Skip to comments.On masculinity: My father's generation were better at being men
Posted on 05/19/2013 2:44:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
According to Diane Abbott, Britain is facing a crisis of masculinity. In a speech made on Thursday under the auspices of the thinktank Demos, the shadow health minister warned of a generation of angry, inarticulate young men who had no idea of their role in society. Raised on a diet of pornography and consumerism, they were "caught between the stiff-upper-lip approach of previous generations" and the "pornified ideals" of a youth culture that featured Viagra as a party drug and promoted sexism and homophobia.More prone to depression and less well educated than young women, and perhaps jobless despite a degree, they often found themselves trapped in the parental home as long-term adolescents who increasingly resented family life. In Abbott's phrase, they were hyper-masculine that is, aggressive and misogynistic without any understanding of the many-sided nature of a man's life and no talent for self-expression.
The speech was contested even before it was delivered. The columnist and novelist Tony Parsons wrote that men have never been better never as articulate about their emotions, or more involved with their children and partners. To remedy any remaining flaws, he wanted boxing lessons in every school and a return to the "manly virtues" that would oblige good men to protect women and children by punching bullies "in the cakehole". Here was a man joining in the debate, as so many women writers have recently invited us to, and finding part of the solution in how men behaved in the East End c1948, or at least as how Ealing studios imagined they did. A world in which a man lands a blow on an adulterer and says: "That'll larn ya"; a world without "nonces" or killers photographing their dead 12-year-old victims; a world where grooming still means "Don't overdo the Brylcreem, sonny....
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When I was a Scoutmaster, I told the parents that my job was to provide their boys with a safe environment in which to fail, because we learn more from our failures than from successes. The Mothers would be up in arms, but the Dads would nod knowingly.
For too many parents, “BSA” stood for “Baby Sitters of America”. “Mind our kid while we self-actual ice!”
That is “self-actualize”
Spanning the gamut from angelic to loathsome, women can be the most captivatingly awesome of creatures, or they can be Hellary!, or any of the countless variants between.
In our eternally mysterious yearning for their company, and in deference to their infinite idiosyncrasies, men routinely supply and refresh the various clubs used to beat us into seeming PC impotence.
Wimyn seem to think they want to wage war on men and rule the world, when the reality, absent that chivalry and forbearance, is that they wouldn't last a day.
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I'm glad you mentioned that. For several years here in Canada, the Boy Scouts have been integrated. Yes, girls are allowed to join Cubs and Scouts, and do. Of course, boys are not allowed to join Brownies and Girl Guides (hopefully none have ever thought of doing so). I have always held that boys need to have an outlet available to them to just be themselves, benefit from wholesome male bonding, without any feminine distractions. I was in the Scouting movement from the late 50's through the 60's and loved every minute of it. What I learned in Scouting still influences a lot of my actions and values today.
If a woman gives me grief, I employ “the worst insult you can inflict upon a woman”.
I silently turn my back and walk away without looking back.
Anyway, what drives me farshemelt are the TV ads with the clueless dork husband and his stylish, savvy, sassy wife. Guess that’s part of the chickification of the media.
Though I don’t mind saying that if my wife brings me something she can’t open, I make a mighty effort & when the lid pops, I say “Oof!! It’s not you, that was really on there tight!”
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Excellent, well tempered rant !!
I wholeheartedly support everything you wrote.
The UK chose to have a welfare state after the conclusion of WWII and this is the result.
The following article appeared in their Sunday advice column last week: "My boyfriend says my vagina is repulsive".
My advice would be to find a boyfriend who doesn't read the Grauniad.
A guy today is actually looked down on or discounted if he opens the door for a young woman.
“Not true here. You need to move to the South”
I am of the elder generation and I do it quite often, usually get a ‘Thank You!’ in return, but this is in redneck Texas...
Demos is an extreme left-wing think tank. So, anything they promote has got to be bad.
One of the huge differences between conservatism and liberalism is that conservatives know failure is a part of life and cannot be avoided for 99% of the population at some point in their lives. Liberals wish to create a world by which failure is impossible. Which is an impossible task in the first place and does a person no good by shielding the person from learning experiences. Like growing up in a perfectly insulated house. But when the person leaves the house, they are much more vulnerable to disease. Which is why I guess many you libs don't want to leave the cocoon.
Personally, I’ll take ‘handy’ (which implies a good dose of common sense, IMO) over ‘handsome’ any day! :-)
Baby boomers killed a million communists in Vietnam...that war was lost by World War II and Korean War-generation leftists who were loyal to American Leftism and the Soviet Union. Gen X, Gen Y, and Millenials conquered Iraq in 3 weeks, captured Fallujah with only a couple hundred casualties (a city similar to Hue in Vietnam), drove out the Taliban in Afghanistan, came close to establishing a stable Government in Iraq.....and these will probably be undone by Leftist Baby Boomers still upset that Eastern Europe was liberated from their hero-nation The Soviet Union.
The point is, you give Americans an obstacle we still have enough Americans who can overcome it.
“Compared to the Greatest Generation, there is no comparison.”
The Greatest Generation took out their racist trash at Nuremburg, while this generation’s racist trash are still ruling America.
We’ll find out soon, when we face challenges as significant as those we faced from the 30s through WW2.
This your answer
If history cycles as it has previously done, this Crisis Era will run from approximately 2005 to 2025, give or take a few years on each end.
Gen-x and the older Gen-y are already experiencing more than 40% unemployment.
Gen-x and Gen-y most likely will experience their "great war", likely already underway, likely against a commie/muslim alliance, likely against more and greater enemies than the Axis alliance, likely to heavily involve the mainland USA. If we do not win, there will likely come a New Dark Age.
|Generations||Age in 2008 (max)||Age in 2008 (min)||Age in 2012 (max)||Age in 2012 (min)||Age in 2016 (max)||Age in 2016 (min)||Years Born||to||Came of age (20)||to||Enter Middle Age (40)||to||Became Elder (60)||to||Die-off (80+)||to|
|Silent (post Hero)||83||63||87||67||91||71||1925||1945||1945||1965||1965||1985||1985||2005||2005||2025|
|Gen-y (Mellennial - next Hero)||23||3||27||7||31||11||1985||2005||2005||2025||2025||2045||2045||2065||2065||2085|
|Gen-z (next Silent)||3||-17||7||-13||11||-9||2005||2025||2025||2045||2045||2065||2065||2085||2085||2105|