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Boehner calls for 'discussion' on guns
the hill ^ | december 18, 2012 | Molly K. Hooper and Mike Lillis

Posted on 12/18/2012 6:19:21 PM PST by lowbridge

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To: lwoodham

“I think Beohner is a deep dem plant and has been one all along.”

Been saying that a long time. Glad to see that a few other people finally get it. It is too late to matter however. The conservatism that built America has already been effectively taken out. There is no great leader left to stand up for it any longer.


101 posted on 12/18/2012 9:48:02 PM PST by Revel
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To: Biggirl
who would replace Boehner as speaker?

My choices are Bachman or Col West.

Bonehead must go. He's unhinged.

102 posted on 12/18/2012 9:53:45 PM PST by Jane Long (Philippians 2:11)
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To: South40

If you have access to Facebook, please post this at the Varney & Co. page. Stuart Varney is a Euro-weenie when it comes to guns.


103 posted on 12/18/2012 9:55:52 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (All those who were appointed to eternal life believed. Acts 13:48)
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To: lowbridge

I swear these nuts are gov’t experiments working towards a goal.


104 posted on 12/18/2012 10:11:21 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: cripplecreek

That was the best thing I think I could have seen today regarding this. Thank you.


105 posted on 12/18/2012 10:12:50 PM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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The GOP is dead, bring back the whigs.


106 posted on 12/18/2012 10:25:34 PM PST by XXXoholic
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To: lowbridge

So basically they’re going to tell us that they’re going to ban guns.

And we can complain or add comments they won’t care about or even consider.

Where was the “discussion” on Healthcare?


107 posted on 12/18/2012 10:38:56 PM PST by Tzimisce (What do you do when every every branch of the government is corrupt and aligned against you?)
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To: lowbridge

I’ve got an idea. Since governments have by far the worst record in terms of “gun deaths”, let’s start the discussion with gun control....for the government.

Ban semiautomatics? OK, fine, but let’s start with a “trial measure”” that eliminates black guns for the FBI/BATFE/IRS etc.


108 posted on 12/18/2012 11:19:50 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: lowbridge

When the GOP abandons the 2nd amendment I’m out of there!


109 posted on 12/18/2012 11:21:35 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: lowbridge

John McCain, without the war record and pudgy daughter.


110 posted on 12/18/2012 11:26:39 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I'll raise $2million for Sarah Palin's presidential run. What'll you do?)
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To: lowbridge

What c-word that man is.....


111 posted on 12/18/2012 11:53:23 PM PST by wardaddy (wanna know how my kin felt during Reconstruction in Mississippi, you fixin to find out firsthand)
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To: tumblindice

Boehner is an alcoholic. He’s got problems he doesn’t want to face amd deal with. He’ll go to his grave a boozer and a weeper, and a guy who likes to show how big and strong he is with strong words ONLY and then capitulation.

A loser and wrong for the most important job that he holds.
He holds the lives of so many people in his hands and he caves in to the enemy instead. A dangerous man and he must be removed.

REMOVE BOEHNER NOW!

Get Rid Of Boehner, NOW!


112 posted on 12/19/2012 12:06:33 AM PST by itssme
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To: RginTN

You definitely do NOT want Israel’s gun model. Trust me.


113 posted on 12/19/2012 12:23:20 AM PST by MestaMachine (It's the !!!!TREASON!!!!, stupid!)
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To: lowbridge
It is time to call Congressman Boehner's telephone numbers. The official number for the Speaker is (202) 225-0600; doubtless other people have better ones to post.

I will also call my own representative to let him know of my displeasure with Mr. Boehner's call for "discussion" on the Second Amendment.

Additionally, I will be glad to contribute to any pro-2nd Amendment challenger for Mr. Boehner's House seat in 2014.

I will also call the RNC to let Mr. Priebus that the GOP needs to remain firm on this issue.

I don't think that the left can generate more hysteria-driven folly like the 1968 GCA, but Mr. Boehner's moronic capitulation to "discussion" doesn't help our side at all.

Mr. Boehner, rather than mewling about the 2nd Amendment, why don't you please do something useful? Clearly, we have far too much government; why not spend some time on, say, getting rid of the Department of Education?

