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Obama's Soviet Mistake (This from Pravda)
Pravda ^ | 11/19/2012 | Xavier Lerma

Posted on 11/23/2012 6:25:34 AM PST by RoosterRedux

After Obama was elected in his first term as president the then Prime Minister of Russia, Vladimir Putin gave a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland in January of 2009. Ignored by the West as usual, Putin gave insightful and helpful advice to help the world economy and saying the world should avoid the Soviet mistake.

Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.pravda.ru ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: anticolonialist; illiteratesociety; obama; obamacommunist; obamamistake; putin; russia
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1 posted on 11/23/2012 6:25:44 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

This writer, not being an American, may have some incorrect assumptions about America, but he sees Obama clearly for the idiot he is.


2 posted on 11/23/2012 6:28:42 AM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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To: RoosterRedux

Obamski’s war with Iran?

I don’t think so.


3 posted on 11/23/2012 6:28:51 AM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: newfreep
I don't either.

That's one of the things this writer gets wrong.

That said, it is oddly satisfying to have a writer for Pravda tell Obama how wrong he is about Communism/Socialism/Statism.

4 posted on 11/23/2012 6:32:46 AM PST by RoosterRedux (He will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats)
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To: RoosterRedux
For once there is truth in pravda.

CC

5 posted on 11/23/2012 6:34:26 AM PST by Celtic Conservative
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To: RoosterRedux
The closest thing in history I see Obama and his followers are attempting to emulate is the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917. Obama was elected in 2008 with the majority vote of 40 and under college educated. I know more college educated Obama voters than any other segment of our society, follow by Catholic voters. (Notice, I said I know.)
6 posted on 11/23/2012 6:40:46 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: RoosterRedux

Obamapeople.

A unique combination of idiocy, socialism, ineptitude, and Idiocracy.

At least the president in Idiocracy meant well...albeit with the IQ of the Obamadork.


7 posted on 11/23/2012 6:48:19 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

... and you can add murder, because throwing people out on a limb is murder.

The jobless and discontented youth are going to be the most racist anti-immigrant and relovutionary bunch of fools ever.

Meanwhile our fools at homeland security promote it because 95% of DC loves Obama.


8 posted on 11/23/2012 6:53:08 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: RoosterRedux

Poor pootie, just as he trends back to the old Soviet model of communism, along comes obama to make America the strongest communist country in the world.

I pondered if I should use /s but decided not to because there may be some truth there.


9 posted on 11/23/2012 7:27:12 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: RoosterRedux

Unfortunately, the author perceives Obama as being stupid, making the decisions of Lenin all over again to plunge America into the dark well of failed socialist nations.

This is not due to Obama’s stupidity; to believe so is excessively optimistic. It is due, rather, to a deliberate decision on the part of a lifelong avowed Marxist to bring revolutionary communism to the United States.

This will, of course, destroy America; that is a given. However, it certainly is not due to ignorance on the part of the president, but is due, rather, to Obama’s malice, his love of the principle of one-man rule by tyranny, and the deep-seated hatred which fuels his desire to destroy the nation.


10 posted on 11/23/2012 7:43:46 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

It is due to the ignorance on the part of the electorate.


11 posted on 11/23/2012 8:07:28 AM PST by abclily
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To: Jack Hammer

It’s also due to the fact that more than half of people under 30 think socialism is superior to capitalism. We are reaping the the results of the communists “long march through the institutions,” ie, the take-over of our educational system, our churches, and our media. Obama couldn’t do any of what he is doing without a 60 year collapse of these sacred institutions.


12 posted on 11/23/2012 1:03:55 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: RetSignman

Communism doesn’t work. Putin knows that - Obama doesn’t... Obama’s an idiot. Putin’s right about the war against Christianity too... that’s happening here - not in Russia.


13 posted on 11/25/2012 1:49:22 PM PST by GOPJ (The economy is so bad MSNBC had to lay off 300 Obama spokesmen - Leno)
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To: RoosterRedux

OMG. If it’s possible to die of irony, I might need to call 911.


14 posted on 11/25/2012 2:48:48 PM PST by Windcatcher (Obama is a COMMUNIST and the MSM is his armband-wearing propaganda machine.)
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Thanks RoosterRedux. Self-ping.
Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.

