Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

On masculinity: My father's generation were better at being men
The Guardian ^ | May 17, 2013 | Ian Jack

Posted on 05/19/2013 2:44:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

According to Diane Abbott, Britain is facing a crisis of masculinity. In a speech made on Thursday under the auspices of the thinktank Demos, the shadow health minister warned of a generation of angry, inarticulate young men who had no idea of their role in society. Raised on a diet of pornography and consumerism, they were "caught between the stiff-upper-lip approach of previous generations" and the "pornified ideals" of a youth culture that featured Viagra as a party drug and promoted sexism and homophobia.More prone to depression and less well educated than young women, and perhaps jobless despite a degree, they often found themselves trapped in the parental home as long-term adolescents who increasingly resented family life. In Abbott's phrase, they were hyper-masculine – that is, aggressive and misogynistic – without any understanding of the many-sided nature of a man's life and no talent for self-expression.

The speech was contested even before it was delivered. The columnist and novelist Tony Parsons wrote that men have never been better – never as articulate about their emotions, or more involved with their children and partners. To remedy any remaining flaws, he wanted boxing lessons in every school and a return to the "manly virtues" that would oblige good men to protect women and children by punching bullies "in the cakehole". Here was a man joining in the debate, as so many women writers have recently invited us to, and finding part of the solution in how men behaved in the East End c1948, or at least as how Ealing studios imagined they did. A world in which a man lands a blow on an adulterer and says: "That'll larn ya"; a world without "nonces" or killers photographing their dead 12-year-old victims; a world where grooming still means "Don't overdo the Brylcreem, sonny....

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: depression; manhood; psychology; uk; worldwartwo; wwii
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-63 next last
Could the Baby Boomers, Generation X, Generation Y and the Millennials have handled a severe depression, dust bowls, 40% unemployment, starvation and want? Could they have won World War II against three implacable foes who meant to destroy or enslave us? We'll never know, I suppose.
1 posted on 05/19/2013 2:44:47 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
...the shadow health minister warned of a generation of angry, inarticulate young men who had no idea of their role in society. Raised on a diet of pornography and consumerism, they were "caught between the stiff-upper-lip approach of previous generations" and the "pornified ideals" of a youth culture that featured Viagra as a party drug and promoted sexism and homophobia.

From my observation the real problem todays boys and young men face as they transition to manhood, is that society has totally gone in the tank for women. It has become so fashionable to cheer on the ladies, that the poor little boys and young men are left to fend for themselves. And that today is tantamount to swimming against the roaring river.

Where are the male role models? Today's leading man in the media is all too often more efiminate than the women in the 50s and 60s of the last century.

A guy today is actually looked down on or discounted if he opens the door for a young woman. If he does he's denegrating her. The next babe comes along and if he doesn't open the door, he's a disgraceful lout.

Don't dare raise you voice boys, and if you can squeeze out tears, bonus points aplenty.

Can't tell you how many times I've heard it said society doesn't really need men these days. Then the women who have just said that lament the fact there are no real men around anymore.

Say you're sorry and your weak. Don't say it and you're conceited and not worthy then either.

I love the women who just spoil young boys rotten, giving them hollow compliments ever few seconds, just before they sit down in the living room with their friends and rip ever male they've come in contact with in their lives over the age of 18.

Where do these women think the men over 18 come from? Dropped from space in the middle of the night?

It's just such a double standard. Young boys, great. Men over 18, evil demon seed...

Guys are fed so much bull. Be vulnerable. Don't be afraid to show your emotions. Don't challenge women. Women have it hard enough as it is...

LOL, and this woman lays it all off on pornography? Really?

In the 70s and 80s the powers that be in the education system determined that the language used in school was boy-centric. The phrases and concepts appealed to boys, not girls. Of course this had to be corrected. And so they set about correcting it to the extent that the perceived problem was so fixed, that they reversed the problem. All of a sudden, it was girl-centric. And then, no problem at all.

Boys are bored stiff. Recesses where they used to blow off steam are now in many places history. The very place where boys learned their social skills to deal with other men, was all of a sudden short-circuited. No need for that girls... huh!