Engaging the left when it is on yet another quest to exploit a tragedy in order to pass hysteria-driven laws is simply bad politics. Instead, move the discussion back to our vast over-spending; we are on the edge of taxmeggedon, and there are far more productive items for the Speaker of the House to be "discussing".

114 posted on 12/19/2012 12:24:32 AM PST by snowsislander
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To: tumblindice
"He really should turn in his `nads. Every photo I see of him it looks like he's starting to cry, actually crying, or drying his tears. Do us all a favor John, and just stay out of our way. Stay home and listen to songs about weeping and have a good cry..."

He acts like he has ovaries. This might help him.


115 posted on 12/19/2012 12:59:57 AM PST by 444Flyer
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To: lowbridge

Don’t know why anyone’s surprised.

People are fond of saying that elections have consequences and that’s true. But it is also true that there are consequences for having gone out and rah rah’d a liberal gun grabber to lead the party.

It sent a very clear message to the GOP. That message was...

“We will feed you crap because you have shown us that you love the taste.”

And now here we are faced with what could be the sudden and in very real ways, death knell for t=our only means of defense against actual communist tyranny. Widespread gun control and confiscation.

Bohner will indeed have his ‘conversation. It will go like this.

“The American people, by the millions supported Mitt Romney, who had a very open record of being pro gun control. Their support tells me that these people are willing to moderate the traditional Republican stance on guns. Because it would be absurd to think they would have voted for a gun grabber otherwise.”

WHY should Bohner fear a backlash? He has no reason to. He is VERY aware that GOP voters will continue to vote GOP no matter what they do. No matter how liberal their policies. No matter how many times they roll over and give the Democrats EVERYTHING they want.

And he knows that across the blogsphere, a significant number of the very people calling themselves ‘Conservative will run out like good little soldiers and make excuses for him, trash anyone who opposes the GOP and do everything within their power, including lying through their teeth, to ensure that Johnny and Co. get the votes come 2014/2016.

And since we have seen EVERY BIT of the above just play out in technicolor over the past several months, we should not be the least bit shocked.

But perhaps we, collectively speaking should leave the plantation. Or STFU and enjoy the flavor of the next sandwiches. And the next, and the next... I would hope by now people are having a serious revaluation of their ‘beliefs’.


116 posted on 12/19/2012 1:27:28 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart

EDIT...Got ahead of my self...

“WE sent a very clear message to the GOP. We will continue to eat what ever crap you serve up because we have shown by our actions that we love the taste.”


117 posted on 12/19/2012 1:34:31 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: cripplecreek

Thank you for posting that. I foresee it making it’s way to my facebook friends.

I’d never seen that before. What an awesome testimony. And I see that douche schumer just sitting there smirking.

grrrrr


118 posted on 12/19/2012 2:39:38 AM PST by onona (Twenty Nine Palms)
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To: lowbridge

This asshat is a complete joke. He’s NOTHING like a Republican. He is a liberal Democrat.


119 posted on 12/19/2012 2:40:46 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: lowbridge

This asshat is a complete joke. He’s NOTHING like a Republican. He is a liberal Democrat.


120 posted on 12/19/2012 2:40:55 AM PST by Lazamataz (LAZ'S LAW: As an argument with liberals goes on, the probability of being called racist approaches 1)
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To: lowbridge

Read the 2nd amendment Boehner. Read it out loud on national television.

Thats all the discussion we need.

Surrender Monkey! Member of the RINO wing of Vichy GOP. Resign you puke.


121 posted on 12/19/2012 2:48:25 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

Everyone should switch registration to ‘Independent’...and Ohio? This is the best you can do? This vain old treasonous drunk? Get lost.


122 posted on 12/19/2012 2:53:40 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MestaMachine
You definitely do NOT want Israel’s gun model. Trust me

That bad?

123 posted on 12/19/2012 2:54:03 AM PST by RginTN
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To: OldPossum

“Trusted”? Like Daddy used to say; “Wouldn’t trust him in an outhouse with a muzzle on”! And with a short list of exceptions that escape me at the moment, same thought pretty much applies to everyone on Capitol Hill.