15 posted on 11/25/2012 4:08:02 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m from the Givernment and I have come to give you a free lifetime supply of
debt...
More debt than you can possibly imagine
More debt than you could possibly repay in a lifetime
and its absolutely free,
paid for by the ever shrinking value of the dollar!!

It’s just like winning the lottery of life for a little while...


16 posted on 11/25/2012 4:16:18 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: GOPJ

[Communism doesn’t work.]

Communism didn’t work because we were strongest adversary to stop it from spreading, that’s no longer the case.

They now have a ‘fellow traveler’ in the White House, it’s now just a battle of which country will reign as the strongest.

JMO.


17 posted on 11/25/2012 4:29:21 PM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: Just mythoughts

> ... Obama and his followers are attempting to emulate is
> the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917. Obama was elected in 2008
> with the majority vote of 40 and under college educated.

Boshevik means “majority” in Russian.

Menshevik means “minority”.

Conservatives and Libertatians together are just mensheviks.

The rest of the country is bolshevik, not only in the literal sense, but in the ideological sense.


18 posted on 11/25/2012 5:42:39 PM PST by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: GOPJ

Communism does work for its intended purpose - empowering and enriching the party elites. All the rest is is just a con game. Deliberate bullsh*t from its very inception.


19 posted on 11/25/2012 6:28:12 PM PST by BeauBo
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To: RoosterRedux
The author, Xavier Lerma, has nailed Obama as a communist. He has other articles in Pravda worth reading.
20 posted on 11/25/2012 8:42:03 PM PST by uncommonsense (Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
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To: Westbrook

+Boshevik means “majority” in Russian.

Menshevik means “minority”.

Conservatives and Libertatians together are just mensheviks.

The rest of the country is bolshevik, not only in the literal sense, but in the ideological sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It worth mentioning that titles are misleading.
Bolshvic were tiny but very violent minority who has hijacked miserable masses with hope and change promises.


21 posted on 11/25/2012 8:50:31 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: Celtic Conservative; RoosterRedux
For once there is truth in pravda.

What was that saw about blind hogs and stopped clocks?

They dished on Pooty's boy -- a couple of Pravda editors might have unfortunate crime encounters on their front porches, like that newsreaderette did a few years ago.

22 posted on 11/26/2012 3:35:15 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Da Coyote
At least the president in Idiocracy meant well...albeit with the IQ of the Obamadork.

I think you make a mistake running Obama down as a fool. He isn't a person, he's a committee, a project. He has his American closet politburo run by Valerie Jarrett and the Axelplouffe Greaseboys, and then he's got support from half of the Moslem Umma and the remains of the Soviet Empire, the CPUSA, and the Communist International.

Think of him rather as being seated, like the tarot card representing The Devil, on a half-cube ingot of wisdom, representing Lucifer's possession of half of all wisdom. Obama, or rather Obama's cell, has a lot of resources in terms of manipulative political smarts at its disposal -- by resources I mean "people" -- and the will to use them.

23 posted on 11/26/2012 3:41:54 AM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: GOPJ

That is the official line, but it refers to the state church, while churches full of real believers are persecuted:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2960959/posts?page=14#14


24 posted on 11/26/2012 4:24:20 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: uncommonsense

Yet underneath most of his opposition to Obama is the military competition American provides, and thus he opposes Bush as well.


25 posted on 11/26/2012 4:29:49 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: RoosterRedux
Let's give American voters the benefit of the doubt and say it was all voter fraud and not ignorance or stupidity in electing a man who does not even know what to do and refuses help from Russia when there was an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Instead we'll say it's true that the Communists usage of electronic voting was just a plan to manipulate the vote. Soros and his ownership of the company that counts the US votes in Spain helped put their puppet in power in the White House. According to the Huffington Post, residents in all 50 states have filed petitions to secede from the Unites States. We'll say that these Americans are hostages to the Communists in power. How long will their government reign tyranny upon them?

I think Xavier is a Freeper.

26 posted on 11/26/2012 4:42:05 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RoosterRedux

So the Soviets spend 50 years undermining our education, religion and immigration, and now the Russians are complaining about the results?

