[KTM rider]

Lincoln pulled this kind of crap and became a hero for it. Turned the guns on those who tried to lawfully seceed .I am sure in this day and age it will go down even easier than it did back in in the 1860's.

Gun control is Manifest Destiny and not a shot will be fired it will slip in on little cats feet like the fog in the night

[Mr. Silverback]

No, no, no.

No matter what anyone says about Lincoln, rightly or wrongly, it was DEMOCRATS confiscating federal property and firing on a federal military reservation that began the war.

With all due respect to Southerners who fought bravely for what they thought was right, it should never be forgotten that Democrats who supported slavery fired the first shots then and are in essence firing the first shots now.