124 posted on 12/19/2012 3:21:40 AM PST by Huaynero
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To: Biggirl

Better to pose the question by working forward from who would a worse job. in my view, Joe S**T the Ragman or one of the Smuckatella boys would at a minimum be honest.


125 posted on 12/19/2012 3:29:27 AM PST by Huaynero
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To: lowbridge
Whatever the Rats do, they must prevent a "discussion" of crime statistics, specifically, black gun crime statistics.

They MUST avoid that at all costs.


126 posted on 12/19/2012 3:39:57 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Sicon

You may be over them but they aren’t over you, well to be accurate they are over you and me. We are subject to the incompetence and corruption of these idiots.


127 posted on 12/19/2012 3:47:22 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Drew68

Yep. I agree. Might was well take it over the cliff. Give the people what they want. It’s going to go there anyway. (At this point not sure it would teach anyone a lesson but give them an excuse to keep blaming someone else.)


128 posted on 12/19/2012 3:58:26 AM PST by CommieCutter
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To: cripplecreek

She was terrifuc. I loved her downright truthful last sentence.

It is the real reason for the 2nd amendment, needed now more than ever.


129 posted on 12/19/2012 4:00:17 AM PST by dforest
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To: lowbridge

He won’t do anything knee-jerk, except completely capitulate.


130 posted on 12/19/2012 4:25:00 AM PST by wastedyears (I don't want to live on this planet anymore.)
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To: South40

That’s quite an impressive document.

Looking across the developed world it seems that CULTURE is a big determinant (i.e., drinking in Scotland, suicide in Japan, conscription in Switzerland, etc.), NOT GUNS.

Let’s think, shall we - what does the US have in great abundance (culturally speaking) that other countries don’t?


131 posted on 12/19/2012 4:32:15 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: lowbridge

The political correctness of all of this is what needs to stop.

It’s time people just spoke and said exactly what they mean.

Democrats, lefties, liberals, et al, want to ban guns and take them away from as many of us peons as possible. They want to make it harder for people to obtain guns. It’s not about safety or protecting anyone or stopping crime or more shootings, it’s about CONTROL. It always has bee about control. Of course, stupid people, who are already willingly giving up their guns, don’t realize this. But those people, IMO, don’t deserve to have guns anyway.

On the other hand, Republicans pussy foot around the issue, as usual. Instead of their tiptoeing around and trying not to step on any ones toes, they should be out there front and center, speaking plainly and clearly that gun control, regulations and restrictions are not the answer, never have been the answer and this “discussion” about guns, is irrelevant and a waste of everyones time. The basic fact is, we, as Americans, under the US Constitution, have a GOD GIVEN RIGHT to own a GUN. NO ONE has any right, whatsoever, to take or hinder that right. PERIOD!!!! So everyone needs to STFU about it.

Then, it won’t be politicized. See if you take the issue completely OFF the table, and refuse to discuss it, it no longer is something that can be politicized.

From there, the discussion SHOULD BE about the politicization that has been done THUS FAR and about removing any regulations and bans in place, to prevent people from choosing to carry (openly or not).

Look, IMO, the only thing that truly can be done with mentally ill “white boys” is to make people more aware and more prepared on mental health, and proper parenting. However, the federal government has no business in either issue. If the states wanted to develop programs to help with these issues, I’m all for that. But it shouldn’t be mandated or regulated. It should be ones choice to participate.

Oh, and another thing that would help, aside from allowing everyone that wants to, to carry....is providing free self defense classes to everyone that wants to learn.

Just my $02. But the politics and politicians and their non stop Political Correct BS is making me want to vomit.


132 posted on 12/19/2012 4:38:32 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: P.O.E.

Let’s think, shall we - what does the US have in great abundance (culturally speaking) that other countries don’t?

Illegals? ;)


133 posted on 12/19/2012 4:41:37 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: lowbridge

You don’t speak for me John, you pathetic coward.


134 posted on 12/19/2012 4:47:14 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: cripplecreek

BTTT


135 posted on 12/19/2012 4:53:09 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: SaraJohnson; Dick Bachert

I know.

And the Political Class will be very protected by armed people while we the “plebian classes” will be unprotected and attacked by criminals.

A “common sense” thing would be to also disarm their protective details
That way we are all equal, once they are as unprotected as us, then we can have a meaningful discussion.
Otherwise, they’re just hypocritical BS artists.
But that’s redundant.


