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Another innocent victim murdered in the subway; Cops hunt woman who shoved man to his death
NY Daily News ^ | 12/27/12 | Matthew Lysiak

Posted on 12/28/2012 9:15:20 AM PST by Impala64ssa

A heavyset Hispanic woman — seen by five witnesses pacing and mumbling to herself — pushes a helpless man in front of an oncoming Flushing-bound No. 7 train in Queens. She was caught on tape while fleeing the crime scene: police. A MAN WAITING for an approaching No. 7 train in Queens died a gruesome death Thursday night when a young woman darted up behind the helpless straphanger and pushed him onto the tracks, police said.

The unidentified victim was crushed by the first and second cars of the Flushing-bound train about 8 p.m, as his murderer hustled down the stairs of the elevated station at the 40th St./Lowery St. stop in Sunnyside and fled in an unknown direction on Queens Blvd.

The suspect, described by police as a heavyset Hispanic woman in her 20s, was still at large as of early Friday.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: crime; queens; subwaycrime
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It's time for us to have rational discussions about dealing with fat psychotic Latinas. Perhaps if the el over Queens Blvd wasn't built 100 yrs ago this tragedy could've been prevented.
1 posted on 12/28/2012 9:15:35 AM PST by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

Congress needs to ban subway trains to stop these murders.


2 posted on 12/28/2012 9:17:18 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: Impala64ssa

How did those cowardly spectators let her get away? Didn’t want to get involved? Unbelievable.


3 posted on 12/28/2012 9:18:25 AM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: The Great RJ

We just need to limit daily caloric intake, it is obvious that some overweight people are driven to violence. A good first step would be to outlaw Hostess Twinkies.


4 posted on 12/28/2012 9:20:42 AM PST by RipSawyer (I was born on Earth, what planet is this?)
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To: Impala64ssa

Hell hath no furry.....


5 posted on 12/28/2012 9:24:50 AM PST by Leo58 (Those who cheer you today will curse you tomorrow, the only thing that endures is character.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Whenever I travel on the DC or NY subway, I always stay against the wall, preferably in middle sections of platforms with a divider or some natural barrier.

situational awareness.


6 posted on 12/28/2012 9:29:18 AM PST by PGR88
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To: RipSawyer
A good first step would be to outlaw Hostess Twinkies.

Thankfully, the unions have destroyed this evil symbol of reactionary oppression. Ding Dongs and Ho Hos were not spared either. It is all for the good of the people.

7 posted on 12/28/2012 9:31:23 AM PST by PGR88
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To: crosshairs

Union members, NOT IN THEIR JOB DESCRIPTION/sar


8 posted on 12/28/2012 9:32:31 AM PST by annieokie
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To: crosshairs

Because they’re desensitized and didn’t want to get sued. Piece of sh*t. I believe in karma, and this will come back to get them eventually.


9 posted on 12/28/2012 9:33:11 AM PST by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: Impala64ssa

Time to bring back asylums...


10 posted on 12/28/2012 9:36:35 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Impala64ssa
Look when I lived in NY the first thing we did was never stand that close to the tracks when on the platform. We stood against the wall. Many things we did back then such as wear no Jewelry and keep eyes open at all times. Just saying!
11 posted on 12/28/2012 9:39:43 AM PST by angcat
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To: crosshairs

Here in NYC, if you see someone mumbling to themselves and pacing, you generally stay away from them. It was a last minute attack, happening too fast for someone to intervene. It I was there, odds are I would’ve chased her.

Sounds like she should be in one of those mental institutions Liberals had closed down a while ago.


12 posted on 12/28/2012 9:40:22 AM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: The Great RJ

Pass another murder law. mandatory life for killing with a subway.


13 posted on 12/28/2012 9:42:21 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Impala64ssa

Maybe Nanny Bloomberg now will require gates on the platform edges to prevent people getting pushed or falling, and the gates will open only at designated spots where the subway doors open once the train arrives.


14 posted on 12/28/2012 9:43:28 AM PST by AtlasStalled
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To: Impala64ssa
described by police as a heavyset Hispanic woman in her 20s, was still at large as of early Friday.

Or one should rather say she is still at "extra-extra large". Hopefully though they will nail this psycho.

15 posted on 12/28/2012 9:43:35 AM PST by Zack Attack
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To: The Great RJ
"Congress needs to ban subway trains to stop these murders. "

Maybe they should lower the speed limit to 0.5 mph or so.

They could also only let passenger get off the trains, not on.

