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Let's Build Our Own Ammo Factory!
3/28/2013 | Self

Posted on 03/28/2013 11:20:53 AM PDT by catnipman

There's essentially NO ammo available for retail sale in Colorado. None at all. Not in popular calibers like 9mm, .40 S&W and .45ACP.

The fascist Obammunists have locked up the domestic supply and are shutting down imports.

Why the hell don’t we conservatives set up a NEW ammo manufacturer in Texas and then refuse to sell to the FedGov. Maybe even make it a co-op, with member-owners getting first dibs on production.

I’m sure we could get any number of offshore companies to build us a turnkey ammo factory in Texas. I’m sure ammo companies in Italy, China, Korea, Israel, Hungary, or the Czech Republic would be delighted to do this. I bet it could be done for under 50 million. I'm sure a few of us have contacts with a few people, who together, could easily come up with amount of money.

Right now, 9mm ammo impossible to buy in Colorado, so I’d start there.


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1 posted on 03/28/2013 11:20:53 AM PDT by catnipman
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To: catnipman

One of the big bottlenecks in the supply chain is primers. Another manufacturer would need to deal with that problem, especially as it is due to shortages of core chemicals.


2 posted on 03/28/2013 11:22:58 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: catnipman
Where will you get components?
3 posted on 03/28/2013 11:23:09 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: catnipman

If we all recycle brass objects from our homes (brass nick-nacks are all over a relative’s house), and turn in our mercury thermometers (for fulminate primers) and tire weights, we could do it.


4 posted on 03/28/2013 11:24:52 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: catnipman

I went to a couple of places recently in Georgia. At a high-volume gun store (with 25 people waiting at the front door when it opened), there was only shotgun shells, Russian 7.62x54R and little else. At a major sporting goods store which usually has *everything*, there were lots of shotgun shells, a pretty good selection of hunting rifle calibers, and almost no handgun ammo. Neither of them had any .22s.


5 posted on 03/28/2013 11:25:48 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: catnipman

It’s not a bad idea and although nothing is guaranteed, this does have a good chance for a reasonable Return on Investment. If you do go ahead with studying the issue please be sure to let us know what you find out.


6 posted on 03/28/2013 11:29:50 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Sender

The .22 ammo bubble is peaking


7 posted on 03/28/2013 11:30:49 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....The fairest Deduction to be reduced is the Standard Deduction)
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To: catnipman
No need for a co-op.

If you can manufacture ammo below the going rate, do it.

If you don't know the first thing about manufacturing ammo, good luck.

8 posted on 03/28/2013 11:30:55 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: catnipman

Put me down for co-op ownership participation. Make a Great Day!


9 posted on 03/28/2013 11:31:10 AM PDT by The Miler
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To: The Working Man; catnipman

I agree sounds like a good investment.


10 posted on 03/28/2013 11:31:15 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: catnipman

There are about 10B rounds of ammo sold annually in the US (I googled it), and DHS bought contracts for over a billion over the next five years, so the vast majority of the ammo is being bought up by people like you and me.


11 posted on 03/28/2013 11:33:39 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: catnipman

Am not dissing Texas in this post (everyone). Recommend Tennessee for plant location near I-40. When the refugees flood over from south of the border once the war goes full hot south of the border, and no doubt the war south of the border grows hotter with each passing day. By being located in Tennessee will give a little more time to protect the production line and continue ammo production. Will need that time. Tennessee is known as the Volunteer State. There will be plenty of help available to protect the production line.


12 posted on 03/28/2013 11:34:24 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: DBrow

Mercury is no longer used in primers. They will use the mercury for squiggly light bulbs to break and spew mercury in the nursery. New tire weights are using zinc.


13 posted on 03/28/2013 11:35:04 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: Sender
I agree with you on the shortages. However, since I have a very accurate Mosin-Nagant M44, I am loading up on 7.62 X 54. Right now it is cheaper than reloanding. So.....
Every trip to Sportsman's Warehouse I grab a box or 2 or 3 or so depending on how many I can get the cashier to let me have.
Good round and a accurate rifle could keep food on the table if TSHTF. If not, what the heck it is fun to shoot.
14 posted on 03/28/2013 11:35:20 AM PDT by Tupelo (Old, Bald, Ugly, Fat and Broke in Arizona)
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To: catnipman
Is this your own version of let's start a militia and invite the ATF thread?

