Skip to comments.Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns
Posted on 01/09/2013 9:51:19 AM PST by kcvl
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All one has to do is examine what Obama has done on the international stage to see what he will do here. Nothing but death and destruction to Libya, Egypt and Syria. And now Iraq is destabilizing as is Afghanistan. Said he would be responsible for more deaths then anyone in human history about 3-4 years ago. And it looks like he is right on track. Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Obama.
Might save “a life” on the one hand and cost many more on the other.
How will you quantify it anyway????
“Saved or prevented xxx lives”. ? ? ?
I understand, but I’m still not giving them up, even if the SC rules his EOs effective. I can read, actually, and what the 2nd Amendment tells me is my right to own firearms, any firearms shall not be infringed. The fact that I choose to accept my particular State’s rules about purchasing, etc. is immaterial to the argument. The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, the very entity the Second Amendment and the rest of the Bill of Rights protects my God-given rights FROM, repeat FROM!, has no f@cking say in the matter.
If they want to do away with the Bill of Rights or part of them, then by GOD, do it according to the Constitution....get 3/4 of the states to ratify an amendments and 2/3 of both houses to confirm it. Otherwise Obama and Holder can STFU as well as the media and liberals.
It does sound as though she understood intrinsically what we're up against. And yes - it is evil. As evil as the little monster who broke into that school in Connecticut. But rather than deal with the real problem (our sick and demented popular culture), the Left's fascist impulses are now on full display.
After all, Progressives created this culture of violence and immorality, and now propose to deny decent and honest people the ability to defend themselves against its byproducts. Well, to hell with them and to hell with that.
How about all of the lives that are lost as a result of The Incompetent One voting 3 times to deny medical care to a baby that survives an abortion? Hmmmm?
Does anyone know if an American President can legally issue an executive order that violates the constitution?
“Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.”
Each State could “nullify” any Executive Order or Federal Congressional law under Article 9 and 10 of the US Constitution!
It would appear that nothing the US Supreme Court found in both Heller decision and the McDonald v Chicago decision the right to keep and bear arms is an [individual] protected right, not a collective State right!
Any gun confiscation EO or Legislative Bill will be met by a second American revolution with only 1/3 of the American people fighting to protect their natural right of self defense, just like the first revolution when only 1/3 fought against the British military!
The first revolution started when he British marched to Concord to seize guns and ammo, so will the second revolution because most Americans simply refuse to learn from history and history must be repeated!
Keep your heads down, fight on your ground not on the Freddy’s. Get your families together right now and make plans to keep them safe and learn how to fight in small teams that can disburse quickly in hit and run tactics. Never let the enemy sleep, eat, or feel secure! Harass them until they either back off, leave your area or simply give up!
NEVER SURRENDER, NEVER SURRENDER!
We are ruled by an electronic pen now. Forget about the fencepost turtle.
And yes, if he tries to enact gun control via executive order... It violates the Constitutions express limits on his power.
Someone, anyone, should be quoting the the FBI statistics on how many weapons are used every year to stop the bad guys. I read here and other sites about a citizen stopping a home invasion every day. Who on our side ever discusses those stats?
Our side talks about the 2nd Amendment, but rarely points out how many innocent decent citizens protect themselves on a daily basis. The last FBI stats I read showed many more defending themselves with weapons in one year than all the horrific mass shootings, not to mention the gangsters in Chicago (530 deaths in 2012), Detroit, Philly, et al.
Come get my simple home-defense weapons, Biden/Bambi. Go for it. Just try an Executive Order and see if anyone obeys your totalitarian directives. This is NOT 1936 Germany. We are a different culture.
The courts will not uphold this. They know it is the end of their power if they allow the POTUS to become a dictator. They will protect their powers.
Gun control is Manifest Destiny and not a shot will be fired it will slip in on little cats feet like the fog in the night
No he cannot.
He is not a member of the LEGISLATIVE branch.
The President cannot enact laws. Only the LEGISLATIVE branch can do that.
If he tries this, he is no better than a dictator.
He can do what he wants. We’re all going to be making our own executive decisions regarding this as well.
It is a moral issue and it deals with tyranny, and creating law to turn law-abiding people they can’t touch into criminals so they can go after them. This country is free because we are an armed populous. Plain and simple and every dictator around the world knows it. Tyrants only remain in power because they’ve disarmed the peons and they can’t fight back.
declared war against the oppressed states who legally seceeded, blockaded their ports seized their assets, forced the south into firing the first shot
declared the Emancipation Proclomation
probably 99% of the freepers think Lincoln is a hero and adore him, even my idol Mark Levin adores that rat basterd Stincoln
You could be right. If so it won't be hard to tell what side is what.
We will be the one with the GUNS.
They will have sling shots and knives. . . . .
disarm criminals , hell they can;t or wont check to see about who should be legally voting.
The left and most folks today think rights come from Govt, homo rights, cross dressing rights, abortion right right, etc, no our rights come from the constitution which the left hates as it stops them from forcing all their agenda.
2nd amendment is udner attack
the 10th amendment has been under attack
the first amendment has been underattack, making churches and employers pay for abortion, contraception, accepting cross dressing turd feces pokers, all against freedom of religion.