Well folks, the societal engineers have worked their magic. Women far outnumber men in universities. Who could have seen this coming?

Hey men, if your kid give you problems, just call the police on them... LMAO

Don't you dare raise a finger to get those kids back in line. You're so relegated by this society that not only your wife tells you what to do and you better do it, but your own kids can tell you what to do, and you better do it.

Good luck gals. It's a brave new world you folks ushered in. Enjoy...

2 posted on 05/19/2013 3:06:01 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think we DO know.

And we don't like the answer.

3 posted on 05/19/2013 3:26:23 AM PDT by knarf (uals-two logic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

Bump.


4 posted on 05/19/2013 3:27:34 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (“Liberalism” is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

Yep ... what you said.


5 posted on 05/19/2013 3:28:48 AM PDT by knarf (uals-two logic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m pretty sure that the turning point was the Vietnam War: the guys who had guts joined - or accepted their draft - and served without complaint. The rest hid out and found excuses (”I’d fight for my country - just not this war”). The dodgers wore fricking flowers and bell bottoms and grew their hair out and never regained their manhood.

Now those weaklings are in power and their kids have followed their example. Is it any wonder that Democrats/incompetents/homosexuals are changing all that matters with little resistance?


6 posted on 05/19/2013 3:52:05 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne
Just for your info:
Diane Abbott
A member of the Labour Party (Insufferable Lefties)
Elected as MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington in 1987
The First Black Woman to be elected to the Commons.

Your comment:
BUMP!

7 posted on 05/19/2013 3:52:37 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. liberals and logic: Never confuse the two! Hi MI# !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

“A guy today is actually looked down on or discounted if he opens the door for a young woman. “

Not true here. You need to move to the South


8 posted on 05/19/2013 3:57:04 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

I couldn’t have said it better, so I won’t.


9 posted on 05/19/2013 4:00:55 AM PDT by The Working Man
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Could they have won World War II against three implacable foes who meant to destroy or enslave us? We’ll never know, I suppose.”

There are implacable foes within the gates, now, who have the levers of power, as we speak.

They’re jealous of power, don’t want to share it, promote “democracy”, yet rule against the will of the people.

When the Baby Boomers, Generation X, Generation Y and the Millenials finally realize what has been robbed from them, we might know philosophically, politicaly and practically what they can do.

Will freedom endure? Will the bullies of this world be controlled? Will the political psychotics among us recognize their illness?

Time will only tell.

(Don’t sell them short, yet.)

IMHO


10 posted on 05/19/2013 4:12:18 AM PDT by ripley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

and I would add young men are expected to hold back when other demographics— women, certain minorities— are on the field. It is a huge mess. 25 years ago I could tell which young men in my platoon had grown up in a single parent (mother) household. Now it’s the whole bloody culture.


11 posted on 05/19/2013 4:14:49 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

It says a lot about the “feminist” movement when they have to emasculate men to be ‘successful’. There is some hope: I have a thoroughly modern niece who has met a really great guy .... it has been wonderful to see them embracing traditional roles - he loves it when she cooks for him (she does it because she loves him, wants him to be happy) and she likes looking out the window and seeing him doing “manly” (her description) things like chopping wood for the wood stove. Of course, she helps him fix the combine and get in the hay ... they work as a team. My advice to my nieces was not to marry a ‘man’ with a handshake like a sweaty marshmallow .... so far, so good - they’re finding guys that love the outdoors, have a ‘handy’ streak, and are truly ‘manly’ ... but then they are truly ‘womanly’ and those two characteristics attract each other. BTW - my nieces and their men were all raised in families where it was God first, then family ... no coincidence they all turned out so well.


12 posted on 05/19/2013 4:26:35 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: AppyPappy
“A guy today is actually looked down on or discounted if he opens the door for a young woman. “ Not true here. You need to move to the South

I once had a young "woman" make snide remarks when I opened a door for her. I asked her if maybe I should let her open the door for me. She said I could shove it because she wouldn't do that. I then told her that it was a good thing I was willing to open it or we'd both be stuck outside together and enough of her mouth would cause me to break a cardinal rule about hitting the weaker sex. I had a great day after that but I would guess she spewed bile for most of it.