Excuse me officer, but I bought tickets to your association fundraiser.

15 posted on 03/28/2013 11:35:54 AM PDT by STD ( Intellectuals, they are a wrecking crew, dismantling civilization)
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To: Cyber Liberty

That’s what I’m thinking.

“There’s a .22 lr shortage, so whenever it appears on the shelf, I better buy what I can!”

Wow... can’t seem to find any .22 lr on the shelf for some reason...


16 posted on 03/28/2013 11:37:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: STD

Sounds a little more like Spanky or Alfalfa jumping up and saying “Hey I know, let’s put on a show!”


17 posted on 03/28/2013 11:40:48 AM PDT by papertyger (Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be broken....)
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To: catnipman

I want a Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.


18 posted on 03/28/2013 11:43:13 AM PDT by Perdogg (Sen Ted Cruz, Sen Mike Lee, and Sen Rand Paul are my adoptive Senators)
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To: catnipman

Munitions factories are subject to federal licensing. If the feds don’t want you to open another ammo factory... good luck with that.


19 posted on 03/28/2013 11:43:37 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: catnipman

Find out where Magpul is moving and locate there. Then make lots of 5.56 Nato.


20 posted on 03/28/2013 11:46:59 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: MileHi
Where will you get components?

Texas has lots of chemical plants. the only worry would be the metals.

21 posted on 03/28/2013 11:49:28 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Sender

http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?category=3

I never have any problem finding any ammo I want.


22 posted on 03/28/2013 11:49:50 AM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Beagle8U

I take it you don’t want 22 LR

http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?contentId=ammoGroup&ammoGroup=4&searchBy=size&ammoSize=196&category=3&startRow=1&outOfStock=1&orderBy=

Out
Out
Out
Out
Out...


23 posted on 03/28/2013 11:52:44 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Beagle8U

Or 9mm

http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?contentId=ammoGroup&ammoGroup=2&searchBy=size&ammoSize=349&category=3&outOfStock=0&orderBy=


24 posted on 03/28/2013 11:54:08 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: catnipman
There's essentially NO ammo available for retail sale in Colorado

Or the other 49 states.

25 posted on 03/28/2013 12:04:56 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Perdogg
I want a Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range.

Hey, just what you see, pal.

26 posted on 03/28/2013 12:06:10 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Beagle8U

“I never have any problem finding any ammo I want.”

natchezss is sold out of 9mm.

http://www.natchezss.com/ammo.cfm?contentId=ammoGroup&ammoGroup=2&searchBy=size&ammoSize=349&category=3


27 posted on 03/28/2013 12:06:47 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Cold Heart

“Mercury is no longer used in primers.”

True, but if you had to make your own, mercury fulminate is easier to make than alternatives.


28 posted on 03/28/2013 12:07:26 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: MileHi

“Where will you get components?”

Make em. “Turnkey” factory.


29 posted on 03/28/2013 12:08:18 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: no-to-illegals

I like Tennessee too! But I was also thinking locating in Mike Dillon’s neighborhood could be synergistic.


30 posted on 03/28/2013 12:09:29 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: catnipman
Lot to learn, drawing brass and making bullets, powder and primers.
31 posted on 03/28/2013 12:10:50 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: catnipman

I like that idea, but the location in TX would have to be carefully chosen. In or near a big city or college town where the progressives have achieved public office you might never get approvals for the facility.


32 posted on 03/28/2013 12:11:04 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Beagle8U

“I never have any problem finding any ammo I want.”

Your sentence should have started out “Six months ago I never had . . .”

Natchez is just like everywhere else, not much of anything in stock. FYI - Lucky Gunner has some stock at the new and improved pricing.


33 posted on 03/28/2013 12:11:13 PM PDT by zagger
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To: papertyger

“Sounds a little more like Spanky or Alfalfa jumping up and saying “Hey I know, let’s put on a show!””

