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Psychiatrists to brand grief lasting longer than two weeks a mental illness
news.com.au ^ | 22 Feb 13 | Clifford Fram

Posted on 02/23/2013 10:54:26 AM PST by Drew68

THE grieving process is in danger of being branded a medical condition if a mourner feels sad for more than two weeks and consults a GP, according to an international authority on death and dying.

At present, mourners can feel sad for two months before being told they have a mental disorder, says Professor Dale Larson. Decades ago, a diagnosis could be made after a year.

In a keynote address at an Australian Psychological Society conference in Melbourne on Saturday, Prof Larson will express his anger about the American Psychiatric Association's new diagnostic manual, DSM 5, which is used in many countries including Australia and New Zealand.

The manual, to be published in May, allows a diagnosis of depression after two weeks of grieving.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.com.au ...


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KEYWORDS: apa; depression; disorders; dsm; grief; mentaldisorder; mentalillness; mourning; mourningperiod; psychiatry; psychology; youmakebunnycry
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Emphasis mine. Sure the source may be Australian but it looks like this will apply to us as well. Now why on earth would American psychiatrists wish to see more people classified with mental disorders? Hmm... I can think of a few reasons.

Anyways, stepping out for a little while so don't think I just posted and ran.

1 posted on 02/23/2013 10:54:32 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Woo-hoo !

Permanent Govt. disability cheque !

Jackpot !


2 posted on 02/23/2013 10:57:27 AM PST by Para-Ord.45
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To: Drew68

So much the merrier for the medics and pharmaceutical companies.


3 posted on 02/23/2013 10:58:03 AM PST by PapaNew
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To: Drew68

And, not too shocking that The Culture of Death would want us all to get over deaths as quickly as possible.


4 posted on 02/23/2013 10:59:27 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: Drew68

See a Priest, get religion, pray.

Forget the shrink.!

He will ask you “How does that make you feel?”, charge huge fees for continuous visits, put you on mind altering meeds, and take your guns.


5 posted on 02/23/2013 11:00:31 AM PST by G Larry
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To: Drew68; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
(Do I have to say it?!)


6 posted on 02/23/2013 11:01:35 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Drew68

Fresh pickings from the “Get over it, you jackwagon.” School of Psychotherapy.


7 posted on 02/23/2013 11:01:43 AM PST by newheart (The greatest trick the left ever pulled was convincing the world it was not a religion.)
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To: G Larry

You would have to be crazy to go to a psychiatrist.


8 posted on 02/23/2013 11:02:55 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Drew68
Psychiatrists to brand grief lasting longer than two weeks a mental illness

It used to be anywhere from a year to two years of morning. Six months was an absolute minimum and you can be sure people would whisper about your lack of proper sentiment.

9 posted on 02/23/2013 11:03:24 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Promotional Fee Paid for by "Ouchies" The Sharp, Prickly Toy You Bathe With!)
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To: All

Please keep in mind folks that there are legitimate mental disorders that people need help for.

Bipolar disorder and schizophrenia are two biggies that require psychiatric help and meds.

Prayer is not going to make it go away.


10 posted on 02/23/2013 11:04:21 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Permanent Govt. disability cheque !

And never allowed to own a gun!

And, if you look up now you can see the trial lawyers circling like buzzards. (Boss chewed you out? He gave you a mental disorder...)

11 posted on 02/23/2013 11:04:42 AM PST by VRW Conspirator (Sometimes it takes calamity to lead to serenity - FReeper RacerX1128)
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To: old curmudgeon

You are aware that psychiatric disorders exist and that psychiatrists are necessary to help assist those who are mentally ill?


12 posted on 02/23/2013 11:07:07 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: Drew68

Just speaking from personal experience and extensive conversations with perhaps one hundred other parents whose kids got killed in combat, it takes 2-3 years to come around a bit. Maybe four years and the clothes fit, thought not well.


13 posted on 02/23/2013 11:07:18 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: old curmudgeon

You are aware that psychiatric disorders exist and that psychiatrists are necessary to help assist those who are mentally ill?


14 posted on 02/23/2013 11:07:32 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: old curmudgeon

You are aware that psychiatric disorders exist and that psychiatrists are necessary to help assist those who are mentally ill?


15 posted on 02/23/2013 11:07:48 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Causing trouble since 1976)
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To: Drew68

I wonder if Psychiatry is a mental disease..
You know... related to Narcissism or Megalomania


16 posted on 02/23/2013 11:10:23 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Drew68
Now why on earth would American psychiatrists wish to see more people classified with mental disorders? Hmm...

Insurance companies need to fight this insanity...