16 posted on 12/28/2012 9:45:07 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: annieokie

Hi Annie! I was just going to post — they’ve been trained to not do anything, after the shootings, etc. etc. — where the police and goobt advises people not to do anything but cower and run.


17 posted on 12/28/2012 9:48:57 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: PGR88

Shmucky Shroomer should ban high-capacity station platforms.


18 posted on 12/28/2012 9:49:13 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: wastedyears

I lived on Okinawa when the earthquake of 2011 hit Japan. I lived on marine base one block from the east china sea... I heard the sirens wail and knew I had to find out what was going on and evaluate the safety of my current location. Many of my friends and neighbors were completely oblivious for at least 30 minutes after the sirens. It seems that people everywhere lack situational awareness. Taking a survey of his surroundings may have saved this man’s life. Perhaps we all walk around in a state of self absorption.

That being said our culture is promoting behaviors that lead to widespread mental illness with very few mechanisms for treatment and ideally prevention available... unless we get our collective act together these types of stories will multiply


19 posted on 12/28/2012 9:50:27 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Impala64ssa

Darwin at work in another pit-O-despair American urban crap-hole, I mean really.......if there isn’t at least a video of the guy getting killed by the train......who cares? What possible interest is there in it?


20 posted on 12/28/2012 9:50:33 AM PST by Rich21IE
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21 posted on 12/28/2012 9:52:19 AM PST by PMAS (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: crosshairs

40th St. Flushing bound platform at 8PM....very few people.
Bench is near stairs, perp could have been out of sight in seconds.
Once the perp hit the mezzanine level, several different routes are available with no sight lines from foot of platform stairs.

Just how familiar with 7 line elevated stations are you?


22 posted on 12/28/2012 9:55:33 AM PST by Roccus
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To: who knows what evil?

>>Time to bring back asylums...
>>

YES, YES, YES.


23 posted on 12/28/2012 9:56:54 AM PST by kitkat
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To: Borax Queen
Hi Queen: Ya mean only Zombies live in NY?, wow! Too much exhaust fumes fry their brains?

Sure glad I live in the WILD WEST, wide open spaces, fresh air which allow us to think quickly and react.

Too I live in a Right to Work state, lol, so we would be allowed to assist.

24 posted on 12/28/2012 10:00:35 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Impala64ssa
ANYONE! What is a STRAPHANGER? I don't know subway jargon.

Inside the car, I assume they hold on to strap while they stand, but outside on the dock how does that apply?

25 posted on 12/28/2012 10:02:42 AM PST by annieokie
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To: PMAS

The should start rounding up hispanic gangs...this could very well be a gang initiation.


26 posted on 12/28/2012 10:06:51 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: Leo58

zactly what I was thinking....


27 posted on 12/28/2012 10:07:00 AM PST by X-spurt (Republic of Texas)
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To: annieokie

The people that use the subways are nicknamed straphangers. It goes way back to when they had leather straps to grab on to that were suspended from the ceilings of the old subway cars.


28 posted on 12/28/2012 10:07:00 AM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: annieokie

It’s just generic for a subway rider.


29 posted on 12/28/2012 10:09:49 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: annieokie

It’s just generic for a subway rider.


30 posted on 12/28/2012 10:10:03 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Impala64ssa; All

Just my two cents:

All those calling for us to start “dealing” with our mentally ill...be careful what you wish for. While I agree that the state of psychiatric care in this country is woefully inept, let’s not rush to lock up all the suppposed psychos. Be careful who you label as crazy lest you empower people to turn the tables on you. Remember all the media spin “crazy tea-partiers” “right wing wackos” “conservative radicals” and on & on. I shudder to think of the day when we can all be legitimately incarcerated once the gov deems we all have a mental illness.

Furthermore, this crime does not appear randon to me. I smell something more along the lines of a gang initiation. Our problems in this country are due to a secular-humanist, morally relativistic way of thinking. We have a severe spiritual illness, not necessarily just a “mental illness”

Flame away....I’m sure people won’t like my opinion but so be it.


31 posted on 12/28/2012 10:10:32 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: annieokie
“Straphangers” are what subway riders have been called by the MSM in NYC for decades.
You are correct as to the origin of the name. Before the MTA started using horizontal bars as handholds, leather straps with attached porcelain coated steel handles hung from the car's ceiling in front of some seats.
32 posted on 12/28/2012 10:12:18 AM PST by Roccus
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To: Impala64ssa
It's time for us to have rational discussions about dealing with fat psychotic Latinas.