13 posted on 05/19/2013 4:33:52 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: knarf

I rememeber the story, it may be a local one of a mother painting her sons (5 yrs) nails and being exuberant about him being able to express himself. THIS is a microcosm of the dammage these mental midgets have inflicted on society where masculinity is agressiveness and aggressiveness is a no no.


14 posted on 05/19/2013 4:34:27 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne
Well said, Doughty. The militant feminists have won. This is what they wanted. Now they're complaining that all of the "good men" are gone. Well... what did you expect?

In the 70s and 80s the powers that be in the education system determined that the language used in school was boy-centric.

This is never more prevalent than in our higher education system now. Visit any engineering college in the United States. From Maine to California, you'll find that the overwhelming majority of engineering courses are occupied by non-American men. American women, not so much, but non-American men: everywhere.

The feminists literally bred the curiosity out of our boys. Schools used to feature hands-on hard sciences. We used to play war and tag and capture the flag in the school yard during recess/P.E. Now the boys are disinterested in anything that doesn't involve TV, video games, or sex.

Political correctness has destroyed everything about the essential human experience we all KNOW to be true. Political correctness is neither political nor correct. It is destructive and wrong, and we really need to do something about all of this crap infecting our society.

15 posted on 05/19/2013 4:43:39 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Society doesn't want to acknowledge that there is a difference between masculine and feminine virtues.

There is a great effort to make women into men and men into women.

16 posted on 05/19/2013 4:45:46 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

The Boy Scouts is a premiere organization on helping groom a young boy into a man. Promoting the values and virtues necessary....

I was proud to serve as a Scoutmaster for several years....

Regarding myself, I know what’s right and wrong so I do the right thing almost without thought or second consideration. I ain’t perfect but I endeavor every day to hold to the standards I’ve set, not anyone elses....

As a result, I care little about what anyone else thinks of me....I don’t need acceptance nor approval from others.

So when I hold a door open for a lady, I don’t do it for her approval or acceptance, I do it because I hold to those standards.

For example, I enjoy cigars.... Everyone tells me I need to quit (mindless little robots) however I enjoy them in moderation and totally WITHOUT GUILT.

When you have strong foundation standards and faith ingrained deeply.....and adhere to them, your life, choices and direction greatly simplifies and you become calm and happy versus agitated and angry as so many male youth are today....


17 posted on 05/19/2013 4:48:37 AM PDT by nevergore
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: trebb

“You may think you are no longer weak and defenseless but if I punch you in the mouth, I bet you tell the police that I hit a weak defenseless woman “.....Coworker to a feminist coworker. She complained to management but they passed on deciding whether a white woman was higher on the Diversity chain than a black man.


18 posted on 05/19/2013 4:49:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne
For the last several years, I was involved in Cub Scouts. It was truly a depressing experience. Bunch of moms as leaders that had no control. I was only male leader. Most of the boys were from single mom or grandparents raising them.

Once I got involved, I did not tolerate the disrespect. I actually raised my voice at first often to get control. Several of the mothers complained including other leaders. When they did I had a simple question. “Why is your boy in the Scouts?” I got all sorts of answers, but I would tell them that the purpose of Scouts is to make strong men. It requires discipline for a boy to become a man. Otherwise he is just an overgrown boy.

The best part was that most of the boys actually desired the authority. They are looking for a strong man to lead them but sadly have very few to chose from today.

19 posted on 05/19/2013 4:52:15 AM PDT by Angry_White_Man_Syndrome
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Look at today’s troops. They do well despite their civilian leaders and our lost society.


20 posted on 05/19/2013 4:58:19 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Angry_White_Man_Syndrome

When I was a Scoutmaster, I told the parents that my job was to provide their boys with a safe environment in which to fail, because we learn more from our failures than from successes. The Mothers would be up in arms, but the Dads would nod knowingly.

