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Poll gives Franken a big lead over all potential GOP opponents
Star Tribune ^ | 5/21/2013 | Kevin Diaz

Posted on 05/22/2013 2:55:49 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001

Minnesota U.S. Sen. Al Franken leads all potential GOP opponents by comfortable double-digit margins, according to a Public Policy Polling survey released Tuesday. Among those tested by the Democratic polling firm was U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann, who he leads 55-38, a 17 point margin. Franken leads conservative talk show host Jason Lewis by the same 17 point margin (54-37), as well as state Sen. Julianne Ortman (52-35). Narrowing the gap slightly against the first-term senator were businessman Mike McFadden and Hennepin County Sheriff Rich Stanek, who came within 15 points apiece (both at 51-36). Sen. Julie Rosen trailed by 16 points (52-36). Overall, Franken weighed in with a 51 percent approval rating, while 42 of voters disapprove. (His approval rating is 6 points better than President Obama’s in the state). One of the reasons for Franken’s commanding lead in the early going is the low-profile of the potential GOP field. That is actually a sign of hope for the Republicans. “Because of the low profile of the potential GOP candidates they do have a good amount of room to grow against Franken,” the pollsters concluded, “although he's certainly a clear favorite at any rate.”

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 113th; 2013polls; alfranken; corruption; democrats; elections; franken; fraudulentelection; liberalstate; minnesota; mn2014
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1 posted on 05/22/2013 2:55:49 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Public Policy Push Polling.

One choice against multiple others.


2 posted on 05/22/2013 3:06:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

More bad news. However, it is not surprising as he is the incumbent. Minnesota just needs to put up a conservative (complete opposite of Franken) and the Republican will win. If they put up a Franken lite then Minnesota will say why change to someone the same. Your choice Minnesota.


3 posted on 05/22/2013 3:18:53 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

” Overall, Franken weighed in with a 51 percent approval rating,”

Based on what exactly? What has happened to the Minnesota I knew from the dark days in the 70’s? Dear God is right.


4 posted on 05/22/2013 3:20:16 AM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: Artie

REALLY tell you where the NO information voter is coming from!


5 posted on 05/22/2013 3:22:02 AM PDT by mason-dixon (As Mason said to Dixon, you have to draw the line somewhere.)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Minnesota loves their clown. He’s not even funny anymore. Just don’t get it but we rub shoulders with hordes of idiots we share the nation with.. (Sigh)


6 posted on 05/22/2013 3:25:14 AM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: Artie

Do you mean the Minnesota of Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale? It seems Minn. has always been on the left, just not as far as it is now. Like most blue states if you take out Minneapolis and St. Paul the state would probably be red.


7 posted on 05/22/2013 3:25:22 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Artie

Help me out here...exactly when was Minnesota anything but a bastion for liberalism?


8 posted on 05/22/2013 3:36:14 AM PDT by ontap
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To: napscoordinator

The GOP has had nearly 5 years to vet and promote a strong candidate for this seat which should be vulnerable. If the GOP were truly interested in becoming the majority party, the RNC would have targeted Franken from day one and he would be sweating today.

This is shaping up to be a replay of Florida in 2012. Nelson was a weak incumbent who was vulnerable. The Republican establishment put up Connie Mack who thought he would win because his father had been the Senator prior to Nelson. Mack ran a pathetic campaign and Nelson coasted to victory. The same thing may happen in 2012 in North Carolina where Kay Hagen should be vulnerable but where is the strong Republican candidate.

Majority parties are aggressive in going after potentially beatable incumbents. Minority parties put up whoever is next in line and are satisfied whether they win or lose.


9 posted on 05/22/2013 3:41:04 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Franken was never elected, it was fraud.

He should have been censured by the Senate for his childish face-making behavior that time.

Thanks LiveFreeOrDie2001.


10 posted on 05/22/2013 3:44:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

I believe he’s vulnerable and this puff piece is infowar.

Lets start linking him to the IRS scandal (which he is), and start harping on him.


11 posted on 05/22/2013 3:48:14 AM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

Yes - I believe Jason Lewis would swat him like a Fly.


12 posted on 05/22/2013 3:51:17 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Elections have consequences - NOW LOOK what we have to deal with...)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Stupid MF’s


13 posted on 05/22/2013 3:53:35 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Once elected, it’s difficult to unseat a Senator. I fear that we have this moron for the rest of his life.


14 posted on 05/22/2013 3:58:16 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: ontap

Minnesota was far left throughout its history. The iron and copper mines produced a powerful union presence through the decades.

The weakness that can be exploited is the fact how liberal environmental policy is costing Minnisota jobs. Jobs that surrounding oil rich states are finding abundant with more conservative policies.

Our emphasis ishould be to get states to open up oil, fracking, and pipeline jobs even more with the use of public lands and deregulation, making us energy independent in the process. Success will breed success and Minnesota will follow.