It may sound like to you. But I’m serious. I think there’s money to be made. And also, I’m sick of a nation of sheeple who sit around and let their fascist government push them around. And that includes lots of the good conservatives who post here and then do little to alter outcomes.


34 posted on 03/28/2013 12:11:43 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Tupelo

I like the Moisin Nagant. I have an M39 which was rebarrelled and restocked in Finland, and it shoots great. There is nothing wrong with shooting that old corrosive commie ammo as long as you clean it afterwards. There is also nothing wrong with getting a can full of 440 rounds of high powered rifle ammo cheap, in the middle of a shortage.


35 posted on 03/28/2013 12:14:49 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: STD
And also, I’m sick of a nation of sheeple who sit around and let their fascist government push them around. And that includes lots of the good conservatives who post here and then do little to alter outcomes.

You might be right!

36 posted on 03/28/2013 12:16:21 PM PDT by papertyger (Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be broken....)
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To: DBrow

I’ll let you take care of the fulminate of lead (what is currently used in most primers) at your place. Toxic, touchy and dangerous to deal with on an industrial basis.


37 posted on 03/28/2013 12:17:07 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Tupelo

You make my shoulder hurt..Really a great old gun, and has proved it’s self many times over...


38 posted on 03/28/2013 12:20:29 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy,,, other times I just let her sleep.)
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To: thackney

I just checked for the 40 cal SW

There does seem to be a serious shortage of 22 LR online.

The local walmart had plenty a couple days ago when I was there.


39 posted on 03/28/2013 12:23:48 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: catnipman

They do have 40 cal SW


40 posted on 03/28/2013 12:24:57 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Tupelo
As a matter of fact, several years ago we had a "virtual shooting match" on FR when someone volunteered to be the focal point and mailed paper targets to interested participants. We all put them out at 100 yards on the honor system and fired our groups, then mailed the targets back to the person who started it. He then posted the results.

I used my M39 and questionable eyes/glasses, with Wolf ammo.

41 posted on 03/28/2013 12:25:58 PM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be who you could have been.)
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To: Beagle8U

Just checked your website for primers, All Out. Sorry.


42 posted on 03/28/2013 12:27:21 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy,,, other times I just let her sleep.)
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To: BooBoo1000
I get my primers from the primer store 1 mile away...wholesale.

Buddy of mine keeps XX 1000’s in his store room.

Just large rifle and shotgun primers though.

43 posted on 03/28/2013 12:32:46 PM PDT by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: catnipman

You had me until the....”fifty million”. I presumed that was dollars.


44 posted on 03/28/2013 12:37:44 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (')
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To: Cold Heart

Zinc makes a great bullet! Hard, self lubricating, and consistent. Not sure how easy to cast, but never wanted to get into rolling my own slugs......may have to rethink that one.


45 posted on 03/28/2013 12:39:41 PM PDT by petro45acp (No good endeavour survives an excess of adult supervision)
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To: Perdogg

“....only what ya see pal...”


46 posted on 03/28/2013 12:40:19 PM PDT by petro45acp (No good endeavour survives an excess of adult supervision)
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To: dangerdoc

I just found this formula for percussion caps. No lead, but it does have antimony. The interesting thing here is that you cam make potassium chlorate much easier than you can make a fulminate.

17 grains of Potassium Chlorate
9 grains of Antimony Sulfide
3 grains of the Sulfur/Sodium Bicarbonate powder
4 grains of fine sand (passes through a 40-mesh screen).


47 posted on 03/28/2013 12:40:32 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: catnipman

All I can donate is computer skill.


48 posted on 03/28/2013 12:41:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: Lazamataz

Here’s a customer!!!

Please put me on the mailing list.


49 posted on 03/28/2013 12:43:10 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Got a letter from Gov. Palin in reply to my Dad sending her my picture from a TEA party rally.)
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To: petro45acp
If you do it right, you can cast a lot of heavy bullets for 44 or 45 cal.I cast all of my 44 specials, with a semi wad cutter.
50 posted on 03/28/2013 12:44:42 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 (Some times I wake up grumpy,,, other times I just let her sleep.)
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