17 posted on 02/23/2013 11:10:33 AM PST by GOPJ (To be free is to own one's risk - Jonathan Levy)
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To: newheart

“Fresh pickings from the “Get over it, you jackwagon.” School of Psychotherapy.”

One of my favorite ads. I’ve met and talked with R. Lee Ermey. I feel comfortable around Marines, not shrinks.


18 posted on 02/23/2013 11:13:08 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Drew68

There is a reason that in the olden days the official time of mourning was one year.


19 posted on 02/23/2013 11:14:59 AM PST by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: G Larry

One of those “born agains” that believe medical science is useless and would let your child die rather than taking antibiotics because “God wishes him ill because someone four generations back committed a sin”???

You are an idiot.


20 posted on 02/23/2013 11:15:07 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Drew68; Slings and Arrows

21 posted on 02/23/2013 11:15:17 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

There is nothing wrong with praying for the healing of others, even those who have mental illness. It ia an act of Christian love.


22 posted on 02/23/2013 11:16:50 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Drew68

The same thing will happen here. Your spouse dies, and you grieve more than two weeks then they will take your guns if you have any.

Everything in this world is now about power, money, and control.


23 posted on 02/23/2013 11:16:58 AM PST by Revel
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

If you denied (that’s taking an awful big step) the bi-polar folks and schizophrenia folks access to guns...then half of your mass shootings would likely go away.

In my home town where I grew up...we had a mass shooting from three years ago. Wife, daughter, sister of the shooter, and son of sister...all shoot by the husband. Cops do your basic investigation, and wrap it up...just a mass shooting. Not discussion over what drugs he might have been taking, but some speculation that he was taking a fair amount of pain-killers. Might have been nice to take away his access, but would probably never occur.


24 posted on 02/23/2013 11:17:41 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Drew68
but faggotry is normal... right
25 posted on 02/23/2013 11:18:31 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Drew68

Psychiatrists are how the gulag operated and the Stasi....You can make people “think” they are mentally ill. It is actually quite easy.

To allow strangers to label people on “soft” science is evil. Most psychiatry is bogus-—many psychiatrists are mentally ill and is why they go into the business. Good ones are few—and they can help....but most are “Whores of the Court” and bought and paid for by some drug company or political agenda.

It is how the APA is saying that sodomizing boys is “good” for them—like Rush brought up last month. The homosexual agenda is to make people think Good is Evil and Evil is Good and Up is Down.

It is how the APA took homosexual acts off of the mental illness list-—from political pressure—no hard science. In fact, the vile use of the body defies science and Truth. To promote the idea in “Pride” in sodomy in schools is destroying the Logic of children. They will be conditioned into insane “thinking”-—it is why liberals are mentally ill. They are not logical and can’t process the Truth.

It is insanity and will collapse culture-—to collapse Truth and destroy the concept of Laws of Nature (basis of USA). Psychiatry hides the Truth and labels—which is Marxist at its core. They destroy the concept of Virtue and Free Will-—which is necessary for Freedom and belief in God.


26 posted on 02/23/2013 11:19:26 AM PST by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: svcw

Yes, there was a reason because you are still dealing with the worse of the grief.


27 posted on 02/23/2013 11:20:51 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Drew68
...grief lasting longer than two weeks a mental illness

Where does this put Charlie? He's had a good deal of grief since 1950, and still has it...


28 posted on 02/23/2013 11:22:30 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: martin_fierro
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29 posted on 02/23/2013 11:23:48 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Drew68

Yet another expample of just how trivial the members of our society and its leaders have become. I still think of my daughter who died as a child thirty years ago. True I have not taken to bed; but I would say I still mourn her and hope that I will see her again. Their position is NONSENSE!


30 posted on 02/23/2013 11:23:47 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Disability checks plus gun confiscation! It’s a win-win for the libs!


31 posted on 02/23/2013 11:23:47 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: Drew68
I love Psychiatrists, don't you? I mean, come on! They prescribe wonderful drugs for anyone and anybody! It is a shame that many of the drugs cause so many maniacal mass murders, but, what the hell?.....sorry, I need more Soma...I'll be resting for awhile....

FMCDH(BITS)

32 posted on 02/23/2013 11:25:07 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: CodeToad

One of those “born agains” that believe medical science is useless and would let your child die rather than taking antibiotics because “God wishes him ill because someone four generations back committed a sin”???

You are an idiot.


Are you that trusting of doctors and gov? My Mother was almost killed twice by govt regulations.


33 posted on 02/23/2013 11:25:30 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Lord save me from some conservatives, they don't understand human nature any better than liberals.)
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To: Revel

Everything in this world is now about power, money, and control.


I miss the days when it was about freedom, choice and responsibility.


34 posted on 02/23/2013 11:27:10 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Lord save me from some conservatives, they don't understand human nature any better than liberals.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN

James 5:13-18.