Perhaps a good start would be to register all Latinas, or those exhibiting Latina characteristics. Later, house to house confiscation can begin.

33 posted on 12/28/2012 10:17:25 AM PST by eartrumpet
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To: Impala64ssa; 9YearLurker; Roccus

Thanks to all of you.


34 posted on 12/28/2012 10:20:40 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Impala64ssa
it’s time for meaningful and reasonable action to protect our subway riders. Lock out all fat hispanics from the subway system
35 posted on 12/28/2012 10:24:51 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: Impala64ssa

At least the train wasn’t manufactured by Glock.


36 posted on 12/28/2012 10:26:56 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
At least the train wasn’t manufactured by Glock.

7 line trains were made by Bombardier.

37 posted on 12/28/2012 10:33:00 AM PST by Roccus
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To: surroundedbyblue

No, I understand, I posted something similar on a local forum this morning. While it’s too bad that the libs closed the insane asylums, it’s a little too scary in this day and age to “assume” it could be righted. Instead, some lib who was mad could turn us into the CPS-equivalent. Or, have the jackboot Ninjas come kick in our doors and kill everything moving. In my ideal world, the truly mentally ill would be institutionalized, but I guess we’re never going back to those days now...


38 posted on 12/28/2012 10:34:15 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: kitkat; who knows what evil?
who knows what evil? ~ Time to bring back asylums...

kitkat ~ YES, YES, YES.

I'm sure Bill Ayers would love to run a Soviet-style psych hospital for people who are crazy enough to dislike Obama...

39 posted on 12/28/2012 10:38:43 AM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: The Great RJ
The Great RJ wrote: Congress needs to ban subway trains to stop these murders.

Silly, trains don't kill people -- people kill people!

40 posted on 12/28/2012 10:40:36 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Impala64ssa

Nothing worse than an assault train..quick someone call Feinstein and tell her to write up a bill


41 posted on 12/28/2012 10:42:37 AM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Borax Queen

Never say never. It just requires open eyes and awareness of what we are doing.


42 posted on 12/28/2012 10:42:37 AM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: no one in particular

Was it Sotomayor?

(They coulda got the age wrong)...


43 posted on 12/28/2012 10:45:47 AM PST by null and void (Going Galt: The won't of the people)
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To: Impala64ssa

As a business owner all I can say is if I had the same setup in my building as the subway is OSHA would be all over my behind to install guard rails, cages, and laser trips to keep employees safe.

Guess it must be nice to be exempt from fines and lawsuits like those too...


44 posted on 12/28/2012 10:54:05 AM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: eartrumpet

“Wise” Latinas would be exempt.


45 posted on 12/28/2012 10:58:10 AM PST by JohnnyP
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To: crosshairs

>How did those cowardly spectators let her get away? Didn’t want to get involved? Unbelievable.

My first thought exactly. An unarmed nutcase just did her deed and ran away while these cowards watched. Pathetic.

They should be forever marked so good people know to let them suffer when they need the help of others.


46 posted on 12/28/2012 11:55:59 AM PST by soycd
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To: Impala64ssa

Don’t let Sotomayor decide whether to take up this case or not. All I’m sayin.


47 posted on 12/28/2012 11:58:24 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Impala64ssa
It's time for us to have rational discussions about dealing with fat psychotic Latinas

The time has come for background checks on people who want to ride the subway!

48 posted on 12/28/2012 12:07:48 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Roccus

Question:

Here in DC, there is about an 18 to 24” space under the Metro boarding platform that a quick-witted person who fell/was pushed onto the tracks could roll into to try to avoid being crushed by the train.

Do similar spaces exist underneath NYC subway platforms?

Not that it would have mattered much in this case, since the attack occurred at literally the very last moment.

Personally, I think it was premeditated murder.

While pacing and mumbling may be signs of a distrubed person, they could also be someone trying to work up the determination to act by going over (to themselves) the reasons why this person should die. The truth teller for me is the very quick departure and the multiple exits from the station.


49 posted on 12/28/2012 1:00:36 PM PST by Captain Rhino (Determined effort is the hammer that Human Will uses to forge Tomorrow on the anvil of Today.)
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To: AtlasStalled

The Mono Rail at Disney has them.


50 posted on 12/28/2012 1:23:08 PM PST by Delmarksman (Pro 2A Anglican American (Ford and Chevy kill more people than guns do, lets ban them))
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