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FOX CABLE NEWS IS REPORTING 24 3RD GRADERS HAVE PERISHED IN OKLAHOMA.
FOX NEWS ^ | 5/20/2013 | Fox News

Posted on 05/20/2013 4:54:37 PM PDT by stockpirate

NO LINK ON THEIR WEBSITE YET,


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: 3rdgraders; deathtoll; moore; notbreakingnews; oklahoma; storm; vanity
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To: GeronL

Sad. I still believe that an underground facility MAY have helped. We used to go down to the bomb shelters in our school. Of course that was the Cold War, “Soviets are going to bomb us” era.
Maybe a “hardened: room or hallway just isn’t enough. For generations folks went underground and maybe that is what we need once again? Prayers go out...


401 posted on 05/21/2013 2:57:49 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: Netz

That place got smacked like this 14 years ago too.

I think they might go for the underground shelters after this


402 posted on 05/21/2013 2:59:09 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Netz

Everybody keeps talking about an underground bunker. It is just as easy and would cost no more than to build an above ground shelter that a storm like this could not touch. It really isn’t that hard to do.


403 posted on 05/21/2013 3:14:41 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: Rodamala
Reason #327,451 to homeschool.

Did you see what was left of many, many homes? Foundations and debris. I cringe at the thought of people being in these homes when this monster hit.

404 posted on 05/21/2013 3:35:04 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: eastforker
Where would you “feel” safer? Under the ground or above it when this kind of thing hits? Man's nature is to dig down to seek shelter or digs a “foxhole” or “hunkers down”, lays low, “hugs the Earth”, etc. No man made structure, at a reasonable cost protects man better than the Earth herself therefore...dig.
405 posted on 05/21/2013 3:35:41 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: Netz

Obviously above ground shelters are close to worthless when “this kind of thing” runs over you.


406 posted on 05/21/2013 3:37:12 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: Netz

BS. Iron and concrete would make a bunker no tornado could penetrate.


407 posted on 05/21/2013 3:38:50 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: eastforker

Just hardening an existing room in a school or house won’t cut it though


408 posted on 05/21/2013 3:39:32 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Yes, it can be.Not that hard to do.


409 posted on 05/21/2013 3:42:13 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: eastforker

Concrete dome homes could see their day?


410 posted on 05/21/2013 3:44:46 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GeronL

Don’t need a dome home. 12 inch I beams, 1/4 inch plate, it can be done.


411 posted on 05/21/2013 3:47:29 AM PDT by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: Smokin' Joe

That was the storm I was referring to Joe.
My daughters home in Hughesville was hit hard.


412 posted on 05/21/2013 3:47:50 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: GeronL

As a civil engineer I designed an oil refinery control room designed to withstand a blast shock wave MUCH greater than a the over pressurization of an F5. One room in each school should be built like a bank vault. It can do other things but that is the hurricane “safe” room.


413 posted on 05/21/2013 3:49:08 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Might need more than one room though


414 posted on 05/21/2013 3:52:58 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: rollo tomasi

IIRC, the Johnstown Flood was less an issue with the terrible side of nature (heavy rainfall, for some time, but not biblical in intensity) and more an issue with a poorly made earthen dam.

THAT was one scary event. I read the book, and the guy who was in the train heading into town at full speed ahead of the flood while blowing his whistle is just hair raising to consider.

This tornado was a freak of nature, as ones that size and strength are.


415 posted on 05/21/2013 3:56:25 AM PDT by rlmorel ("We'll drink to good health for them that have it coming." Boss Spearman in Open Range)
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To: eccentric

It’s much worse than I thought. I heard one reporter describing how the super cell “came out of the heavens”.


416 posted on 05/21/2013 4:39:28 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: eastforker
Yes but why don't we see many above-ground, reinforced steel & concrete tornado shelters? Cost? Less safe? Not sure. What do you think? Why is your concept not applied in the fields of Oklahoma? I saw pictures of survivors emerging from classic, two-door underground shelters...the kind that Dorthy ran to in the Wizard of Oz...
417 posted on 05/21/2013 4:59:50 AM PDT by Netz (Netz)
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To: Venturer
Some of my relatives were north of Rte 6 in town and escaped serious damage to their homes. When I saw pics of what was left of my grandparents' home, I was thankful they had passed on after long lives. (God does work in mysterious ways.) I could not imagine them in their last years surviving that.

I'm sorry to hear that your daughter's home was in the path of that one, and I pray they have recovered.

418 posted on 05/21/2013 5:01:28 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: kelly4c

Probably didn’t but I know how frightened they must have been...
We had a similar drill with our third graders at school where we would go to a lower hallway to duck and cover...
It’s all too easy for me to imagine what happened...horrible.


419 posted on 05/21/2013 5:19:20 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Delta Dawn

It’s the next morning and it appears they know now how they drowned...
Horrific...


420 posted on 05/21/2013 5:21:04 AM PDT by matginzac
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