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Hundreds of family pets, protected species killed by little known federal agency
Fox News ^ | March 13, 2013 | Cristina Corbin

Posted on 03/14/2013 12:51:06 PM PDT by grundle

Over the years, Wildlife Services has killed thousands of non-target animals in several states – from pet dogs to protected species – caught in body-gripping conibear traps and leg hold snares, or poisoned by lethal M-44 devices that explode sodium cyanide capsules when triggered by a wild animal – or the snout of a curious family pet.

The McCurtains, like many other families, were never informed that such deadly devices were placed so close to their home in grass near the edge of a pond where their young son kicks his soccer ball and their daughter catches turtles.

The traps, set on communal property owned by the neighborhood association, were meant to kill an infestation of nutria, rat-like pests that pose no danger to people but can be harmful to the environment. The only warning sign was a small placard in the grass that identified the device as government property and cautioned against tampering with it. The neighborhood association told the McCurtains it never would have approved such traps had it known they were so deadly.

"It’s unconscionable that anybody with an ounce of common sense would set these traps in an area frequented by the public and their pets," said Brooks Fahy, executive director of Predator Defense, a national watchdog group that advocates non-lethal predator control.

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KEYWORDS: doggieping; fascists; govtabuse; kittyping
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1 posted on 03/14/2013 12:51:06 PM PDT by grundle
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To: grundle
the neighborhood association

That's where most problems begin.

2 posted on 03/14/2013 12:54:42 PM PDT by bgill
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To: grundle
"It’s unconscionable that anybody with an ounce of common sense would set these traps in an area frequented by the public and their pets," said Brooks Fahy, executive director of Predator Defense, a national watchdog group that advocates non-lethal predator control.

well that's true but we're talking about the government so all arguments about rational thinking and common sense are invalid.

3 posted on 03/14/2013 12:55:07 PM PDT by pgkdan ( "Those who hammer their guns into plows will plow for those who do not." ~Thomas Jefferson)
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To: grundle

OMG.


4 posted on 03/14/2013 12:55:54 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: grundle

I could say something about vacations and locations, but prudence dictates that I should not.


5 posted on 03/14/2013 12:57:53 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: grundle; Joe 6-pack; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; ...
"Hi! I'm from the government, and I'm here to help you!"


6 posted on 03/14/2013 1:00:23 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: pgkdan

Proving once again, Pres. Reagan was right. “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.” And there are those who believe in trusting this gov’t to determine who’s mentally fit to be privileged to own firearms? Be afraid. Be very afraid.


7 posted on 03/14/2013 1:01:11 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: bgill

Absolutely true-and a big part of why I choose to live in BF Egypt...


8 posted on 03/14/2013 1:17:14 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: bgill

Then don’t move into one. They serve a purpose.


9 posted on 03/14/2013 1:22:35 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: grundle

That organization LOVES to kill things....they are the same idiots who blame cats for the bird population. All morons who love to kill things.


10 posted on 03/14/2013 1:24:44 PM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters

ping


11 posted on 03/14/2013 1:28:30 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: grundle

Just be glad they’re not using weaponized drones!

Mark


12 posted on 03/14/2013 1:47:41 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: bgill

Boy is it ever.


13 posted on 03/14/2013 1:51:08 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: bgill

One of the local TV cannels has a segment called, “The HOA Hall of Shame,” and about every 10 days, there is another HOA in the valley that is held to account by the public.

I love it. It has uncovered so much BS. I would never want to live in HOA-controlled property.


14 posted on 03/14/2013 1:54:58 PM PDT by Monkey Face (In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in water there is bacteria. ~ Ben Franklin)
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To: AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; SandRat; arbooz; potlatch; afraidfortherepublic; ...
WOOOF!

Computer Hope

The Doggie Ping list is for FReepers who would like to be notified of threads relating to all things canid. If you would like to join the Doggie Ping Pack (or be unleashed from it), FReemail me.

15 posted on 03/14/2013 4:06:48 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: bgill

Exactly right.


16 posted on 03/14/2013 4:10:42 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Fawn
They serve a purpose.

******************************

To kill family pets?

17 posted on 03/14/2013 4:12:07 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

If cats had been killed, she’d be pitching a fit but it’s just dead dogs so she’s all for it.


18 posted on 03/14/2013 4:33:17 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Salamander

I’d bet money on that.


19 posted on 03/14/2013 4:40:15 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

I’m sure cats were killed too.

[probably ~many~ more than dogs as there are so many more running loose, overall but since they’re so easily buried they simply didn’t get reported]

I don’t like cats but the thought of them being slaughtered like this infuriates me.

The government has gone rogue in all respects.

It truly has become “us against them”.


20 posted on 03/14/2013 4:59:16 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Salamander
I'm sure that there were cats killed.

I once lived in a condo, and had to live according to HOA policies. It was hideous, and did nothing but reinforce my desire for liberty.

I don't know why they didn't use live traps. Nutria make the most expensive and desirable fur coats.

