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The Suicide Detective
New York Times ^ | June 26, 2013 | KIM TINGLEY

Posted on 06/29/2013 12:16:02 AM PDT by nickcarraway

For reasons that have eluded people forever, many of us seem bent on our own destruction. Recently more human beings have been dying by suicide annually than by murder and warfare combined. Despite the progress made by science, medicine and mental-health care in the 20th century — the sequencing of our genome, the advent of antidepressants, the reconsidering of asylums and lobotomies — nothing has been able to drive down the suicide rate in the general population. In the United States, it has held relatively steady since 1942. Worldwide, roughly one million people kill themselves every year. Last year, more active-duty U.S. soldiers killed themselves than died in combat; their suicide rate has been rising since 2004. Last month, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announced that the suicide rate among middle-aged Americans has climbed nearly 30 percent since 1999. In response to that widely reported increase, Thomas Frieden, the director of the C.D.C., appeared on PBS NewsHour and advised viewers to cultivate a social life, get treatment for mental-health problems, exercise and consume alcohol in moderation. In essence, he was saying, keep out of those demographic groups with high suicide rates, which include people with a mental illness like a mood disorder, social isolates and substance abusers, as well as elderly white males, young American Indians, residents of the Southwest, adults who suffered abuse as children and people who have guns handy.

But most individuals in every one of those groups never have suicidal thoughts — even fewer act on them — and no data exist to explain the difference between those who will and those who won’t. We also have no way of guessing when — in the next hour? in the next decade? — known risk factors might lead to an attempt. Our understanding of how

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: clueless; fluff; humor; stupidity

1 posted on 06/29/2013 12:16:02 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

With a belief in G_d suicide is not a viable option for most, without a belief in G_d suicide is an easy way out. Not to say that those that believe in G_d do not commit suicide, just saying that those that have this belief have less of a tendency to do so. IMHO


2 posted on 06/29/2013 12:22:25 AM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: nickcarraway
...and people who have guns handy.


3 posted on 06/29/2013 12:23:29 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: doc1019

Mental-health care is one of the biggest reasons for suicides in this country. Including inside their own ‘profession’.


4 posted on 06/29/2013 12:26:38 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: OddLane

Poison or overdose is statistically the most preferred method of suicide.


5 posted on 06/29/2013 12:28:29 AM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: doc1019

So with all the billions spent on the new drugs we are still no better off?


6 posted on 06/29/2013 12:29:31 AM PDT by binreadin
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To: MestaMachine

Does not negate my premise.


7 posted on 06/29/2013 12:30:25 AM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: binreadin

Roger that.


8 posted on 06/29/2013 12:31:03 AM PDT by doc1019 (There is absolutely no difference between pro-choice and pro-abortion.)
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To: doc1019

No, doc, it does not and I didn’t mean to suggest that it did. I was just adding my own comment to the mix.


9 posted on 06/29/2013 12:37:52 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: nickcarraway

Take away hope and the will to live dies.

Obama and his followers take away hope by enslaving people to the state.


10 posted on 06/29/2013 2:21:27 AM PDT by DB
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To: beaversmom

Ping to myself for later reading.


11 posted on 06/29/2013 3:27:58 AM PDT by beaversmom
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To: doc1019

No. It is not.

The preferred method in the west far and away is an auto crash. It can be made to look accidental (so no one knows) and requires little pre planning.

It is pretty clear you don’t know or talk to many people in high risk groups.

The methods you refer to are hard to misconstrue as something else. Which is why many who take their own lives never consider them. Not everyone who kills themselves want it known.


12 posted on 06/29/2013 5:20:19 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: nickcarraway

Who knows - maybe when everything journalists at the New York Times believe in becomes a joke to the rest of us, they’ll start killing themselves too. Then they’ll understand.


13 posted on 06/29/2013 6:57:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: MestaMachine
mental-health care is one of the biggest reasons for suicides in this country

It would help so much if the hideous effect these mind-altering "meds" have on so many people were known and part of the decision to use them. In the insane mass killings we've seen over the past few years, I suspect the cause of most of them is these drugs. The guns might've been the means, but not the cause. Taking away the guns won't solve that problem.

How does that relate to the suicides? I've known of some suicides when it's been really unlikely. ALL of them were people, young and middle-aged adults, who had been given Adderall or Ritilin, and others. Their minds were totally messed up. Rather than turn the guns or violent episodes on others, they stop themselves.

PTSD, when treated with this crap, can have horrific consequences.

14 posted on 06/29/2013 7:05:38 AM PDT by grania
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To: nickcarraway
Realistically speaking more and more people,in the West at least,have *legitimate* reason to be depressed.Remember,the pessimist is always proven to be correct...eventually.
15 posted on 06/29/2013 8:13:30 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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To: nickcarraway
Last year, more active-duty U.S. soldiers killed themselves than died in combat; their suicide rate has been rising since 2004.

I'm fairly certain that, despite this statistic, the rate of military suicide is still lower than the rate of civilian suicide.

I had to tell the mother of a service member that her child died from an apparent self-inflicted injury. I will never forget her face as I told her.

16 posted on 06/29/2013 11:04:01 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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