35 posted on 02/23/2013 11:27:13 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Revel

Everything in this world is now about power, money, and control.


I miss the days when it was about freedom, choice and responsibility.


36 posted on 02/23/2013 11:27:18 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Lord save me from some conservatives, they don't understand human nature any better than liberals.)
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To: Drew68

But if you want to lop off your wiener and call yourself Susan that’s just f**king spiffy!


37 posted on 02/23/2013 11:27:18 AM PST by servo1969
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN; old curmudgeon
“You are aware that psychiatric disorders exist and that psychiatrists are necessary to help assist those who are mentally ill?”

You are aware that this is just BS to ban people from owning guns?

38 posted on 02/23/2013 11:27:34 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: Drew68

Grief is normal and we each deal with it our own way. If someone feels they need help with it, that is their way to deal. I lost my husband of 54 years and turned down my primary doctor’s offer of anti-depressents and I did just fine. I still miss him after 3 years but I am certainly not in a state of depression and do not believe that I was.
Church, family, friends and music did much to ease the loss, and relocation was also a big help. That’s what worked for me. But I know people who have been “on the couch” following the loss of a loved one. I believe it
may be various issues and not grief alone.


39 posted on 02/23/2013 11:28:48 AM PST by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: CodeToad

Psychiatry has largely been abused as a secular replacement for faith and friends.

Classifying it as “medical science” is a bit generous, as they have poisoned far more children than they’ve helped.

Your characterization of me and the basis for my opinion is hilarious, desperate, and wrong.


40 posted on 02/23/2013 11:29:52 AM PST by G Larry
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To: hosepipe

The “science” of liberal psychopaths.


41 posted on 02/23/2013 11:30:31 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Drew68
I love Psychiatrists, don't you? I mean, come on! They prescribe wonderful drugs for anyone and anybody! It is a shame that many of the drugs cause so many maniacal mass murders, but, what the hell?.....sorry, I need more Soma...I'll be resting for awhile....

FMCDH(BITS)

42 posted on 02/23/2013 11:30:46 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Drew68

Obama’s been president for... how long?

I QUALIFY!!!


43 posted on 02/23/2013 11:30:58 AM PST by Peter W. Kessler (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: ruesrose

I meant to say, seeking treatment for many years.


44 posted on 02/23/2013 11:31:52 AM PST by ruesrose (The Anchor Holds)
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To: Drew68

Q: What is the name of a paranoid mental disorder that identifies all other individuals as potentially dangerous deviants?

A: Psychology.


45 posted on 02/23/2013 11:33:26 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
There are some psychiatrists (far and few between) that are of a more natural (holistic) bent. They are not prescribing the heavy drugs once thought the "only" way to aid with bipolar and schizophrenia symptoms.

And while prayer alone (barring a miracle) may not heal the suffering, it sure doesn't hurt to storm the heavens, as prayer is the only "pill" that provides true peace. That being said, St. Dymphna is a good saint to request prayers from. :)
46 posted on 02/23/2013 11:33:36 AM PST by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Drew68; a fool in paradise
A very shy guy goes into a bar and sees a beautiful woman sitting at the bar. After an hour of gathering up his courage, he finally goes over to her and asks, tentatively, "Um, would you mind if I chatted with you for a while?"

She responds by yelling, at the top of her lungs, "NO! I won't sleep with you tonight!" Everyone in the bar is now staring at them. Naturally, the guy is hopelessly and completely embarrassed and he slinks back to his table.

After a few minutes, the woman walks over to him and apologizes. She smiles at him and says, "I'm sorry if I embarrassed you. You see, I'm a graduate student in psychology, and I'm studying how people respond to embarrassing situations."

To which he responds, at the top of his lungs, "What do you mean $200?!"


47 posted on 02/23/2013 11:34:43 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Beagle8U

“You are aware that this is just BS to ban people from owning guns?”

Damn straight! Be VERY CAREFUL what you say to your VA primary care physician with regard to your emotional or mental concerns.


48 posted on 02/23/2013 11:37:12 AM PST by shove_it (Long ago Huxley, Orwell and Rand warned us about 0banana's USA.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

It took a year to get over my dad’s passing and I still mourn him. Heck, I tear-up thinking about my former kitties.


49 posted on 02/23/2013 11:41:29 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: CodeToad; G Larry
One of those “born agains” that believe medical science is useless and would let your child die rather than taking antibiotics because “God wishes him ill because someone four generations back committed a sin”???

You are an idiot.

Where in G Larry's post did he say that? There are idiots around here. It's not G Larry or me...hmmm, that leaves only one.

FMCDH(BITS)

50 posted on 02/23/2013 11:43:04 AM PST by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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