Skip to comments.RUBIO'S AMNESTY: A PATH TO OBLIVION FOR THE GOP
Posted on 01/30/2013 6:33:19 PM PST by smoothsailing
January 30, 2013
Apart from finding out that Barack Obama did far worse in his re-election than nearly any other incumbent who won re-election, the only thing that perked me up after Nov. 6 was coming across a Time magazine published after the 2004 election, when George W. Bush won a second term.
In the mirror image of all the 2012 post-election analyses, the Democrats were said to be finished, out of ideas, hopelessly unpopular. It's like watching MSNBC, with the word "Democrats" replaced with "Republicans."
Democrats had thrown everything they had into beating Bush, crushing the Howard Dean wing of their party and running a moderate -- a Vietnam veteran, no less! They had George Soros, Michael Moore and Code Pink working like fiends to topple Bush.
Still, they lost to an incumbent. As Time noted, the Democrats had "lost five of the past seven presidential elections."
But the pendulum swings. The Democrats came roaring back in 2006 and again in 2008. There's no reason Republicans can't do the same, unburdened by having to run against an incumbent in 2016.
Unless Marco Rubio has his way.
The Democrats never change their ideas; they change the voters. For decades, Democrats have been working feverishly to create more Democrats by encouraging divorce (another Democratic voter!), illegitimacy (another Democratic voter!) and Third World immigration (another Democratic voter!).
Strangely, some Republicans seem determined to create more Democratic voters, too. That will be the primary result of Sen. Marco Rubio's amnesty plan.
IT'S NOT AMNESTY! Rubio's proponents cry. They seem to think they can bully Republicans the way the Democrats do, by controlling the language.
Rubio's bill is nothing but amnesty. It isn't even "amnesty thinly disguised as border enforcement." This is a wolf in wolf's clothing.
Despite all the blather about how Rubio demands "Enforcement First!" the very first thing his proposal does is make illegal aliens legal. (Don't call them "illegal aliens"!)
All I've heard him say is that not securing the border is a deal breaker. That means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. This bill will get reconstructed, drafted and pushed through just like health care so that it can be passed in order to see what's in it. Democrats promising to a provision is as worthless as the oath of office they took in vain.
Once any version of this bill passes, it's "Katie bar the door". All Mr. Rubio needs to do (as I suggested when I called his Miami office) is go on national TV and ask the democrats to include that the back ground check provision will mandate pulling voter registration roles to see if felony vote fraud has been committed by applicants.
The dems would scream "racist" , but it won't happen anyway because the fix is in - count on it.
“All I’ve heard him say is that not securing the border is a deal breaker.”
Read up on his Dream act BS.
Pisses me off.
There is absolutely no way to "legislate" this country back to Liberty.
A collapse is coming, 1, 5 or 20 years. Let's pray our Republic can be restored.
The tyranny of the Washingtonians and their apparatchiks in the bureaucracy and their demented evil propagandists in the press must inevitably result in the collapse of the first American Republic and the rise of a second Republic.
A Republic where the Franchise is limited to responsible citizens, and the Capital in not located in DC but is rotated amongst the States that are invited to join (NY, CA, the entire Northeast and IL need not bother to apply).
The sooner the collapse happens, the better.
Agree on all points! Even so, come quickly!
From this moment on, you will not be allowed to purchase a Sleep Number Bed, a single gold bar, rent a temporary office, or use Carbonite or Go-to-Meeting. Please, don't beg.
Former rock'n'roll DJ Rush may be, but he has achieved sainthood and is quoted daily by many of the smartest people in trailer parks everywhere. The fact that he does not question Rubio's status as a Natural Born Citizen, despite being born to two (2) non-citizens is proof positive that this issue does not matter.
As far as illegal immigration goes, it wasn't all that long ago that St. Rushmo was saying "....sign of a healthy economy ... hardworkers ... doing jobs that Ameri .....etc. etc." ad naus. In short, he was a mouth for Karl Rove and his preposterous theory of "Mexicans the Republicans of the Future."
Rush is a broadcaster of absolutely preternatural talent. Political Philosopher? Nah! His job is preaching to the choir and selling them weird stuff, which he does very, very well.
We need to get Rubio to amend the “immigration reform initiative” to include a requirement for the “illegal aliens “ to forfeit their right to vote until they qualify for USA citizenship or 25 years, whichever is LESS?
Clearly this whole amnesty crap is nothing short of pandering for Hispanic votes. Disqualifying them from voting should be added to the penalties for being in the country illegally (why can’t we call them what they are - CRIMINALS) and non-negotiable from the Pub standpoint. Let’s see how many Rats will go for this one, which would demonstrate their true motive behind this “immigration reform initiative”.
Perception is reality in politics. Politics is all about amassing power by consensus.
NOW -I would suggest that the questions being asked are not legitimately premised UNLESS there is a campaign. The Republicans are already in office -they do not have to gain power -they already have it -they own the House. No campaign necessary -in fact, campaigning is a distraction and a waste of efforts and resources. Let Obama campaign all he wants -so what!!!!