We should demand reparations from Russia.


27 posted on 11/26/2012 6:01:21 AM PST by JPJones (I wish the buck(s) WOULD stop with me.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them

burn.... well, burn on us...

28 posted on 11/26/2012 6:40:19 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: RetSignman

Not completely. Communism doesn’t work full stop — you can’t have one person or group of persons controlling everything about an economy. the variables are too large and it is too complex.


29 posted on 11/26/2012 6:59:48 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Cronos

[...you can’t have one person or group of persons controlling everything about an economy...]

All due respect but hasn’t obama done exactly that in our country?


30 posted on 11/26/2012 7:34:48 AM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: RetSignman
No.

And he can't -- not because he wouldn't like to, but it is impossible

in the Soviet system, they tried to manage supply and demand for everything, with the result that, for instance, there was sudden surges in which the shops would have a lot of one type of product, say toilet paper, and then not have it for weeks.

This was because the government tried to manage supply and demand on both ends -- and that is impossible in a modern, complex economy

It can work in a small economy -- like a kibbutz or a monastery, but it is impossible to decide how many screws to make at any point in time and adjust it with the screws needed etc -- and multiple that by the billions of different products, including products that go into making other products and you'll realise why the Soviet economy basically shut down by the 80s -- the complexity was too much. Perestroika was a way to relieve some of that pressure

Take any command economy and it fails due to complexity -- the market works best.

31 posted on 11/26/2012 7:40:45 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: RetSignman
Let me also clarify that what I described above of a centralized, command economy is Bolshevism or Leninist communism

There are other, milder forms of communism like kibbutzes etc which work if they don't force others to join -- but note that even kibbutzes and monasteries interact with the market economy

The Soviet idea of representing the people and dictating what supply was needed failed and their economies of scale were shot - they took more time and resources to produce less

Also, the Soviet system of forcing people to do certain jobs is another failure -- say you and I are programmers, but you are much better than me, but at the same time you are exceptional at financial planning -- it makes more sense for you to go into financial planning (and you'd do that to make more money) instead of competing with me

That's the market economy. the command economy is that you'd be forced to be a programmer like me

32 posted on 11/26/2012 7:48:56 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: RetSignman
Obama's stupidity is the stupidity of leftist professors -- communism can work in a small, close-knit, equal community like a kibbutz or a monastery or a university, but it can't work in the wider economy

Obama is a lecturer who has never worked a day in his life, ergo, he thinks what works in a university can work outside -- and he's wroing

33 posted on 11/26/2012 7:50:42 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: RetSignman
And, more so, Obama is so stupid that he can't see how what's he's doing has failed in other countries

Countries like India, China are watching what failed in the west and changing their policies -- Obama is watching what failed in other countries and IMPLEMENTING THE SAME thing, only in a far more complex economy

he's doomed to fail, and fail hard, but, BUT, note that he will cause the US to fail HARD

2020 -- the USA a third world country. That's my prediction.

Let the 47% moan after that has happened -- democrat idiots.

34 posted on 11/26/2012 7:55:47 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: Da Coyote
A person can ‘mean well’ to their death.

How is it possible to believe the President meant well?

He clearly has taken action after action to the detriment of America. Weakening our defense. Obamacare, Spending astronomical amounts of money, bringing us to the point of collapse of our government and nation.

Doing it Intentionally.

He refused to allow the pipeline from Canada to the Gulf Coast and we have more than 23,000,000 unemployed Americans that can't find a job, etc., etc.,

There are many

Of course, he will not say he is destroying our system, but that is exactly the result.

God help America.

35 posted on 11/26/2012 9:22:46 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Da Coyote
A person can ‘mean well’ to their death.

How is it possible to believe the President meant well?

He clearly has taken action after action to the detriment of America. Weakening our defense. Obamacare, Spending astronomical amounts of money, bringing us to the point of collapse of our government and nation.

Doing it Intentionally.

He refused to allow the pipeline from Canada to the Gulf Coast and we have more than 23,000,000 unemployed Americans that can't find a job, etc., etc.,

There are many

Of course, he will not say he is destroying our system, but that is exactly the result.

God help America.