For too many parents, “BSA” stood for “Baby Sitters of America”. “Mind our kid while we self-actual ice!”


21 posted on 05/19/2013 5:05:49 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: Redleg Duke

That is “self-actualize”


22 posted on 05/19/2013 5:07:20 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne
The great taboo, the veritable mastodon in the room, is that whatever societal 'advances' Western women have made since the caves are the direct result of the chivalry and doting forbearance of men.

Spanning the gamut from angelic to loathsome, women can be the most captivatingly awesome of creatures, or they can be Hellary!, or any of the countless variants between.

In our eternally mysterious yearning for their company, and in deference to their infinite idiosyncrasies, men routinely supply and refresh the various clubs used to beat us into seeming PC impotence.

Wimyn seem to think they want to wage war on men and rule the world, when the reality, absent that chivalry and forbearance, is that they wouldn't last a day.


<flame>
</give a damn>

23 posted on 05/19/2013 5:07:25 AM PDT by tomkat (solve for x: Baraq = islamite .. islam = enemy ... Baraq = x)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: nevergore
The Boy Scouts is a premiere organization on helping groom a young boy into a man. Promoting the values and virtues necessary....

I'm glad you mentioned that. For several years here in Canada, the Boy Scouts have been integrated. Yes, girls are allowed to join Cubs and Scouts, and do. Of course, boys are not allowed to join Brownies and Girl Guides (hopefully none have ever thought of doing so). I have always held that boys need to have an outlet available to them to just be themselves, benefit from wholesome male bonding, without any feminine distractions. I was in the Scouting movement from the late 50's through the 60's and loved every minute of it. What I learned in Scouting still influences a lot of my actions and values today.

24 posted on 05/19/2013 5:10:25 AM PDT by Dartman (Mubarak and Gaddafi are going to look like choirboys when this is over)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: trebb

If a woman gives me grief, I employ “the worst insult you can inflict upon a woman”.

I silently turn my back and walk away without looking back.

Anyway, what drives me farshemelt are the TV ads with the clueless dork husband and his stylish, savvy, sassy wife. Guess that’s part of the chickification of the media.

Though I don’t mind saying that if my wife brings me something she can’t open, I make a mighty effort & when the lid pops, I say “Oof!! It’s not you, that was really on there tight!”


25 posted on 05/19/2013 5:20:01 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: DoughtyOne

re Post # 2

Excellent, well tempered rant !!
I wholeheartedly support everything you wrote.


26 posted on 05/19/2013 5:31:51 AM PDT by Dartman (Mubarak and Gaddafi are going to look like choirboys when this is over)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

The UK chose to have a welfare state after the conclusion of WWII and this is the result.


27 posted on 05/19/2013 5:41:30 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Somewhat rich; the Grauniad lecturing on masculinity.

The following article appeared in their Sunday advice column last week: "My boyfriend says my vagina is repulsive".

My advice would be to find a boyfriend who doesn't read the Grauniad.

28 posted on 05/19/2013 5:42:20 AM PDT by Vide
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AppyPappy

“A guy today is actually looked down on or discounted if he opens the door for a young woman. “

“Not true here. You need to move to the South”

I am of the elder generation and I do it quite often, usually get a ‘Thank You!’ in return, but this is in redneck Texas...


29 posted on 05/19/2013 5:44:37 AM PDT by CenTex (November 6, 2012... A day that will live in infamy!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: MissMagnolia

“If the women don’t find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.”
-Red Green (1991 - 2006)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Green_Show
http://www.youtube.com/user/RedGreenTV


30 posted on 05/19/2013 5:47:26 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I’m a conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Demos is an extreme left-wing think tank. So, anything they promote has got to be bad.


