Skip to comments.As Views Shift on Guns, Reid Corrals Senate
Posted on 04/01/2013 12:04:35 PM PDT by neverdem
It was, Senator Harry Reid of Nevada ebulliently proclaimed, a happy day for me as he stood with Wayne LaPierre, the head of the National Rifle Association, in 2010 at a new shooting range in Las Vegas made possible by federal money secured by Mr. Reid. People who criticize this probably would criticize baseball, Mr. Reid said before firing off a few rounds.
These days, Mr. Reid, the Senate majority leader, is far more likely to meet with Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York, an outspoken advocate of stricter gun control, than with Mr. LaPierre as he prepares to bring the most expansive package of gun safety legislation in a decade to the Senate floor over the next few weeks.
Mr. Reids evolution from a proponent of gun rights to the shepherd of legislation that would expand background checks, among other gun control measures, emerges from a complex web of political calculations that have come to define his leadership style over the last decade.
How tenacious Mr. Reid is willing to be and whether he will extract votes one by one as he has for other big pieces of legislation may well determine the fate of the measures.
Mr. Reid declined to be interviewed but answered questions...
Mr. Reid, aides said, is also motivated by both the personal angst he felt over the killing of 20 schoolchildren in Newtown, Conn., last year, as well as the anger he feels toward the N.R.A., which was widely expected to endorse him in his 2010 re-election campaign but then declined to do so.
This conflict came to the fore during discussions of changing the filibuster rules; Mr. Reid ultimately chose an approach that placed fewer limitations on a minority partys ability to filibuster than the newer members wanted...
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Yet another example of why the NRA ‘A’ rating needs to be taken with a grain of saltpeter.
This is a joke, right?
> “Mr. Reid, aides said, is also motivated by ... the anger he feels toward the N.R.A., which was widely expected to endorse him in his 2010 re-election campaign but then declined to do so.”
There are still a lot of people around here who have repeatedly stated that the NRA *DID* endorse him.
And, I sit here this afternoon at my computer refurbishing a dozen 30 round AR-15 magazines with new Stoner Springs and Followers and adding the MagPul Ranger Plates....
This should update all the ones that I have that are 94 preban and should go nicely with the others I have bought since 2004....come and get them..
Probably putting the final touches on another “false flag” shooting in hopes of snapping the public’s attention back to demanding gun control, while stripping every other right we have while distracted.
I tend to support the SAF.
As Lies Are Imbedded In NYT Headlines, The Public Rolls Their Eyes
made NO difference what the NRA or any other group did.
Reid is a product of the Las Vegas mob and would have been declared the victor regarddless the true vote.
The Dem/libs have been engaging in a steady push to infringe on our right to keep and bear arms for decades. And this is how it has been working out for them in the last two decades...
And in the last two months... (Dec. 2012 and Jan. 2013)
MOLON LAVE! WE'LL BUY MORE. ;-)
What's so "complex" about "what's in it for me?"
All these aholes need to understand is “Shall Not Be Infringed”
They flirted with it to the very end, backing away after people like me raised hell about it. They also endorsed two dems in my state that year, thus ending my thirty-odd year membership.
Sorry to offend you, I am by no means a “basher”, nonmember, or nonsupporter. I did not mean to imply Reid himself got the rating (though it certainly has with others in my experience; I called the NRA years ago to clarify their use). But Reid certainly leaped at the chance to be shown with LaPierre and to try to get some shine from the NRA imprimatur. Those taken in by it are the ones who concern me.
The NRA flirts with the notion of rules that make it so Only the well to do can own guns.
SAF says We All have the right to self preservation.
I think the guy in the singlewide has the same rights as the fellow that lives in a mansion on the hill.
No. What did you think was a joke?
You’d think the Jim Zumbo debacle would have opened NRA’s eyes.
What people have to understand about the NRA is they are a one issue organization that has helped secure our rights in regards to the second amendment better than any other 2nd amendment rights organization out there. After Sandy Hook the MSM was not out attacking GOA were they? No, they were going after the NRA. That tells you all you need to know.