136 posted on 12/19/2012 4:54:16 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: All

It’s been decided. To stave off a full out ban on the evil black rifles, there will be a ban on importation and manufacture of magazines with a capacity higher than 30 rounds and probably even 20 rounds. There will be a limit on number of guns purchased and there will be a limit on ammunition purchased. They will also go after gun shows and there will be an intentional gumming up of the data collection and database updates of the NICS system to make it more difficult.
Of course none of this could have stopped the nutbag or will stop the next nutbag but it will be “something”..

They will do whatever they can and when the next shooting happens, they will say they need more.


137 posted on 12/19/2012 5:08:43 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: lowbridge

He should just give the gavel back to Pelosi.

What a joke.


138 posted on 12/19/2012 5:29:31 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: itssme
Boehner is an alcoholic.
Apparently, this was Mr. Boehner's explaination of his condition, "I have an illness that precisely mimics the effects of alcoholism. From the reddish skin, to the gaunt appearance, to the slurred speech, to the glazed and unfocused eyes - this rare illness makes innocent sufferers appear that they are alcoholics when in fact they are not. The disease even produces bacteria in the mouth that produce a strong alcohol-like smell that scientists say resembles the odor of something known as 'Jack Daniels". Sounds plausible to me. /s
139 posted on 12/19/2012 5:37:02 AM PST by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: lowbridge

This guy is a complete cave-in failure. Unbelievable!


140 posted on 12/19/2012 5:40:30 AM PST by crosshairs (It's all about good vs evil. In the end, evil is destroyed.)
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To: lowbridge

Why not instead have a ‘discussion’ on the societal devaluation of human life that has occurred in this country since the Roe v. Wade decision was first handed down.


141 posted on 12/19/2012 5:42:50 AM PST by Hoodat ("As for God, His way is perfect" - Psalm 18:30)
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To: lowbridge

The Republican Party needs to be destroyed. Boner and every politician who supports him need to go.


142 posted on 12/19/2012 6:10:22 AM PST by Cato in PA (May America reap the putrid fruit of the demon seed it's sown.)
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To: lowbridge

My stockpile is safe, at the bottom of the lake. They will never find them unless they take it out of my hand postmortem.


143 posted on 12/19/2012 6:53:19 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I have read several places about the infamous “Sixteen GOP House members want to dump Boehner as speaker.” But there’s never a list available.

Methinks this is bullshit or some sort of dodge. Pardon my skepticism.


144 posted on 12/19/2012 7:09:42 AM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Darksheare

how about calling for talks about how parents raise their children, how the family has bene attacked, how about video games and movies which can only show sex and guts hanging out today.

Nah guns are an easy target and would be a gift to the left if they got them all banned.

Using the deaths of kids to deflect their failed social experiments, well how’s that social issues coming along for the left.

You know promote divorce, woman does not need a guy, boys not needing a father, mothers trying to be friends instead of laying discipline down and then wondering in the kids teens she is now losing him.

society has borken down because the left wanted it and now they reap what they have sown


145 posted on 12/19/2012 7:16:00 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: manc

THAT TOO!

But the low hanging fruit of pointing out the hypocrisy of pooliticians was too easy and tempting.
The politicians see easy pickings in disarming us.
If they were to be disarmed and vulnerable in the same fashion as what they plan for us, there’d be some different tunes coming from them.

Instead, they preach disarming us.
Then they grandsatdn on a pile of dead kids, fake cry, and idiots buy it by the slopful.


146 posted on 12/19/2012 7:19:44 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: manc

“grandsatdn”?!

Yeah, I’m ticked.
Typo alert, check your keyboards.
“Grandstand.”


147 posted on 12/19/2012 7:22:40 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: lowbridge

FUJB!


148 posted on 12/19/2012 8:14:09 AM PST by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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To: lowbridge

That is a nice way of saying that some members of the Republican party are planning to roll over on whatever anti-gun legislation is passed.


149 posted on 12/19/2012 9:33:00 AM PST by Del Rapier
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To: lowbridge

oh really Bohner..........what don’t you understand? is it the N or the O?


150 posted on 12/19/2012 10:27:16 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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