15 posted on 05/22/2013 4:06:41 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Good! Getting what you’re looking for- is justice served, by the victim.


16 posted on 05/22/2013 4:08:28 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

2014 needs to be the referendum on Obamacare that 2012 should have been.


17 posted on 05/22/2013 4:13:09 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

I’m not surprised in Minnesota. They need to stop calling it a midwest state.


18 posted on 05/22/2013 4:15:51 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Graybeard58

Time for Michelle Bachman to show what she ‘s made of.


19 posted on 05/22/2013 4:19:20 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: napscoordinator

Conservatives also need to agree on who that candidate will be. The non-strategy of having multiple “perfect” candidates (that is, each one perfect to his group of supporters) means that they and their supporters spend all their time attacking each other and no time at all attacking the Dem. It also means that the GOP-e will cruise in with its own candidate (who will inevitably lose to the Dem) because the fragmented conservative groups don’t have a united front and enough clout to make a difference. This has happened time and again.


20 posted on 05/22/2013 4:20:31 AM PDT by livius
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To: tflabo
He’s not even funny anymore.

He never was

21 posted on 05/22/2013 4:21:02 AM PDT by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: ontap
“Help me out here...exactly when was Minnesota anything but a bastion for liberalism?”

You are right. I was on drugs in the 70's. Everything just seemed ok. They did have some great head shops in the cities. They even used to advertise paraphenalia on the radio.

22 posted on 05/22/2013 4:24:13 AM PDT by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
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To: cripplecreek

none of the others have even said they are running, have they?

I know Lewis has hinted, but has been for years.


23 posted on 05/22/2013 4:24:56 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: tflabo
Franken was never funny. Inarticulate. Lunatic left. Total fool. A good candidate should send him home [wherever that is.]
24 posted on 05/22/2013 4:29:52 AM PDT by R W Reactionairy ("Everyone is entitled to their own opinion ... but not to their own facts" Daniel Patrick Moynihan)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

WHAT BS


25 posted on 05/22/2013 4:45:36 AM PDT by madmominct
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

It doesn’t surprise me. Look what NYC/SF/IL/MD etc has done to ruin those states and America. We’re so infiltrated and compromised that it’s too late to get our Constitutional Republic back. It’s gone.

There is only one “box” solution to it all... take a guess.


26 posted on 05/22/2013 4:47:28 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: TurboZamboni
none of the others have even said they are running, have they?

I don't believe so. In polling, the incumbent will pretty much always win against multiple potential candidates. Its a little different in an actual race where there are only 2 choices.
27 posted on 05/22/2013 4:55:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Franken’s defense may be the vulnerability of the Democrats in so many other places.

AK, AR, LA, MT, NC, SD and WV look to be much better prospects for GOP pick-ups

CO, IA, MI, NH and OR look to be as good or better


28 posted on 05/22/2013 4:57:46 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

It is mind-boggling that so many so-called American voters can be so dumb!


29 posted on 05/22/2013 5:05:34 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

The late, great, USA.


30 posted on 05/22/2013 5:11:13 AM PDT by Daveinyork (."Trusting government with power and money is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys,)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

I do not understand Minnesota at all.


31 posted on 05/22/2013 5:21:21 AM PDT by austinaero
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To: napscoordinator
Minnesota just needs to put up a conservative (complete opposite of Franken) and the Republican will win.

HA! This will happen in the latest state to join the gay marriage parade??? Dream on.

32 posted on 05/22/2013 5:22:33 AM PDT by madprof98
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To: madprof98

Minnesota is full of people with continental European ancestry. Look at Europe.


33 posted on 05/22/2013 5:26:12 AM PDT by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Franken could be around for an eternity; that’s why Pawlenty should have challenged the “recount”. People in MN like their liberals weird now, not just old fashioned in the HHH mode.


34 posted on 05/22/2013 5:32:45 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Russ

You said...
“Like most blue states if you take out Minneapolis and St. Paul the state would probably be red.”

And Duluth, and the Iron Range. Minnesota is on the path to become the next California, Illinois,New York, and any other bastion of liberal “successes.”


35 posted on 05/22/2013 5:32:59 AM PDT by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: Redmen4ever

Putting MT on a “GOP pickup” list always seems to fail us.


36 posted on 05/22/2013 5:34:29 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Artie

Even Joseph Ball, whom HHH unseated in 1948, was considered a liberal, internationalist Republican.


37 posted on 05/22/2013 5:36:11 AM PDT by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: LMAO

What State on the East Coast isn’t already supposed California?


38 posted on 05/22/2013 5:36:15 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Russ
Not quite:


39 posted on 05/22/2013 5:38:07 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Pee Pee Polling is caca.


40 posted on 05/22/2013 5:40:50 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

Minnesota is just Massachusettes without the clam chowdah!