A Congressman can be a complete scumbag, but if they are right on all second amendment issues then they get an ‘A’. That’s the way it goes. The NRA announces ahead of votes whether they will be scoring them towards the NRA rating. Such as voting for Kagan and Sotemeyor. By following this path, they have helped to secure our rights. Without the NRA, I totally believe we would have an assault weapons ban, gun registration, high capacity magazine ban and who knows what else. The NRA is not perfect, but overall they are the best thing out there for protection of our second amendment rights.
Yeah, NRA is a target, but SAF and GOA do good work.
Another thing that’s changed is the amount gun organizations from manufactures to the Outdoor Channel are willing to punish anti 2A groups.
I predict that this post of yours at #6 of this thread will go down in FR history alongside the comment by "lowbridge" that got the ball rolling on the Dan Rather "evidence" that GWB never served.
Watch the news. It's a comin'. I can feel it.
And there are some board members that think 500 hp cars are unnecessary.
Andrew Coumo cracks me up with his thinking
“You don’t NEED a 30 round mag to hunt deer!!!”
Yo Andy, You don’t “Need” 15 muscle cars.
But I say it is your “Right” to own them.
Another RINO who will vote in Reid/ Obama camp
Did you happen to get the number? I’d like to share my views on that issue with Senator Coats.
>> Mr. Reid, aides said, is also motivated by both the personal angst he felt over the killing of 20 schoolchildren in Newtown, Conn
A horrific crime indeed representing less than 0.00004% of the noobs killed through abortion.
Look at abortion.
obama “evolves” and all the democrats evolve with him.
I have been looking at polls on abortion. It's breaking prolife, especially among young voters. Ditto the 2nd Amendment.
It’s the New York Times. It’s the left of the left of the left.
My mistake.......I didn’t read the WHOLE thing..
Just a little more horse sh*t from America’s premier birdcage liner.
I have seen those same polls, but you have to remember a few things.
First, I haven’t see the real “meat” of those polls. How, where, and how often where they taken? What where the questions? Etc. There are polls that show the exact opposite (more young people are pro abortion and anti gun).
Second, young people don’t vote. The current political class doesn’t care much about young voters, because the age group of 18 to mid 20’s don’t vote much.
Third. Even if they poll is correct, and this group is voting. They are voting Democrat by a wide margin. So no matter what their personal beliefs and values are, they are voting for those who do not share that belief on those issues.
Now in 20 or 30 years things might shift as these people becoming a bigger active voting block, and the boomers die off. And they as a group might totally change their views.
In short, the polls are nice, but just window dressing.
Meanwhile the CO2 emissions from las vegas are the greatest per square foot of deleterious, superfluous energy waste.
Any specific polls? I along with many of my friends in the say 20-30y/o range are much more pro-2a than I thought. If not outright pro-2a, the rest are not anti gun like Cuomo, Bloomberg, etc. and have asked intelligent questions about firearms.
After Sandy Hook one in particular, who attends a community college in a city with a history of violent crimes, gang violence and shootings realized the campus police force was UNARMED. They asked why and never got a good answer, except that city cops know that in the event they were called to a active shooter incident.
Yes, the pre 1994 ones I have were lost in the Mail for the past twenty years and mysteriously showed up last week.
I guess they found them where that Postal Worker buried them in his backyard with the rest of his deliveries.
What are the odds?
Rats didn't make a peep about gun grabbing for years until Newtown. That was part of the plan to take Congress in 2006. They didn't recruit from their moonbat wing. They ran bluedogs, etc.
Did you see the polls today that said “most people want a gun ban?” It was on the MSN home page.
A poll can be made to say what ever youb want it to.
You’re very confused.
I live in Indiana and have heard this Bloomberg financed commercial dozens of times.
The idiot announcer is TELLING YOU TO CALL Sen Dan Coats and support gun legislation.
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