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Biden: Obama Considering 'Executive Order' to Deal With Guns ^

Posted on 01/09/2013 9:51:19 AM PST by kcvl

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To: kcvl

Führer Diktat.

101 posted on 01/09/2013 10:41:42 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: kcvl

All one has to do is examine what Obama has done on the international stage to see what he will do here. Nothing but death and destruction to Libya, Egypt and Syria. And now Iraq is destabilizing as is Afghanistan. Said he would be responsible for more deaths then anyone in human history about 3-4 years ago. And it looks like he is right on track. Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Obama.

102 posted on 01/09/2013 10:42:29 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: kcvl

Might save “a life” on the one hand and cost many more on the other.

How will you quantify it anyway????

“Saved or prevented xxx lives”. ? ? ?

103 posted on 01/09/2013 10:43:13 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Let's Roll

I understand, but I’m still not giving them up, even if the SC rules his EOs effective. I can read, actually, and what the 2nd Amendment tells me is my right to own firearms, any firearms shall not be infringed. The fact that I choose to accept my particular State’s rules about purchasing, etc. is immaterial to the argument. The FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, the very entity the Second Amendment and the rest of the Bill of Rights protects my God-given rights FROM, repeat FROM!, has no f@cking say in the matter.

If they want to do away with the Bill of Rights or part of them, then by GOD, do it according to the Constitution....get 3/4 of the states to ratify an amendments and 2/3 of both houses to confirm it. Otherwise Obama and Holder can STFU as well as the media and liberals.

104 posted on 01/09/2013 10:44:15 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer
Sorry about losing your mom.

It does sound as though she understood intrinsically what we're up against. And yes - it is evil. As evil as the little monster who broke into that school in Connecticut. But rather than deal with the real problem (our sick and demented popular culture), the Left's fascist impulses are now on full display.

After all, Progressives created this culture of violence and immorality, and now propose to deny decent and honest people the ability to defend themselves against its byproducts. Well, to hell with them and to hell with that.

105 posted on 01/09/2013 10:45:17 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: indthkr
I wonder if all the GOP governors are going to comply with this?

None of the governors should comply.

Law enforcement officers should refuse to comply.

Anyone who uses the constitution like toilet paper should be treated like toilet paper.
106 posted on 01/09/2013 10:45:23 AM PST by novemberslady
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To: Vendome
They make up any statistic they damned well want us to believe so it doesn’t matter what the truth is anyway!
107 posted on 01/09/2013 10:46:37 AM PST by kcvl
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To: Jane Long

108 posted on 01/09/2013 10:48:16 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: hummingbird

How about all of the lives that are lost as a result of The Incompetent One voting 3 times to deny medical care to a baby that survives an abortion? Hmmmm?

109 posted on 01/09/2013 10:49:15 AM PST by Marathoner 244
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To: All

Does anyone know if an American President can legally issue an executive order that violates the constitution?

110 posted on 01/09/2013 10:50:34 AM PST by warsaw44
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To: grumpygresh
Most State's Constitutions provide more protections to “keep and bear arms” than the 2nd Amendment of the US Constitution. For instance, the Michigan Const. of 1963, Article I, Section 6 states:

“Every person has a right to keep and bear arms for the defense of himself and the state.”

Each State could “nullify” any Executive Order or Federal Congressional law under Article 9 and 10 of the US Constitution!

It would appear that nothing the US Supreme Court found in both Heller decision and the McDonald v Chicago decision the right to keep and bear arms is an [individual] protected right, not a collective State right!

Any gun confiscation EO or Legislative Bill will be met by a second American revolution with only 1/3 of the American people fighting to protect their natural right of self defense, just like the first revolution when only 1/3 fought against the British military!

The first revolution started when he British marched to Concord to seize guns and ammo, so will the second revolution because most Americans simply refuse to learn from history and history must be repeated!

Keep your heads down, fight on your ground not on the Freddy’s. Get your families together right now and make plans to keep them safe and learn how to fight in small teams that can disburse quickly in hit and run tactics. Never let the enemy sleep, eat, or feel secure! Harass them until they either back off, leave your area or simply give up!