41 posted on 05/22/2013 5:49:45 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Redmen4ever
AK, AR, LA, MT, NC, SD and WV look to be much better prospects for GOP pick-ups
CO, IA, MI, NH and OR look to be as good or better

That's what they said about states like MT, MO, ND, WI in 2012. Yet we managed to shoot ourselves in the foot in too many of them.

42 posted on 05/22/2013 5:58:12 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001

The low-info voters (most of ‘em) have never heard of any of the potential opponents, so of course Franken beats them in a poll.
For that very reason it will be hard to defeat him.


43 posted on 05/22/2013 6:09:30 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: LiveFreeOrDie2001; mickie; flaglady47
The Minnesota Farmer-Labor Party was a left-wing socialist political party in Minnesota between 1918 and 1944.

At its height in the 20's and 30's the party's victorious winners included 3 governors, 3 U.S. senators, 8 U.S. congressmen and a majority in the Minnesota state legislature.

In 1944 Hubert Horatio Humphrey worked to merge the party with the state's Democrat party, forming what is today the Minnesota Democrat-Farmer-Labor Party.

Many Minnesota voters are descendents of Swedish immigrants....and they positively LOVE that European/Swedish/socialistic type of government as much as they love meatballs with gravy.

Leni

44 posted on 05/22/2013 6:13:36 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Usagi_yo

I believe there is NO Democrat who will be 100% safe after the public’s first contact with Obamacare.


45 posted on 05/22/2013 6:17:11 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Theodore R.; DoodleDawg

MT and ND were both very close, and could easily have gone the other way. I think we could have won MT and ND last year by “nationalizing” those elections, i.e., by sending in Paul Ryan to campaign with our candidates.

WI - Tommy Thompson lost, but so did Romney-Ryan. Same thing in quite a few other purple states.

MO - Our candidate wasn’t up to it. Ditto IN.

2014 is a midterm election, with a different turnout model. The Obama Administration is in its second term and voters tend to grow tired of the ruling party. The odds are good that the Republicans will gain the Senate, keep the House, keep their large plurality of Governors and of state legislators.


46 posted on 05/22/2013 6:27:33 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: MinuteGal
Many Minnesota voters are descendents of Swedish immigrants.

The highly organized and mobilized multiple-voter blacks of Milwaukee and Minn./St. Paul are what put Al Franken in his seat. Pure fraud uncontested by his opponent, the feckless, gutless RINO SOB, Norm Coleman, and his equally ball-less cohorts at the RNC, led directly to this thoroughly worthless individual in the Senate of the US. The Democrats were allowed to simply keep counting until they won. A replay of the atrocity in Washington, where the election was stolen from Rossi by exactly the same "urban" players.

If ever a case is to made for repeal of the disastrous 17th Amendment, it ought to have Al Franken's picture on it.

47 posted on 05/22/2013 6:36:13 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: Soul of the South
Mack ran a pathetic campaign

Mack (That is Cornelius McGillicuddy IV) is a hopeless drunkard with a violent twist and a demonstrable idiot. (He actually drools.) Of course Nelson beat him. My Irish Setter could have beaten him.

48 posted on 05/22/2013 6:39:01 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: Redmen4ever
MT and ND were both very close, and could easily have gone the other way. I think we could have won MT and ND last year by “nationalizing” those elections, i.e., by sending in Paul Ryan to campaign with our candidates.

Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades. They were still loses of seats that should have been GOP pickups.

WI - Tommy Thompson lost, but so did Romney-Ryan. Same thing in quite a few other purple states.

But Scott Walker won. Twice. Wisconsin isn't Massachusetts. Bush came pretty closed to winning it twice and it had been trending more red prior to 2008. Thompson was given a pretty good chance to win. But he didn't.

MO - Our candidate wasn’t up to it. Ditto IN.

I lived through the Akins fiasco. If you can guarantee none of the GOP candidates in 2014 are going to pull similar boneheaded stunts then I'll feel a whole lot better about 2014.

The odds are good that the Republicans will gain the Senate, keep the House, keep their large plurality of Governors and of state legislators.

And I'll repeat; the odds were good for a Senate takeover in 2012 as well. So saying the odds are good in 2014 shouldn't fill people with confidence just yet.

49 posted on 05/22/2013 7:10:38 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Close only counts in horseshoes - close is informative about the future.

Tommy Thompson was given a good chance and lost - Looking back, he lost. There is, therefore, a metaphysical sense in which his “chance” was always zero. But, given the information available early in the year, he had a good chance. As things developed, that chance slipped away. Who knows what would have happened in Wisconsin if, e.g., the storm hadn’t come ashore in New Jersey, or if Romney had handled Benghazi more deftly. I will not further engage in a superficial discussion of the meaning of probability in a complex world. But, here, wrap your head around the following “chance:” what was the chance that the Japanese scout plane that spotted the U.S. carriers off Midway would have had a busted radio?

Scott Walker won twice - but not during a Presidential election. The turnout model counts.


50 posted on 05/22/2013 7:32:14 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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