31 posted on 05/19/2013 5:48:49 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Compared to the “Greatest Generation”, there is no comparison. Though I hold out hope for the latest one.
I am not sure about the Brits, but I suspect their masculinity started on a downward spiral about the same time as ours did. Around 1960-1965.
I blame Lyndon Johnson and The Beetles. He sparked the birth of the “Great American Chicken” and they sparked the rise of the “boy bands” that sound like girl bands.
32 posted on 05/19/2013 5:52:02 AM PDT by Tupelo (The Government lies, then the media lies to cover up the government lies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Redleg Duke
learn from our failures"

One of the huge differences between conservatism and liberalism is that conservatives know failure is a part of life and cannot be avoided for 99% of the population at some point in their lives. Liberals wish to create a world by which failure is impossible. Which is an impossible task in the first place and does a person no good by shielding the person from learning experiences. Like growing up in a perfectly insulated house. But when the person leaves the house, they are much more vulnerable to disease. Which is why I guess many you libs don't want to leave the cocoon.

33 posted on 05/19/2013 6:01:58 AM PDT by driftless2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 21 | View Replies]

To: Jack Hydrazine

Personally, I’ll take ‘handy’ (which implies a good dose of common sense, IMO) over ‘handsome’ any day! :-)


34 posted on 05/19/2013 6:04:06 AM PDT by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Baby Boomers, Generation X, Generation Y and the Millennials have handled a severe depression, dust bowls, 40% unemployment, starvation and want?

Baby boomers killed a million communists in Vietnam...that war was lost by World War II and Korean War-generation leftists who were loyal to American Leftism and the Soviet Union. Gen X, Gen Y, and Millenials conquered Iraq in 3 weeks, captured Fallujah with only a couple hundred casualties (a city similar to Hue in Vietnam), drove out the Taliban in Afghanistan, came close to establishing a stable Government in Iraq.....and these will probably be undone by Leftist Baby Boomers still upset that Eastern Europe was liberated from their hero-nation The Soviet Union.

The point is, you give Americans an obstacle we still have enough Americans who can overcome it.

35 posted on 05/19/2013 6:17:55 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Nothing is more savage and brutal than justifiably angry Americans. Don’t believe me? Ask the Germa)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tupelo

“Compared to the “Greatest Generation”, there is no comparison.”

The “Greatest Generation” took out their racist trash at Nuremburg, while this generation’s racist trash are still ruling America.


36 posted on 05/19/2013 6:41:51 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

We’ll find out soon, when we face challenges as significant as those we faced from the 30s through WW2.


37 posted on 05/19/2013 7:13:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AppyPappy
She complained to management

This your answer

38 posted on 05/19/2013 7:26:08 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Could the Baby Boomers, Generation X, Generation Y and the Millennials have handled a severe depression, dust bowls, 40% unemployment, starvation and want? Could they have won World War II against three implacable foes who meant to destroy or enslave us? We'll never know, I suppose.

Some of us may not ever know, but this Crisis Era is already in full swing. Crisis Eras are defined as a major economic upheaval and a major war, usually in that order.

If history cycles as it has previously done, this Crisis Era will run from approximately 2005 to 2025, give or take a few years on each end.

Gen-x and the older Gen-y are already experiencing more than 40% unemployment.

Gen-x and Gen-y most likely will experience their "great war", likely already underway, likely against a commie/muslim alliance, likely against more and greater enemies than the Axis alliance, likely to heavily involve the mainland USA. If we do not win, there will likely come a New Dark Age.

Generations Age in 2008 (max) Age in 2008 (min) Age in 2012 (max) Age in 2012 (min) Age in 2016 (max) Age in 2016 (min) Years Born to Came of age (20) to Enter Middle Age (40) to Became Elder (60) to Die-off (80+) to
Hero (WW-II) 103 83 107 87 111 91 1905 1925 1925 1945 1945 1965 1965 1985 1985 2005
Silent (post Hero) 83 63 87 67 91 71 1925 1945 1945 1965 1965 1985 1985 2005 2005 2025
Boomer 63 43 67 47 71 51 1945 1965 1965 1985 1985 2005 2005 2025 2025 2045
Gen-x (Survivor) 43 23 47 27 51 31 1965 1985 1985 2005 2005 2025 2025 2045 2045 2065
Gen-y (Mellennial - next Hero) 23 3 27 7 31 11 1985 2005 2005 2025 2025 2045 2045 2065 2065 2085
Gen-z (next Silent) 3 -17 7 -13 11 -9 2005 2025 2025 2045 2045 2065 2065 2085 2085 2105

39 posted on 05/19/2013 7:38:25 AM PDT by meadsjn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: MuttTheHoople
The point is, you give Americans an obstacle we still have enough Americans who can overcome it.