111 posted on 01/09/2013 10:51:16 AM PST by paratrooper82 (82nd ABN Div. 1/508th BN "Fiery From the Sky")
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To: Missouri gal
Since Obamaboyking had the autopen sign the "fiscal cliff" legislation so he could go out and play (and fallback to say "HE personally never signed a tax increase"), can the autopen be used to sign legislation while he's playing on the links that he might not otherwise approve?

We are ruled by an electronic pen now. Forget about the fencepost turtle.

112 posted on 01/09/2013 10:53:43 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: warsaw44
There have been exactly two Executive Orders that were over turned by the Courts. One was Truman's, the other was one of Clinton's.

And yes, if he tries to enact gun control via executive order... It violates the Constitutions express limits on his power.

113 posted on 01/09/2013 10:53:43 AM PST by Dead Corpse (Sine ullo desiderio vive et ama.... Carpe diem.)
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To: Jewbacca
"Someone needs to point out there are about 350 deaths per year from long guns, of which, probably 30 or 40 are from rifles with high-capacity magazines."

Someone, anyone, should be quoting the the FBI statistics on how many weapons are used every year to stop the bad guys. I read here and other sites about a citizen stopping a home invasion every day. Who on our side ever discusses those stats?

Our side talks about the 2nd Amendment, but rarely points out how many innocent decent citizens protect themselves on a daily basis. The last FBI stats I read showed many more defending themselves with weapons in one year than all the horrific mass shootings, not to mention the gangsters in Chicago (530 deaths in 2012), Detroit, Philly, et al.

Come get my simple home-defense weapons, Biden/Bambi. Go for it. Just try an Executive Order and see if anyone obeys your totalitarian directives. This is NOT 1936 Germany. We are a different culture.

114 posted on 01/09/2013 10:53:52 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever.)
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To: kcvl

The courts will not uphold this. They know it is the end of their power if they allow the POTUS to become a dictator. They will protect their powers.

115 posted on 01/09/2013 10:54:07 AM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Mastador1
Lincoln pulled this kind of crap and became a hero for it. Turned the guns on those who tried to lawfully seceed .I am sure in this day and age it will go down even easier than it did back in in the 1860's.

Gun control is Manifest Destiny and not a shot will be fired it will slip in on little cats feet like the fog in the night

116 posted on 01/09/2013 10:54:32 AM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: kcvl

No he cannot.

He is not a member of the LEGISLATIVE branch.

The President cannot enact laws. Only the LEGISLATIVE branch can do that.

If he tries this, he is no better than a dictator.

117 posted on 01/09/2013 10:57:43 AM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: kcvl

He can do what he wants. We’re all going to be making our own executive decisions regarding this as well.

It is a moral issue and it deals with tyranny, and creating law to turn law-abiding people they can’t touch into criminals so they can go after them. This country is free because we are an armed populous. Plain and simple and every dictator around the world knows it. Tyrants only remain in power because they’ve disarmed the peons and they can’t fight back.

118 posted on 01/09/2013 10:59:01 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: warsaw44
Abraham Lincoln

declared war against the oppressed states who legally seceeded, blockaded their ports seized their assets, forced the south into firing the first shot

declared the Emancipation Proclomation

probably 99% of the freepers think Lincoln is a hero and adore him, even my idol Mark Levin adores that rat basterd Stincoln

119 posted on 01/09/2013 10:59:24 AM PST by KTM rider ( , you'd be lucky to get= $7....LOL !)
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To: Biggirl
"As I said so often, in a predicting manner, this could very well be a “flashpoint” to a possibl future civil war."

You could be right. If so it won't be hard to tell what side is what.
We will be the one with the GUNS.
They will have sling shots and knives. . . . .

120 posted on 01/09/2013 10:59:36 AM PST by DeaconRed (The problem In Germany started when Hitler took the GUNS. The Fork did not eat the pie.)
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