goes for most anything.
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posted on
06/30/2013 4:16:13 PM PDT
by
Smokin' Joe
(How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
If he says no, you can be sure he is telling the truth/s
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posted on
06/30/2013 4:32:30 PM PDT
by
Red in Blue PA
(When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
To: dagogo redux
If there was a Like button, I would hit it for your post.
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posted on
06/30/2013 4:33:41 PM PDT
by
Red in Blue PA
(When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The organs of tyranny can collect all the info they want, makes little difference or can stop razors to the throat of such architects in the shadows. The fomenting rage in this country will only last so long til the damn bursts.
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posted on
06/30/2013 4:51:18 PM PDT
by
TheBigJ
To: TheBigJ
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.
― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
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posted on
06/30/2013 4:53:01 PM PDT
by
2ndDivisionVet
(I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's next run. What'll you do?)
To: 2ndDivisionVet; ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; agrace; ATOMIC_PUNK; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; ...
Ohio Ping
A bipartisan group of 26 senators, led by Sen. Ron Wyden (D., Ore.) asked Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to detail the scope and limits of the National Security Agencys surveillance activities in a letter released Friday.
SNIP
Among the senators concerns was whether the NSAs bulk data harvesting program could be used to construct a gun registry or violate other privacy laws.
To: TheBigJ
When they finally decide to use the NSA data to confiscate guns, all the databases in the world won’t be able to save them from the blowback.
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