36 posted on 11/26/2012 9:22:46 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: Cronos

Our government can’t even stock enough of the flu shots or which strain to order. Patients in the UK will be making Skype visits with their doctors.

And the Marxist’s FEMA is hiring hundreds of part time workers to clear up Sandy.

Government can’t do anything but enslave.


37 posted on 11/26/2012 9:34:59 AM PST by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Da Coyote
A person can ‘mean well’ to their death.

How is it possible to believe the President meant well?

He clearly has taken action after action to the detriment of America. Weakening our defense. Obamacare, Spending astronomical amounts of money, bringing us to the point of collapse of our government and nation.

Doing it Intentionally.

He refused to allow the pipeline from Canada to the Gulf Coast and we have more than 23,000,000 unemployed Americans that can't find a job, etc., etc.,

There are many

Of course, he will not say he is destroying our system, but that is exactly the result.

God help America.

38 posted on 11/26/2012 10:15:52 AM PST by geologist (The only answer to the troubles of this life is Jesus. A decision we all must make.)
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To: RoosterRedux; newgeezer

Russians are such racists.


39 posted on 11/26/2012 10:25:19 AM PST by DungeonMaster (Not voting against multiple ObamaPhoneWoman votes anymore.)
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To: Just mythoughts
My brother, a history major in college who's done a lot of reading on the era, tells me that intellectuals of Czarist Russia right before the Revolution celebrated killers found not guilty. They were part of the oppressed "proletariat," after all. Free Mumia, anyone?
40 posted on 11/26/2012 11:13:45 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: A'elian' nation

Government can’t do anything but enslave.

True


41 posted on 11/26/2012 11:15:12 AM PST by rurgan (give laws an expiration date:so the congress has to review every 4 years to see if needed)
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To: JudgemAll
...because throwing people out on a limb is murder.

Umm... I'm certainly no fan of Obama, but... Dude, no.

Please don't abuse word "murder" the way so many have the word "Nazi", which renders it meaningless by applying it to everything in the world.

42 posted on 11/26/2012 11:56:00 AM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.

Jeez, Pravda sounds more CONSERVATIVE then the NY SLIMES and the Washington Compost!!

43 posted on 11/26/2012 2:42:41 PM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: RoosterRedux

44 posted on 11/26/2012 2:52:52 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: A'elian' nation
Government is good for 3 things -- providing the police force for internal security, providing military for external security and providing the groundwork for regulations.

all other things are better for people on the ground to do.

45 posted on 11/27/2012 3:03:35 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: ExCTCitizen
"Jeez, Pravda sounds more CONSERVATIVE then the NY SLIMES and the Washington Compost!!"

yes, the rest of the world heads right, while we head left.

They see the good results of American capitalism and want a better future for their children and grandchildren

we, well, i don't know what we see, and we seem to want a worse future for our descendents.

are we (collective "we") stupid?

46 posted on 11/27/2012 3:06:40 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: abclily

Our public schools have been producing one generation of communists after another for decades...liberate your children today!


47 posted on 11/27/2012 3:07:18 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
The Tsarist regime was an oppresive regime with a secret police, concentration camps in Siberia and no freedom of speech, no parliament (until 1905) etc. -- people thought they would replace it with Western European style liberalism, but they replaced it with another hell

The Russian people have had a horrible, bloody history since the invasion of the Mongols

They can use that as an excuse for getting the Bolsheviks

What is our excuse for RE-electing Obama? None. 47% idiots...

48 posted on 11/27/2012 3:09:14 AM PST by Cronos (**Marriage is about commitment, cohabitation is about convenience.**)
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To: geologist
God help America.

This Nation needs to repent.

49 posted on 11/27/2012 3:09:21 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: who knows what evil?

Our public schools have been producing one generation of communists after another for decades...liberate your children today!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I consider our nation’s socialist-funded and godless entitlement schools to be such a threat to our continuing freedom that I have made a personal decision.

I will NOT have a government school teacher or worker for a friend. They are too evil, too stupid, or too much of a Useful Idiot to be a friend.

Isn’t it time that we shunned those who are destroying our nation, and forcing feeding godlessness and socialism to our 85% of our nation’s children?


50 posted on 11/27/2012 3:13:31 AM PST by wintertime
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