As such, no consensus is necessary and as such perception is irrelevant.
The Part of NO should remain the party of NO -NO more compromise. As well, the party of NO should become the party of NO COMMENT. To hell with even attempting to make a case for a media that is in bed with the enemy.
Republicans should ignore all the leftist diversions -ignore all the media circus -not even participate in the perception and consensus game. They should just hunker down and execute the plan -period!
Really, I could care less about interviews and statements and this or that BS -all I care about are the votes and the actions. They should just do it -no apologies or excuses or rationale is necessary to do their job no mater how many times the left demands it! The left is NOTHING -the left is not the grand arbiter that decides what is and what is not legitimate so why even entertain their questioning -tell the left to pack sand -no comment necessary!!!!
The time for a new strategy -a strategy of action rather than discussion is NOW! No bipartisanship or Obama approval is necessary...
Rubio is playing with fire.
If Mr. Rubio gets his way on immigration, he will have succeeded in doing more damage to conservative ideals - and to America’s future - than a RINO like Chris Christie could ever hope to do...
Well, I guess this is a positive, Coulter is no longer being Obama Supporter going after Birthers
The Rubio-Obama bill is Amnesty...and any other description of it is just spin
I like Rushs idea. Make them all legal citizens immediately, except they cant vote for the next 25 years.
That is AMNESTY
If you are not deporting Illegal Aliens, it is Amnesty.
That idea is like letting all the drunk drivers escape DUI charges, but have to walk to bars for the next 25 years. Aint gonna happen
What a dumb statement. Does Rush really believe the courts would allow a second class of citizenship for 11 million or more people? There is no way legal citizens of this country can be denied the vote just because they gained their citizenship thru an amnesty.
Would anyone listen to Ann if she looked like Madeleine Albright or Helen Thomas? She may yearn for Krispy Kreme Christie for POTUS but would she have dated him?
Ok, that does it! I'm going to have to go to his site and check the transcript because the crap phrase in quotes, if accurate, sure would give me an "oh (BLEEP!)" moment!!!
Not because Rubio said it as a freudian slip of monumental proportions, but because Rush didn't catch it instantly and call Marco out on it. Maybe Rush's hearing problem caused this, who knows. That new TX Senator Cruz is the one Rush really should be supporting IMO, but it's his show. Aside from that it's my country!!!
Rubio wants to legalize their status immediately so they can stay and work here, It is an amnesty.
Any legislation that legalizes the status of those who broke our laws by entering our country illegally and allows them to stay and work here is amnesty. We must not only prevent the Democrats and some moderate Republicans from hijacking the meaning of the word amnesty, but the public must be made aware about the true impact of an amnesty. The Heritage Foundation concluded that the cost of amnesty would be $2.6 trillion just for increased entitlement program costs. And the number of additional LEGAL immigrants who would join those who were the recipients of amnesty through chain migration, i.e., family reunification, would approach 70 million over a 20-year period, assuming there are only 12 million illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate such numbers. An amnesty would destroy the United States of America with the stroke of a pen.
Who benefits from the status quo?
The Dems benefit with or without an amnesty. Legal immigration is actually more of a problem than illegal immigration. The legal immigrants are having far more of an impact electorally. The Dems dont need a amnesty to get more Dem voters. Every year, 1.2 million legal immigrants enter the US and the overwhelming majority of them will be voting Dem. The last decade ending in 2010 saw the largest number of legal immigrants ever to enter this country in our history13.9 million. One in 8 in this country is foreign born compared to one in 21 in 1970. Immigration is changing our electoral demographics ensuring that the Dems will be the permanent majority party. Amnesty just hastens a process that has been ongoing over the past 40 years.
Democrats as illegals pour across the border
40% of the illegals who are in this country came here legally and overstayed their visas. Securing the border only solves part of the problem.
The neo-Cons at “Commentary” and “Weekly Standard” are promoting your argument.
It makes no sense to me.
Obama has already given “Executive Order Amnesty” to 2 million illegals - those brought here as “children” and those with a legal spouse or with legal dependent family members.
Once he gets citizenship for the other 9 million, Texas will vote Democrat in 2016, and Conservatism will be dead.
The MSM has been demonizing Republicans 24-7 on every issue imaginable for the last 20 years - why would Obama have to “torpedo” immigration reform to make that happen?
If Congress doesn't vote for Amnesty, Obama will just grant Amnesty by Executive Order.
Believe it or not, Romney was the strongest anti-Amnesty candidate in the GOP Primary.
He pretty much avoided the issue during the general election.
No telling where he might have ended up on the issue if he had been elected and “matured” in office.
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
Why did he have to demagogue the ‘fiscal cliff’ when he had just won the election? Why did he have to jump on gun control with both feet less than three hours after the shooting at Newtown? You don’t think he or Schumer or Durbin really intend to work with Rubio on his plan do you? 0bama came out the day after the Schumer-Durbin-Rubio press conference and threw a wrench in their ‘bi-partisan’ announcement. This is a bait-and-switch IMO.
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