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Obama Blames U.S., Repeats 90% Gun Lie In Mexico
Investor's Business Daily ^ | May 6, 2013 | IBD EDITORIALS

Posted on 05/06/2013 4:15:26 PM PDT by raptor22

Guns To Mexico: Once again blaming his own country for Mexico's gun violence without mentioning Fast and Furious, the gun runner in chief pledges to find and jail gun smugglers. Perhaps he should start with his own administration.

'We recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States. ... We'll keep increasing the pressure on the gun traffickers who bring illegal guns into Mexico, and we'll keep putting these criminals where they belong — behind bars," President Obama told students assembled at the Anthropology Museum in Mexico City on Friday, repeating a big lie he's said before.

Obama did not mention Fast and Furious, the administration's gunrunning operation into Mexico, which started in the fall of 2009 and ended in December 2010 only after Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was murdered in Arizona with one of the weapons we provided to the Mexican drug cartels.

Immigration Customs Enforcement Agent Jaime Zapata was also killed by Fast and Furious weapons, as have been hundreds of Mexican nationals.

The alleged purpose of the program was to track the guns along their path into Mexico and arrest the dealers, straw buyers and drug cartel members involved.

But testimony by ATF agents that they were ordered not to interdict the flow or make arrests exposed that rationale as a fraud.

We and others have suggested the purpose was to let the guns walk, let violence caused by this weapons spiral out of control, then exploit the carnage and violence to advance the president's gun control agenda, just as the president tried to do Friday by repeating his big lie.

Here's what House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa told the NRA's mid-April national convention in St. Louis in April 2012:

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico
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1 posted on 05/06/2013 4:15:26 PM PDT by raptor22
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To: raptor22

The 90% , is from the same guy that said they hate us for our YourTube


2 posted on 05/06/2013 4:16:59 PM PDT by NoLibZone (None here can be puzzled by why Jews walked into the cars so quietly- we are walking up the planks.)
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To: raptor22

When you consider the tens of thousands of M16s and M4s and other small arms that the State Department sold to the Mexican Army, many of which were later stolen and sold to the cartels, you might get to somewhere in the 50% range.


3 posted on 05/06/2013 4:18:29 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: raptor22
FAST AND FURIOUS.....POS lies like a cheap prayer rug
4 posted on 05/06/2013 4:20:02 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: raptor22

Bttt.


5 posted on 05/06/2013 4:21:01 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: raptor22

raptor22~:”(from the article) ‘We recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States. ... We’ll keep increasing the pressure on the gun traffickers who bring illegal guns into Mexico, and we’ll keep putting these criminals where they belong — behind bars,”

But not until Mexican citizens flee to the U.S. after our Govt. supplied weapons to the Drug Cartels,
and after our Attorney General completes his brainwashing of the populace on gun control.
against firearms , guns , weapons, and self defense


6 posted on 05/06/2013 4:21:49 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Political correctness is tyranny with manners." - Charlton Heston)
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To: raptor22

It’s a shame, really, that president hussein’s verbal bullsh*t isn’t the kind you can haul in a truck; American corn would be twenty feet high with so much fertilizer and the tomatoes would be the size of basketballs.


7 posted on 05/06/2013 4:24:22 PM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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8 posted on 05/06/2013 4:26:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: raptor22

From the moment I heard about the US guns being responsible for most gun violence in Mexico I knew it was BS. Also sounded to me like an answer to a question nobody asked.


9 posted on 05/06/2013 4:31:32 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

IBD EDITORIAL PING


10 posted on 05/06/2013 4:32:14 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

This is just the international version of the same lie that the ‘only reason Chicago has high rates of gun murder is because surrounding states don’t have the wonderful guns laws Chicago does’.


11 posted on 05/06/2013 4:35:12 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: raptor22

Didn’t Obama just tell the OSU graduating class \

“Unfortunately, you’ve grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s at the root of all our problems. Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works.”


12 posted on 05/06/2013 4:43:58 PM PDT by griswold3
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To: raptor22

IBD is a breath of fresh air in the media.


13 posted on 05/06/2013 4:47:48 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Grampa Dave; granite; GreenFreeper; grjr21; I got the rope; IchBinEinBerliner; jaredt112; JayB; ...

IBD EDITPRIAL PING


14 posted on 05/06/2013 4:47:57 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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There’s a worse quote where he seems to imply he supports the Mexican claim that the Gasden purchase and the settlement giving the US posession of our western states New Mexico, Arizona,Colorado,even California were wrong and the Mexicans have a legitimate beef.

I haven’t seen it here (FR’s) since I heard it. Can any FR fill US in. ?


15 posted on 05/06/2013 4:58:11 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: raptor22

I forget. Was it common American citizens, or was it Obama and Holders ATF who sent guns into Mexico? Pray Psalm 58 and 59 against Obama and his administration.


16 posted on 05/06/2013 5:02:52 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: raptor22

I believe we sold them a lot of pistols for their police forces, and those forces sold them to the cartels.


17 posted on 05/06/2013 5:13:53 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Still Thinking; StopGlobalWhining; Straight Vermonter; Tampa Caver; TChris; ...

IBD EDITORIAL PING


18 posted on 05/06/2013 5:31:57 PM PDT by raptor22 (Visit my blog at True Conservatives on Twitter: http://t.co/IKpP3cwq)
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Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

As we discussed in a previous analysis, the 90 percent number was derived from a June 2009 U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) report to Congress on U.S. efforts to combat arms trafficking to Mexico (see external link).

According to the GAO report, some 30,000 firearms were seized from criminals by Mexican authorities in 2008. Of these 30,000 firearms, information pertaining to 7,200 of them (24 percent) was submitted to the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) for tracing. Of these 7,200 guns, only about 4,000 could be traced by the ATF, and of these 4,000, some 3,480 (87 percent) were shown to have come from the United States. Mexico's Gun Supply and the 90 Percent Myth

This means that the 87 percent figure relates to the number of weapons submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF that could be successfully traced and not from the total number of weapons seized by Mexican authorities or even from the total number of weapons submitted to the ATF for tracing. In fact, the 3,480 guns positively traced to the United States equals less than 12 percent of the total arms seized in Mexico in 2008 and less than 48 percent of all those submitted by the Mexican government to the ATF for tracing. This means that almost 90 percent of the guns seized in Mexico in 2008 were not traced back to the United States.


19 posted on 05/06/2013 5:40:04 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: raptor22
since he never tells it, truth must burn like fire in the boy's mouth...
20 posted on 05/06/2013 5:42:17 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

21 posted on 05/06/2013 6:17:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
“We recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States.”

How about the machetes they use to chop each others heads off? Are we responsible for those, too?

22 posted on 05/07/2013 3:48:40 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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beef ~: “We recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States.”

How about the change to :
““We recognize that most of the guns used to commit violence here in Mexico come from the United States “Just-Us ” Department to encourage the descent of U.S. sovereignty”.
After all , a thoroughly taxed United States should provide entitlements, even into bankruptcy , to its less fortunate Southern neighbor. /sarc
Fearless Leader calls it : “Leveling the playing field”


23 posted on 05/07/2013 6:31:40 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ("Political correctness is tyranny with manners." - Charlton Heston)
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