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Holy Cow! Tyranny at The Dairy
Freedom Outpost ^ | January 26, 2013 | Rhett Kelley

Posted on 01/26/2013 8:22:20 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This morning I watched yet another video of something that disturbs me greatly: the events leading up to the “legal” theft of several tons of cheese produced on a small family farm in Missouri. This, after the cheese had been embargoed for over 2 years and thus was no longer fit for consumption anyway. All of this was done in the name and at the expense of the taxpayers of Missouri, under the guise of “food safety.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: antirawmilkscam; ban; bullystate; fda; health; morninglanddairy; nannystate; rawcheese; rawmilk; scam

1 posted on 01/26/2013 8:22:22 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Cheesy


2 posted on 01/26/2013 8:26:50 PM PST by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Nanny State PING!


3 posted on 01/26/2013 8:30:03 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

What a travesty!!

Our food system is set up and run by people hell bent on pure profit and health is the secondary motive. We are not allowed to eat raw food but food processed till there is no nutritional value left is perfectly fine. Then we wonder why the majority of people are 30+ lbs overweight.


4 posted on 01/26/2013 8:30:03 PM PST by pennyfarmer (Your socialist beat our liberal AGAIN.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Nanny State PING!


5 posted on 01/26/2013 8:30:54 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Happy New Year!)
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To: pennyfarmer
Our food system is set up and run by people hell bent on pure profit and health is the secondary motive.

Your post shows an incorrect view of Conservative principles, and it has NOTHING to do with the video at the link.

What you seem to miss and what is happening all across the nation is that sadistic Statists at all levels of government are out to abuse the citizens and small businesses (and large businesses that go against the Marxist).

Yes, some big businesses use the power of government to punish competitors and such. That is not a failure of government, but an abuse of power by those in government. It's what Sarah and others called Crony capitalism.

It's disgusting how government at all levels is abusing our freedoms.

6 posted on 01/26/2013 8:39:02 PM PST by sand88
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To: sand88
That is not a failure of government

Should be,

That is not a failure of capitalism..

7 posted on 01/26/2013 8:47:00 PM PST by sand88
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To: pennyfarmer

If there was any proof to such fantastic claims, it would be wonderful to see. Some anecdotes about how some (proportion unmeasured) people did better on the raw product (which they ought to be free to consume, don’t mistake me) is the best that ever gets produced. Some claim that pasteurization removes minerals, something chemically impossible. When pasteurization first came into practice, there was soon a large demand for it; not only did the milk keep longer, there WERE fewer milk-borne diseases. Today, a farm must be very scrupulous about sanitation if it is to produce publicly acceptable raw dairy products.


8 posted on 01/26/2013 8:47:24 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


9 posted on 01/26/2013 8:48:49 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I have to wonder how many times a day abuses like this occur across America. The abuses do not have to be about raw milk, but just government, too much government, just doing their jobs. Personally, I couldn't take their cheese if I worked for government. If I owned the farm, I might not be as friendly. I would also ask my friends and neighbors to be no so friendly.

There needs to be a day that we just say no to government - with consequences for anyone enforcing government's will.

10 posted on 01/26/2013 8:52:20 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: pennyfarmer

This is one area where Europeans have more freedom than we do.


11 posted on 01/26/2013 8:56:56 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: ConservativeInPA

It looks like a dispute over the sanitation status of the product, about whether Listeria was present or not. Tests on the cheese alleged it was present; tests on the dairy itself found none.

Some smart food processing operations (though I don’t know if raw organic dairies would be interested) have started to use phages — viruses which do nothing but kill bacteria. The viruses are harmless to humans. Any unlucky Listeria bacterium that gets accosted by a phage is soon croaked. But it may sound too “processed” for use. Whatever. But this looked like a genuine dispute of facts.


12 posted on 01/26/2013 8:57:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You may be correct. But in my neck of the woods there has been an all out assault on diaries that sell raw milk products. It is viewed as abusive government power. My mother's family are dairy farmers and my wife's family are diary farmers. We drink raw milk all the time ... and for years before this ever became an issue. There is currently a market for a product that is unprocessed. My family is not in that business, but I understand it. There is nothing wrong with it, but the government wants to shut it down. If the market doesn't want it, then people will not buy. Meanwhile, our tax dollars go to the government to shut down legitimate businesses when the marketplace would do it for free if it was a real problem and people took personal responsibility.

Let me use an unrelated and unregulated example of personal responsibility. Last Saturday, a friend called me up we got to talking about his plans for the afternoon. He was dressing and cleaning two ducks that his neighbor gave him. He never did that before so I offered to help him. When I arrived at his house, I found his wife a little suspect of the ducks, since they were not dressed and they have been hanging for several days. It has been very cold here, so probably no problems and I said if there is any problem with the ducks I would tell them. The ducks were plucked, cleaned and roasted. No one got sick. The government wasn't involved, and personal judgement (responsibility) made sure that no one got sick.

Granted, most people do know how to do that, but they should. Last summer, I bought some hamburger and went to a couple of other stores. When I went to make the burgers for dinner it didn't look or more importantly smell right. I threw it out. While it may be stretch, but shouldn't government monitor me driving around on a hot summer day with hamburger in my vehicle so I don't get sick?

13 posted on 01/26/2013 9:27:39 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh

I stumbled across a documentary on hulu called ‘Farmageddon.” It’s worth watching.


14 posted on 01/26/2013 10:57:35 PM PST by Maurice Tift (You can't stop the signal, Mal. You can never stop the signal.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck; All
When pasteurization first came into practice,there was soon a large demand for it; not only did the milk keep longer...

Pasteurization kills the naturally-occuring lactic acid producing bacteria in raw milk. In raw milk, this lactobacteria cultures and acidifies milk making it inhospitible to the more nefarious biological agents that make store-bought milk "go bad". The result is that raw milk actually has a longer shelf life than the pasteurized homogenized milk that has been made available to the public since the decline of the small family farm.

I have consumed raw milk that had been in sealed glass bottles kept at 41° F in my fridge and the "expiration" date was 3 months back... on the top of the bottle where the cream is was excellent naturally-produced sour cream, the rest was fully cultured skim milk. It's an aquired taste, but very similar to buttermilk or a thin kefir.

To describe the taste (in mixed, polite company) is difficult. Let's just say that lactobacteria cultures occur elsewhere in nature where ist also provides an environment naturally hostile towards infectious diseases.

15 posted on 01/26/2013 11:28:55 PM PST by Rodamala
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The kids are fed socialism and homo porn all day at school but a carton of raw milk brings out the jack booted thugs with automatic weapons.

it's all just a dream, right?

16 posted on 01/27/2013 12:12:50 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Rodamala

My grandparents gave my dad and aunt soured raw milk when they weren’t feeling well. I’d personally love to get ahold of some for my kids. Dairy sends my son into uncontrolable ADHD meltdowns, that no spankings, timeouts, iPod deprivations, nor serious talkings to can cure. I’d love to see if he has the same issues with raw.


17 posted on 01/27/2013 5:37:54 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Food safety laws benefit the middle man, not the producer. They are for transport rather than consumption purposes.


18 posted on 01/27/2013 5:55:05 AM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Everybody on that farm should have been armed. A show of strength to tell those commie bastards a line has been drawn.

Either we mean business when it comes to this stuff or we can lie down and let them take everything. It is THAT simple.


19 posted on 01/27/2013 7:06:36 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: sand88
"It's what Sarah and others called Crony capitalism"

She was close- this is something new.

Obammunism: Crony Socialism.

All the worst of crony capitalism combined with all the worst of socialism.

Or, the worst form of government there is, designed to ruin a perfectly good country in mere years.

Normal Socialism takes decades to become a miserable failure. This is going to do it in record time, probably as soon as everyone is disarmed.

20 posted on 01/27/2013 8:25:49 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Why not just have the STATE set safety standards for raw milk production and sale within it’s borders. No Feds are needed and the consumer will know from a clear label that the product is not pasteurized and can assume any risk in eating it.


21 posted on 01/27/2013 1:31:06 PM PST by The Great RJ
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