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Chief Nulty Says Journal News Endangers Undercover Officers,
Rockland County Times ^ | 1/12/13 | ROBERT KNIGHT

Posted on 01/12/2013 10:55:43 PM PST by Impala64ssa

Their names have been broadcast in bright daylight. Undercover officers, some who pose as “bad guys” that should not be allowed to have a pistol permit, outed by their own local newspaper.

Orangetown Police Chief Kevin Nulty joined a growing chorus in blasting The Journal News. “I think The Journal-News went overboard on this,” he said, noting that in his opinion the listing of names and addresses of gun permit holders jeopardizes their health and safety, and clearly jeopardizes the safety of all local undercover officers regardless of the department for which they work.

Joining Nulty and the County of Rockland Tuesday evening, the Orangetown Town Board publicly criticized the gun map of the Rockland County Journal-News-snip-

The strongly worded resolution, which was approved on a 4-0 vote with one abstention, was introduced by Republican Councilman Paul Valentine of Blauvelt and seconded by fellow GOP member Denis Troy of Pearl River. It was quickly supported by fellow Republicans Thomas Diviny and Thomas Morr.

“Resolved that the Orangetown Town Board condemns The Journal-News for publishing the names and addresses of legal gun permit owners in Rockland County,” the motion drafted by Morr read. “This reporting was unnecessary and potentially dangerous,” it concluded. snip-
Additionally, Nulty said the northern suburbs of Rockland and Westchester Counties are home to many federal undercover officers, whose identities are also supposed to be confidential, for their own safety and to safeguard their investigations. They include agents working for the FBI, the CIA, the Secret Service and all four branches of the military. As law-abiding citizens, if they carry guns, which most do, the chief said they apply for and receive local carry permits. Until The Journal-News published this information, however, their identities had always been kept secret.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; corruption; democrats; enemedia; guncontrol; guns; journalnews; liberalmedia; msm; newyork; secondamendment
One abstention one this resolution, Democratic Supervisor Andrew Stewart, who "wanted more time to study the issue, and the wording of the actual resolution." The fallout continues, especially as the law of unintended consequences becomes apparent, the potential impact on national security and terrorism. Calling the Urinal-Spews staff foolish and naïve would be too kind.
1 posted on 01/12/2013 10:55:59 PM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

Liberals never concern themselves with consequences, intended or otherwise. Their anti-gun or pro-abortion agenda overrides everything.


2 posted on 01/12/2013 11:04:14 PM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: Impala64ssa

I wonder if there’s some way we can sic the Westboro Baptist Church on the Journal-News?


3 posted on 01/12/2013 11:04:39 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Read article twice.
My understanding , under cover cops posing as “bad guys” would only have guns illegally .
Flagging them as having permits , shows their not who they say they are.
First hunch is they’re cops by the bad guys.

I thought police didn’t have permits.


4 posted on 01/12/2013 11:05:54 PM PST by Morris70
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To: onyx
Liberals never concern themselves with consequences, intended or otherwise. Their anti-gun or pro-abortion agenda overrides everything.

Both those liberal agenda result in the deaths of innocents.

Fairly makes my case that liberals are just plain unadulterated evil.

5 posted on 01/12/2013 11:17:54 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: Slings and Arrows

“I wonder if there’s some way we can sic the Westboro Baptist Church on the Journal-News?”

Tell them that the J-N Staff are all gay!


6 posted on 01/12/2013 11:19:40 PM PST by vette6387
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To: Morris70

For the undercover guys/gals, maybe that’s part of their “cover”.


7 posted on 01/12/2013 11:28:00 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

Then I don’t understand how the news article hurts them.
I guess I’ll figure it out later. No worries.


8 posted on 01/12/2013 11:37:53 PM PST by Morris70
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To: meadsjn

I concur with you.


9 posted on 01/13/2013 12:07:12 AM PST by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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To: vette6387

Might not even be a lie.


10 posted on 01/13/2013 12:08:52 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Impala64ssa
He's an idiot. It was always the law that the names were public information. The media just did the work.

The problem is the 'permit' not the news publishing public info.