I agree with you.

Although it looks hopeless, there is something in men that has been ingrained in them for millennium that cannot be suppressed in a few short years by nagging feminists.

Case in point my cousin's first born boy, from the beginning, was made to play with the gender neutral, non competitive games and toys.

Well, she divorced and her kids were babysit by our mom(this is in the seventies) Although us boys were older, and didn't want to hang around a four year old, sometimes we allowed him to "play' with us, whether it was baseball, tag or just roughhousing. And of course we have plenty of old plastic toy guns, plastic toy soldiers and old GI Joes, which he took to like a duck to water

And this boy who was never allowed to play with toy guns,or watch "violent" shows or even Bugs Bunny cartoons, went home and started "shooting" everything(with his finger gun)

His mom was surprised at his aggressiveness, never suspected us older boys would hang around her boy.

When he went to school and meet little boys his own age, she finally gave up her attempt to tame her little boy.

Today's boys' natural masculinity has not disappeared, just misdirected into video games and earlier sexual activity.

Just need good ole fashion male role models.
40 posted on 05/19/2013 7:56:54 AM PDT by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Better men” is always a hard thing to say. For example, if you look at modern veterans, many of whom have fought in a dozen or more deployments, against an intractable and ruthless enemy, you will find men with impressive strength of character.

If this is not seen in the youth, it is because they have not been challenged to exhibit such strength. Instead their energies go in other directions, for better or worse.

In Britain today, you see a society debilitated by socialism and nanny government. But you also will see the result, the growth of movements such as UKIP and the EDL, that abhor socialism and the surrender of national pride to the faceless gray men of Brussels.

If anything, Britain’s greatest generation resulted in the weakness and depravity in their youth, exhausted by two such great wars, demanding generations just to recover.

But if they are finally recovering, then we can but hope they will cast off the foolishness and empty promises, and return to a path of prosperity and strength.


41 posted on 05/19/2013 8:16:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

You have a knife, and use it expansively. I am glad you are on this forum. Good deal, yefragetuwrabrumuy.


42 posted on 05/19/2013 8:33:34 AM PDT by RedHeeler
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: elcid1970
If a woman gives me grief, I employ “the worst insult you can inflict upon a woman”. I silently turn my back and walk away without looking back.

My wife tells me I should just shrug, smile, and say that I'm sorry for mistaking the offensive one for being a woman - it won't happen again. I love my wife...

43 posted on 05/19/2013 8:51:56 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: All

There’s something else I left out, that I think needs to be touched on here.

Along with the move to ‘normalize’ homosexual, transexual, and other behaviors, there was an aspect of it that gets mentioned too seldom.

When men were men, it was fairly easy to identify yourself sexually, and develop the behaviors that typified your gender.

Today that has become blurred.

There have been instances where young people have been challenged as to what their true orientation is. Kids, always trying to evolve into their proper role during the awkward years, are now being asked, “How do you know, unless you have experimented?”

This cannot be having a great impact on todays male youth who are evolving into manhood.


44 posted on 05/19/2013 12:58:02 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Thank you.


45 posted on 05/19/2013 12:58:29 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: knarf

Thanks Knarf.


46 posted on 05/19/2013 12:58:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: moose07

Figures..., and thank you.


47 posted on 05/19/2013 12:59:04 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: The Working Man

Thank you.


48 posted on 05/19/2013 12:59:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: ameribbean expat

Doesn’t surprise me. Sorry to hear it none the less. Thank you.


49 posted on 05/19/2013 12:59:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: MissMagnolia

Thanks for the response. I’m glad things are going well for your niece. The reason for it is clear isn’t it.

Great...


50 posted on 05/19/2013 1:01:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Before it's all over, Obama may demand extradition to Kenya, because he was born there...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-63 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson