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As Views Shift on Guns, Reid Corrals Senate
NY Times ^ | March 31, 2013 | JENNIFER STEINHAUER

Posted on 04/01/2013 12:04:35 PM PDT by neverdem

It was, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada ebulliently proclaimed, a “happy day for me” as he stood with Wayne LaPierre, the head of the National Rifle Association, in 2010 at a new shooting range in Las Vegas made possible by federal money secured by Mr. Reid. “People who criticize this probably would criticize baseball,” Mr. Reid said before firing off a few rounds.

These days, Mr. Reid, the Senate majority leader, is far more likely to meet with Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York, an outspoken advocate of stricter gun control, than with Mr. LaPierre as he prepares to bring the most expansive package of gun safety legislation in a decade to the Senate floor over the next few weeks.

Mr. Reid’s evolution from a proponent of gun rights to the shepherd of legislation that would expand background checks, among other gun control measures, emerges from a complex web of political calculations that have come to define his leadership style over the last decade.

How tenacious Mr. Reid is willing to be — and whether he will extract votes one by one as he has for other big pieces of legislation — may well determine the fate of the measures.

Mr. Reid declined to be interviewed but answered questions...

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Mr. Reid, aides said, is also motivated by both the personal angst he felt over the killing of 20 schoolchildren in Newtown, Conn., last year, as well as the anger he feels toward the N.R.A., which was widely expected to endorse him in his 2010 re-election campaign but then declined to do so.

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This conflict came to the fore during discussions of changing the filibuster rules; Mr. Reid ultimately chose an approach that placed fewer limitations on a minority party’s ability to filibuster than the newer members wanted...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
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To: MileHi

You’d think the Jim Zumbo debacle would have opened NRA’s eyes.


21 posted on 04/01/2013 12:36:21 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cyn

What people have to understand about the NRA is they are a one issue organization that has helped secure our rights in regards to the second amendment better than any other 2nd amendment rights organization out there. After Sandy Hook the MSM was not out attacking GOA were they? No, they were going after the NRA. That tells you all you need to know.

A Congressman can be a complete scumbag, but if they are right on all second amendment issues then they get an ‘A’. That’s the way it goes. The NRA announces ahead of votes whether they will be scoring them towards the NRA rating. Such as voting for Kagan and Sotemeyor. By following this path, they have helped to secure our rights. Without the NRA, I totally believe we would have an assault weapons ban, gun registration, high capacity magazine ban and who knows what else. The NRA is not perfect, but overall they are the best thing out there for protection of our second amendment rights.


22 posted on 04/01/2013 12:37:28 PM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden (t)
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To: mylife
You’d think so, but there are still board members who think five rounds is all we should be allowed.
23 posted on 04/01/2013 12:39:11 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Yeah, NRA is a target, but SAF and GOA do good work.


24 posted on 04/01/2013 12:40:48 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TigersEye

Another thing that’s changed is the amount gun organizations from manufactures to the Outdoor Channel are willing to punish anti 2A groups.


25 posted on 04/01/2013 12:41:34 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: ObozoMustGo2012
Probably putting the final touches on another “false flag” shooting in hopes of snapping the public’s attention back to demanding gun control, while stripping every other right we have while distracted.

I predict that this post of yours at #6 of this thread will go down in FR history alongside the comment by "lowbridge" that got the ball rolling on the Dan Rather "evidence" that GWB never served.

Watch the news. It's a comin'. I can feel it.

26 posted on 04/01/2013 12:43:04 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (For me, I plan to die standing as a free man rather than spend one second on my knees as a slave.)
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To: MileHi

BAhh!
And there are some board members that think 500 hp cars are unnecessary.

Andrew Coumo cracks me up with his thinking

“You don’t NEED a 30 round mag to hunt deer!!!”

Yo Andy, You don’t “Need” 15 muscle cars.

But I say it is your “Right” to own them.


27 posted on 04/01/2013 12:44:47 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BO Stinkss
Was listening to Rush on the way home from work when he took an obscene profits timeout. What followed was a commercial with some guy talking about how he hunts and has taught his kids to hunt blah blah blah. He ended by saying he supports the 2A but to keep guns out of the hands of criminals or mental deficients we need to have expanded background checks. Then he said he was Dan Coats, Senator from Indiana and call his number to show support for enhanced background checks.

Another RINO who will vote in Reid/ Obama camp

28 posted on 04/01/2013 12:45:36 PM PDT by DaiHuy (May God save the country, for it is evident the people will not! Millard Fillmore)
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To: neverdem
Hairy Reed...blowin' in the wind. Anything for a buck. Bloomberg has the bigger checkbook this time.
29 posted on 04/01/2013 12:57:04 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: DaiHuy

Did you happen to get the number? I’d like to share my views on that issue with Senator Coats.


30 posted on 04/01/2013 1:11:18 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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>> Mr. Reid, aides said, is also motivated by both the personal angst he felt over the killing of 20 schoolchildren in Newtown, Conn

A horrific crime indeed representing less than 0.00004% of the noobs killed through abortion.

Outlaw forceps.


31 posted on 04/01/2013 1:23:18 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: neverdem
If you want to win an issue, you need to make it non partisan. That is why the NRA has reached out to Democrats. You make it a 100% partisan issue, you will loose.

Look at abortion.

32 posted on 04/01/2013 1:25:40 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: neverdem

obama “evolves” and all the democrats evolve with him.


33 posted on 04/01/2013 1:26:09 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
After Aurora and before Sandyhook, I and others said “The next one will be kids”.
34 posted on 04/01/2013 1:28:38 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
Look at abortion.

I have been looking at polls on abortion. It's breaking prolife, especially among young voters. Ditto the 2nd Amendment.

35 posted on 04/01/2013 1:35:01 PM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: Lazamataz

Ba Bump


36 posted on 04/01/2013 1:51:55 PM PDT by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: BO Stinkss

It’s the New York Times. It’s the left of the left of the left.


37 posted on 04/01/2013 2:13:56 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: neverdem

My mistake.......I didn’t read the WHOLE thing..


38 posted on 04/01/2013 3:53:14 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: neverdem

Just a little more horse sh*t from America’s premier birdcage liner.


39 posted on 04/01/2013 4:22:55 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: neverdem

I have seen those same polls, but you have to remember a few things.

First, I haven’t see the real “meat” of those polls. How, where, and how often where they taken? What where the questions? Etc. There are polls that show the exact opposite (more young people are pro abortion and anti gun).

Second, young people don’t vote. The current political class doesn’t care much about young voters, because the age group of 18 to mid 20’s don’t vote much.

Third. Even if they poll is correct, and this group is voting. They are voting Democrat by a wide margin. So no matter what their personal beliefs and values are, they are voting for those who do not share that belief on those issues.

Now in 20 or 30 years things might shift as these people becoming a bigger active voting block, and the boomers die off. And they as a group might totally change their views.

In short, the polls are nice, but just window dressing.


40 posted on 04/01/2013 4:52:29 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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