The Chief is attacking the press, instead of trying to remove the permit process, so every American can have a handgun in their house without first asking permission from the King.

11 posted on 01/13/2013 12:16:02 AM PST by Theoria
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To: Impala64ssa

Why would they need permits?


12 posted on 01/13/2013 2:40:21 AM PST by wastedyears (My life mostly completely turned around in a few weeks. Now to leave NY...)
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To: wastedyears

Can this be done? Sue the idiots who wrote the article and the newspaper for “endangerment” to the police officers.

Contrary to what those who believe the police only shoot dogs do, the policemen’s jobs are stressful enough without adding to it.


13 posted on 01/13/2013 5:49:18 AM PST by Progov
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To: Impala64ssa

Smash their presses and shut them down. Sue them to poverty.


14 posted on 01/13/2013 6:08:39 AM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: wastedyears
"Why would they need permits?"

Although the police automatically "have permits" for their duty weapons, I believe most (if not all) cops also have personally owned firearms that they keep at home for the defense of their families and themselves in "off-duty" hours. Of course, the requirement for "permits" varies widely by geography.

15 posted on 01/13/2013 6:25:57 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Impala64ssa

Y’know, I had never even considered the aspect of undercover police officers being “outed” by that stupid “gun map”

I’m wondering now just how many undercover investigations have been potentially compromised by the arrogance of those idiots at the Journal News. On top of all the private citizens who already have also been put at risk, of course.


16 posted on 01/13/2013 8:41:26 AM PST by DemforBush (You might very well think that. I could not *possibly* comment.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Impala64ssa.
Undercover officers, some who pose as “bad guys” that should not be allowed to have a pistol permit, outed by their own local newspaper.
The Other Shoe Drops ping.


17 posted on 01/13/2013 10:35:02 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Impala64ssa
safety of all local undercover officers regardless

My god, how many undercover cops are there?

18 posted on 01/13/2013 12:17:08 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Morris70

In some states a cop has to get a carry permit in order to carry off-duty.


19 posted on 01/13/2013 12:57:52 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Don't worry about the cliff. We're going to all land on some rich guy's wallet.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
"I wonder if there’s some way we can sic the Westboro Baptist Church on the Journal-News?"

How about a no knock dynamic entry search of the newspaper HQ along with the homes of the editor and publisher to determine if there are any improper links and payments from third party sources?

20 posted on 01/13/2013 1:08:25 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Slings and Arrows
"I wonder if there’s some way we can sic the Westboro Baptist Church on the Journal-News?"

How about a no knock dynamic entry search of the newspaper HQ along with the homes of the editor and publisher to determine if there are any improper links and payments from third party sources?

21 posted on 01/13/2013 1:08:37 PM PST by Truth29
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To: Mr. Silverback

Now it makes sense.


22 posted on 01/13/2013 1:21:18 PM PST by Morris70
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To: Impala64ssa

The liberal mind thinks gun owners are at risk by printing names and addresses.. It never occurred to them that single females WITHOUT guns were put at greatest risk.. What fools the media are for doing as the 0bama regime told them to do. You can bet Holder gave the order. A-hole EH!


23 posted on 01/13/2013 1:21:45 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Impala64ssa

The gay lobby was successful in having medical records so extremely private that anyone in the healthcare industry releasing them, however inadvertently, warrants fines that basically put them out of business. Why can’t the gun lobby assure that licensing and ownership are NOT matters of public record. That would be “closing the barn door” for now, but would be helpful to future owners/licensees.


24 posted on 01/13/2013 1:27:37 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Truth29

Just have people with cameras walking around the building taking pictures for the next few months. Big Cameras, not a dang Iphone


25 posted on 01/13/2013 1:35:00 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: Truth29

I dunno - I’m kind of fond of the Fourth Amendment.


26 posted on 01/13/2013 1:43:14 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Impala64ssa

One of the fringe benefits of gun ownership is that everyone, not just gun owners, enjoys an umbrella of protection by keeping the identity of the actual gun owners hidden. Criminals are deterred by not knowing which home owner is armed to the teeth and which has little more than a dull butter knife for protection. By outing the gun owners, the newspaper has removed an effective crime prevention tool.