WHERE THE HELL IS OUR SIDE ON THIS AND OTHER AMENDMENTS, stop this reaching out and go out and frigging fight for once, that is what you were voted to do.
As for those idiots in those blue states which voted for this and has a gun then this shows how frigging dumb you lot are.
The 2nd Amendment says “arms” not “firearms”.
“Arms” can include light sabers, whiffle bats, sharp sticks, 40-watt plasma rifles, etc. Think outside the box.
if the left want their socialist utoia then they shoudl move and move back to teir liberal crap holes and set their country up near the Canadian border.
Leave us alone down here and parts of the midwest and AK, to hell with the left wing scum and their elitist media pals and those fools on our side which keep reaching out
6,000,000 Jews liked to think that they would ultimately be left alone to live peaceful lives.
The problem is that you already voted your likes...and you lost.
I, President Okenya, hereby issue this Executive Order, to be in effect immediately:
"All firearms are hereby banned and illegal to possess. I am ordering all sworn police officers to immediately suspend the enforcement of general laws, and to concentrate on confiscating weapons from their owners. Anyone resisting the police is to be summarily executed, and I, President Okenya, and my State, shall stand behind the officer.
So let it be written. So let it be done."
this will go down and Obama will be a national hero, they will erect a staue of him next to Lincoln, Obamas staue will have one hand on Lincolns arm and the other hand with that one hand "got soemthing in my eye" salute that he is so famous for
You forgot “Praise be to Allah” at the end.
Of course, naturally...my bad...
An executive order on the people of the United States violates the Republican Form of Government because the order is not the result of representative legislation.
Dammit! I KNEW I forgot something!
Does anyone think it odd that after action taken by his minions that would allow der 0berFuhrer emperor Hussein 0bama to serve unlimited terms, that he wants to seize our weapons?
got mine flying on the vehicles and in the front yard.
To hell with these socialists who come down here or want their socialist state to be pushing their agenda onto us.
The amount of times I;ve met these socialists moving ere and are surprised we can have fires in our yards, we can shoot in our yards we have and carry guns, or if they see hunters and then get all shocked.
If they don;t like the flag they can piss off too
saw a white van yesterday in town with massive letters on it saying get the feds out of Dixie.
To hell with their socialist agenda
I like the picture, but wood chippers are faster and more efficient.
The feds back then forced the first shot and got what they wanted and it seems bozo and his socialists are doing the same.
Well my battle flag flies as I type this in the yard and on the vehicles too and if those liberal ass holes don;t like it then tough they can move back
That would be an act of war.
It’s unconstitutional. Only the Congress can make a law. The right to bear arms shall not be infringed. We can not have our property seized without due process.
How is it that the US Constitution protects illegal aliens, mentally handicapped, Islamic terrorists and other human debris, but not me?
How is it that the US Constitution empowers our government and disempowers the American people?
To date, U.S. courts have overturned only two executive orders: the aforementioned Truman order, and a 1995 order issued by President Clinton that attempted to prevent the federal government from contracting with organizations that had strike-breakers on the payroll. Congress was able to overturn an executive order by passing legislation in conflict with it during the period of 1939 to 1983 until the Supreme Court ruled in Immigration and Naturalization Service v. Chadha that the “legislative veto” represented “the exercise of legislative power” without “bicameral passage followed by presentment to the President.” The loss of the legislative veto has caused Congress to look for alternative measures to override executive orders such as refusing to approve funding necessary to carry out certain policy measures contained with the order or to legitimize policy mechanisms. In the former, the president retains the power to veto such a decision; however, the Congress may override a veto with a two-thirds majority to end an executive order. It has been argued that a Congressional override of an executive order is a nearly impossible event due to the supermajority vote required and the fact that such a vote leaves individual lawmakers very vulnerable to political criticism.
Probably a disturbingly-large percentage.
he has the media and because of the media he has been made a frigging hero to the great unwashed.
Blacks still come out and vote for him though they are in more of a worse state.
idiot yankee liberals still vote for him because they watch the view and think homo’s should have rights but gun owners who protect their families should not, hell they do not even know where the rights come from anymore.
At least once a week I sit down wiht my kids and go over where our rights come from and what is right and wrong, the issue of homo’s came up last week and I asked them to ask anyone who states they should have all these special rights to show them where in the constitution.
If anyone states guns are the problem then tell them why is my SIG just sitting there not harming anyone.
Funny when a media sheep obama voter finds out I have guns they become surprised and shut up because they think all gun owners live in dumps, have no teeth etc.
Hell I have one of the nicest houses around here and when neighbors have their family visiting them we see them staring at my battle flag and look surprised LOL
Does anyone have any idea what this reported Executive Order is going to say? I mean, actual information and not panicked, paranoid speculation?
An executive order that conflicts with the Constitution of the United States? Even Clinton would never have gone that far. I hope the response to Obama is exactly what he deserves - nonviolent but unwavering and perpetual opposition to totalitarian evil.
Nope. Only what Biden said in that interview. That they’d bypass Congress to implement gun control.
Zero will do what he wants. After all, who's gonna stop him?
The silence from Red State governors tells me something. Now would be a good time to pray.
If an astrologer said it, you can be sure they were told it by Satan or one of his minions.
So the question is, why did Satan want that said on a national radio show?
It is a form of astrology but based on science.
He explains it more here.
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