21 posted on 03/14/2013 5:04:23 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

She should Google ‘cats in leg traps’.

Maybe she’d love the idea a little less.


22 posted on 03/14/2013 5:05:50 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Fawn
You are on record to being an animal rights activist here.

Yet you have no problem with this...!

Your little feral cats getting snuffed out doesn't bother you if you've signed some sort of property agreement??

Excellent.

23 posted on 03/14/2013 5:06:54 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Life is a bitch. If it was easy, we would call it a slut)
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To: trisham

Live traps cost $50+ each.

Snap traps are much cheaper and you don’t have to worry about getting the animal out ASAP.

So what if it tortures the beast to death?

/s


24 posted on 03/14/2013 5:09:33 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Osage Orange

Cats are not the problem.

It’s BIRDS!

Horrible, evil, murderous BIRDS!

Seriously.

/facepalm


25 posted on 03/14/2013 5:12:12 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: grundle

Harm my dog and you’re toast.


26 posted on 03/14/2013 5:24:23 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Salamander

Well, *cough*, Hi there!

:)


27 posted on 03/14/2013 5:29:27 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: bgill

Read the article. This has nothing to do with associations. This has to do with a little-known, relatively unregulated federal bureaucracy that’s putting not just fido but your children at risk. If you frequent public parks, wildlife preserves, or state and national forests, this affects you.

To boot, they use conibear traps. Look it up. They are sufficiently cruel and do not necessarily kill when sprung. They are designed to crush an animal’s windpipe or otherwise asphyxiate it. This poor woman’s family pet’s neck was broken by one of these.

I did not, however, read if the dog made it out of the ordeal okay, but by the tone of the article, I would guess it did not. Very sad. This story will haunt me for days.


28 posted on 03/14/2013 5:40:34 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

I’m sorry, I’ve read so much in response to this article that I confused myself. This woman’s collie was killed, but there are instances of dog’s living, albeit maimed, and even instructions on how to free yourself or a pet from one of these traps should they or you find yourself trapped in one.


29 posted on 03/14/2013 5:42:56 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Salamander; Fawn
I'd like fawn to reply here..........

So, fawn what's your response?

30 posted on 03/14/2013 5:51:53 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Life is a bitch. If it was easy, we would call it a slut)
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To: Brad's Gramma

31 posted on 03/14/2013 6:14:25 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Osage Orange

If she Googled cats in traps like I did, she’s probably somewhere throwing up.

It was -bad-.


32 posted on 03/14/2013 6:16:08 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Osage Orange

Just read your tagline.

LOLOL


33 posted on 03/14/2013 6:17:15 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Salamander

Nice teeth!! What breed of dog is that?

:)


34 posted on 03/14/2013 6:24:41 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Chihuahua.


35 posted on 03/14/2013 6:25:44 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Salamander

Ahhhhh.... I see.

Thanks!


36 posted on 03/14/2013 6:26:22 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

;D


37 posted on 03/14/2013 6:27:29 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Salamander

I’m cleaning. Leave me alone.

See me vacuum?? SEE ME?


38 posted on 03/14/2013 6:29:16 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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Later


39 posted on 03/14/2013 6:37:06 PM PDT by momto6
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To: Salamander

Ya know what’s REALLY annoying?

Having a supervisor when you’re cleaning.

THAT is SO full of sarcasm I hope you’re wearing boots....


40 posted on 03/14/2013 6:43:46 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

And it’s not even morning, yet.

;D


41 posted on 03/14/2013 6:47:51 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Salamander

LOL!!!

Yes, he got The Look, along with a few critical barbs....


42 posted on 03/14/2013 6:58:10 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Salamander
I hope that the publicity from this forces them to discontinue this policy, and I would think that at least one pet owner might have sued by now.

It's horrible.

43 posted on 03/14/2013 7:09:16 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Isn’t there some kind of law where the fedgov can’t be sued by citizens?


44 posted on 03/14/2013 8:11:17 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I feel yer pain.

:)

[though I’d substitute “old buzzard hanging over my shoulder” for “supervisor”]


45 posted on 03/14/2013 8:12:28 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Salamander

I WAS trying to be polite, you know.


46 posted on 03/14/2013 8:16:25 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I’m too old and tired for “polite”....;)


47 posted on 03/14/2013 9:03:09 PM PDT by Salamander (We're all kinds of animals comin' round here...occasional demons, too.)
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To: Salamander

No no! I was being polite on FR! Not in real life, no no no way Jose!


48 posted on 03/14/2013 9:15:54 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Salamander

Soverign imunity.

The Federal Tort Claims act allows you to sue federal employees acting within their official duties.

As you might expect, you, the private citizen, have to jump through a lot of hoops to do that much.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/suing-government-negligence-FTCA-29705.html


49 posted on 03/14/2013 9:38:07 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Salamander

I’m not sure how that works, but unhappy pet owners might be able to sue the HOA.


50 posted on 03/15/2013 11:31:47 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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