27 posted on 01/13/2013 3:02:31 PM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

You have finally found a use for the WBC. I suspect many would be willing to pay them to make the lives of the Journal News staff miserable for several months.


28 posted on 01/13/2013 6:13:15 PM PST by matt04
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To: Impala64ssa

http://newyork.newsday.com/news/nation/journal-news-gun-permit-map-used-by-burglars-to-target-white-plains-home-1.4441678


29 posted on 01/13/2013 6:18:01 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Impala64ssa

Don’t the Police and their families have the same right to be victimized, Just like the rest of the CITIZENS they are Hell Bent on Disarming??


30 posted on 01/13/2013 6:40:24 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: matt04

I love red-on-red action.


31 posted on 01/13/2013 8:07:36 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Looks like they stuck their little hotdogs into a soup full of piranhas.

Exercising freedom of the press does not allow compromising law enforcement operations or exposing matters of national security.

I hope they’re shut down, and the leakers prosecuted.

May God bless and protect all the exposed undercover agents.


32 posted on 01/14/2013 8:39:56 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: Impala64ssa

All very well and good to protest after.

Where were the protests when the Journal News requested the info?


33 posted on 01/14/2013 1:40:31 PM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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To: EDINVA

Only abortion and HIV are private.

How about publishing a list of welfare recipients?


34 posted on 01/14/2013 1:43:37 PM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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To: Impala64ssa

Under New York law, every county, city, town, and village is required at their annual reorganization meeting to designate a newspaper for the publication of legal notices. This is a big source of revenue for the Gannett Rags. The municipalities should protest with their wallets and designate another newspaper.


35 posted on 01/14/2013 1:53:42 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: dervish

Only abortion and HIV are private.

I don’t believe that’s right. Check out HIPAA. A doctor/hospital can hardly admit they are treating a patient or gave him/her a flu shot. And, if any healthcare provider provides confidential information without the patient’s signed authorization, s/he or it can be sued and fined big time.


36 posted on 01/14/2013 2:03:45 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

Yes, I know about HIPAA. I was being facetious.

But it is true that if you look at standard medical disclosure forms, HIV requires special extra consent. It used to be that communicable diseases received special treatment in the other direction in order to prevent disease spread.

Also, even foster parents are not entitled to know the HIV status of the child they are caring for (NY law). But they are entitled to other health info.


37 posted on 01/14/2013 2:19:14 PM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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To: dervish

“... even foster parents are not entitled to know the HIV status of the child they are caring for (NY law).”

Holy cow! I bet that did a lot to encourage families to take in foster children. I would think, however, that the records they ARE entitled to see would reveal enough to deduce an HIV/AIDS diagnosis.

I’m in favor of returning to the older method of informing about especially, contagious disease.


38 posted on 01/14/2013 2:30:40 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

My sister worked in foster care and the stories she told me made my hair stand up.

I am always amazed that AIDS/HIV which is almost wholly a preventable illness is never targeted by the same people who want to limit our salt, sugar, fat etc because of how much it costs the healthcare system.

AIDS/HIV costs est $350,000 lifetime per person. That is a lot of money!


39 posted on 01/14/2013 2:41:27 PM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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To: dervish

As I’m sure you know, the reason the folk who care about how much soft drinks or salt we consume, or how many cigarettes we smoke look the other way when it comes to highly contagious/deadly HIV/AIDS, is that its largest constituency group is overall very wealthy and politically powerful with all kinds of time on their hands to lobby, and knows no bottom to the depths they will plumb to destroy any who oppose them.


40 posted on 01/14/2013 3:18:22 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: EDINVA

and they control much of Hollywood.


41 posted on 01/14/2013 5:16:56 PM PST by dervish (either the vote was corrupt or the electorate is)
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To: dervish

“...they control much of Hollywood.”

And New York. And, for now at least, Washington,DC. Really sorry state of affairs. With absolutely no viable countervailing force on the conservative side.


42 posted on 01/14/2013 6:06:40 PM PST by EDINVA
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