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MSNBC Guest Casts Gun Debate As 'Enthusiasts' Vs. 'People Against Gun Violence'
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 04/13/2013 6:51:01 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Do you oppose President Obama's gun control proposals? Well then, you must not be against gun violence. So suggested a guest this morning on the new MSNBC show, Up With Steve Kornacki.

Leah Gunn Barrett [insert wisecrack on middle name here], of "New Yorkers Against Gun Violence," was trying to explain away why Second Amendment advocates do so well politically. According to her, gun "enthusiasts" are single-issue voters with good grassroots organization. In contrast, "people who are against gun violence" aren't as well organized.

View the video here.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; gunviolence; leahgunnbarrett; msnbc; newyork; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; secondamendment; stevekornacki

1 posted on 04/13/2013 6:51:02 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Senator Chuck Schumer already has a plan to nearly eliminate gun violence.

Approved individual trigger unlocking devices (ITUDs) in your approved firearms will match your chip. We'll be safe from gun violence at last!


2 posted on 04/13/2013 6:51:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Gee: I didn’t realize until I heard this MSNBC guest that if I’m opposed to Obama’s gun control proposals, I’m not against gun violence! Ping to Today show list.


3 posted on 04/13/2013 6:52:08 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I can’t speak for others, but this gun owner is against Government Tyranny.


4 posted on 04/13/2013 6:54:14 AM PDT by Howie66 (Molon Labe, Traitors!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

There are many reasons why Americans support the 2d Amendment.... there is only one reason why some don’t.... those who want Big Government


5 posted on 04/13/2013 6:56:52 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (GOP - Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

OK, I never knew the ACLU were gun enthusiasts. False comparisons and alternatives are the stock and trade of propagandists.


6 posted on 04/13/2013 6:57:25 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Howie66

I go out looking for the Hitler quote on guns. Couldn’t find it anywhere. No biggy since I am assuming the left spent many hours scrubbing every Hitler quote on the web.

So I find this site called “StraightDope”. Apparently they are also a left wing site and they went off on the NRA for manufacturing quotes. By the way, I have the over/under on when they are going to label me a troll and ban me from the site is 30 minutes. Anyone want in on the actions?

I had to chime in:

“Fake Hitler Quote


Good morning all, I have been perusing the web and couldn’t find the Hitler quote about gun control anywhere. The NRA’s insistence that the quote was attributed to Hitler is beyond belief.

However, in saying that, these quotes can be directly attributed to V.I. Lenin.

“One of the basic conditions for the victory of socialism is the arming of the workers and the disarming of the bourgeoisie (the middle class).”
— Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

“One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”
— Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

“A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.”
— Vladimir Ilyich Lenin

So to attribute the destruction of our second amendment rights to a fascist is incorrect. We need to attribute the destruction of our second amendment rights to a communist.

Now if we take Obama’s quotes in “Dreams of my Father”, his relationship with Bill Ayers and others from Chicago’s Marxist roots, his teaching of Saul Alinsky, Obama’s mentor, Frank Davis and other ties, could we safely assume that this is a gun grab to prevent Americans from arming themselves?

You want straight dope? This is straight dope. And what hurts more is it is the “Truth””


7 posted on 04/13/2013 6:58:51 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I love gun violence when it is committed in self defense of person, family and property. And gun violence is great when used against murderous, tyrannical governments. Yes there are times when gun violence is tragic and heartbreaking, but none of that equals the tragedy of helpless citizens confronted with criminal gangs, social collapse and leftist crazies. The good of gun violence far outweighs the bad.


8 posted on 04/13/2013 7:05:47 AM PDT by pallis
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

MSNBC and their thirteen remining viewers are very happy together.


9 posted on 04/13/2013 7:17:59 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

remaining viewers...


10 posted on 04/13/2013 7:20:41 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I am an enthusiast. As one of the 47% who are pro-freedom enthusiasts, I would like to remind the pro-socialism serfs against gun violence that they do not get a vote on our God-given rights.


11 posted on 04/13/2013 7:21:38 AM PDT by Pollster1 (A war can only be just if it is fought with a reasonable chance of success.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

***”New Yorkers Against Gun Violence,”***

Knife violence gets a pass? Baseball bat violence gets a pass?


12 posted on 04/13/2013 7:28:00 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (The murals in OKC are destroyed. The director and actors wept.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
“For the first time we now have full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the rest of the world will follow our lead into the future''.- Adolph Hitler, 1935.
13 posted on 04/13/2013 7:29:29 AM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Source it.


14 posted on 04/13/2013 8:07:23 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
It's people against democide versus people who can't wait to perpetrate democide.
15 posted on 04/13/2013 8:12:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth." --Alan Greenspan)
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To: pallis

Wonderful post! Thank you for reminding me why FR is great. I appreciate great feedback from those that still use intellect in today’s America.


16 posted on 04/13/2013 8:51:33 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Good post. I still can’t understand why this wasn’t viral in 2008, as if being a communist is not a bad thing anymore.

I also can’t understand why Obama isn’t identified as a communist. What would a communist do in his position that he isn’t now? What claims and views would a communist have that Obama hadn’t claimed? What background would a typical communist have that Obama hasn’t? (father, mother, friends, and associates, all communist)
And name one thing that Obama has or would do that a free market capitalist would...

Call it what it is... If it walks like a communist, quacks like a communist, and craps like a communist, then by every measure it must be our President.


17 posted on 04/13/2013 9:40:15 AM PDT by Wildbill22 (They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton Williams Abrams)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; All

What he did say, seven years later, was this: “The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so.” So it’s fair to conclude that he believed “gun control” had its uses.

http://propagandaprofessor.net/2011/09/26/the-myth-of-hitlers-gun-ban/


18 posted on 04/13/2013 10:48:56 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I agree. But the quote in the earlier post isn’t true. And we don’t quote things that aren’t accurately sources.

The left holds that against us and with a complicit media, we look bad.


19 posted on 04/13/2013 1:57:25 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks governsleastgovernsbest.


20 posted on 04/13/2013 2:44:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Speech to the Reichstag in Berlin April 15, 1935.
21 posted on 04/13/2013 8:04:47 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: jmacusa

Purported, not confirmed. I would believe it ti be true and the left are trying to deflect.


22 posted on 04/13/2013 8:36:30 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (The reason we own guns is to protect ourselves from those wanting to take our guns from us.)
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