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Victor Davis Hanson: A Country Unhinged
Private Papers ^ | November 15, 2012 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 11/16/2012 6:15:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In the last week, it is almost as if the entire American moral landscape has been turned upside down in eerie fashion — in matters that vastly transcend fornication and adultery. The Petraeus-gate matter is the stuff of tabloids now; but soon the real issues relating to when and what Eric Holder knew, and by extension the president, and how exactly Benghazi (the crime of indifference to the besieged, the cover-up of the truth, the actual mission of our consulate and annex) fits into this labyrinth of deceit, both petty and fundamental, may overshadow the present sensationalism.

Nothing seems real anymore, not pre-election federal data on jobs or food stamps or the release of such “facts”; not foreign-policy information like an Iranian attack on a drone; not the supposedly competent federal relief in response to Hurricane Sandy. Even Saddam Hussein’s plebiscites could not achieve margins like the 19,605 to 0 we saw in 59 Philadelphia precincts. Does anyone care?

Susan Rice, who flat out deceived five times in a single day on national TV, is supposedly seriously being considered as Secretary of State when Ms. Clinton leaves — the latter now plans to be “busy” when hearings on Libya resume. (If a John Bolton cannot be confirmed as a UN ambassador, how could Rice avoid a filibuster?) How can anyone now read Broadwell’s book and assume the research and analysis are disinterested?(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at victorhanson.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: benghazi; hillary; obama; susanrice; vdh
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To: yarddog
for the most part the country is crazy

The name given be US. New Normal, New World Order, Insanity? Hardly Wait, hunker down here with friends. There is not one shot our side has fired which hit its mark (taking a cue from your tag). Someone is calling up the ranks, none of us yet has begun to fight. Yes what you say is true .... We will be there soon. We already have a modern nero as president. Has each of US wondered what happens when you, others, and I are no longer the few? Will be a glorious day. Be not downtrodden and think we will lose. A new day will arrive and the sword will be sheathed. Our numbers are overwhelming in might and in song. The battle does loom ... We will be there soon.

61 posted on 11/17/2012 2:09:44 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Wow. Should have read you before posting anything.


62 posted on 11/17/2012 2:11:29 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: CapnJack
colonel whats-his-face probably has a different take today. When looked at the endorsements left verse right from our Military muscle, Mitt had overwhelming might. Though have heard it said and may have come from the left, might does not make right. Sometimes just want to come back and say, You (the left) have no idea. Have a good day.
63 posted on 11/17/2012 2:19:53 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: prof.h.mandingo

Applause. Good Read.


64 posted on 11/17/2012 2:22:40 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: gonzo
brillig
65 posted on 11/17/2012 2:25:55 AM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Graewoulf
Thanks Graewoulf ... you have kept your eyes open.
66 posted on 11/17/2012 2:25:55 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Drew68
look after me and mine

Remain in our country ... you are thinking. Stay prepared. I and others will ask little for talk is talk. All will not be for naught. Stay Safe FRiend.

67 posted on 11/17/2012 2:32:47 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

We will, as a country, wise up and eventually just say “No more” — right?

We can only hope that we have some military commanders within that are still patriotic Americans. We are moving towards one of our last options


68 posted on 11/17/2012 2:36:20 AM PST by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: jivin gene

If the way this happens is the parasites come to this place to try and take direct from the hosts, many parasites will die before these hosts go down.


69 posted on 11/17/2012 2:48:08 AM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I believe Victor is for a true airing of our dirty laundry. A true investigation without having said so. No phony baloney, an investigation without sex, cause humans are humans, and all know sex sells. Watergate, was not about sex. Benghazigate is not about sex. Benghazigate is regarding calls, three calls, and a response of Stand Down. Yes, every time Victor, we are hemmed and hawed when our Congress becomes involved. Only know what was printed, and Victor did not say so .... so a question Victor and each of us. Ahead?
70 posted on 11/17/2012 2:56:21 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: TigersEye
Three Facts

Fact One:
1) Only the POTUS can authorize a CBA (cross border authority) command for a rescue mission in a foreign nation.

Plus Fact Two:
2) No rescue mission was attempted.

Equals Fact Three:
3) 0bama turned his back on 41 State Dept. and CIA employees refusing to issue a CBA command and went to bed so he could go to Las Vegas the next day.



71 posted on 11/17/2012 3:07:14 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: HusbandMan
“We will, as a country, wise up and eventually just say “No more” — right?”

Change the age to vote back to 21, pull the female vote and we will come back to our senses.

Only half kidding.

72 posted on 11/17/2012 3:14:24 AM PST by DAC21
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, strange doings in America; almost as if we’re being transformed into one of those African sh*t holes we read so much about.

But, hey, vox populi vox dei - or something like that.


73 posted on 11/17/2012 3:21:12 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

An African sh*thole with higher technology ... That’s about it.

No morality, no honesty, no respect, no solemnity, no culture, no truth, no past and no future.

Hanson got a few of his facts wrong, but the essential thrust of his article is completely accurate and he is the only one I’ve heard say this. The entire government and electorate has become foolish and frivolous to a level probably unequaled since the worst days of declining Rome or perhaps the French court - or the nearest African sh*thole.

Why were people at the top of levels of our military and government even in contact with two flaky, vicious, unstable celebrity hounds, inviting them into their inner circles, letting them influence policy, becoming involved In the personal lives of the pair to the point where it must have distracted them from their jobs, letting themselves be used as a stage for the psychodrama of these two power groupies, grateful for being put into contact through them with even faded celebrities, and, in short, acting with such utter frivolity and irresponsibility that in a same society they would all be court-martialled or fired or impeached and imprisoned because of the contempt they are showing towards their responsibilities and their country.

A fish rots from the head, and it is definitely Obama who has brought us to this pass in the immediate sense; but it couldn’t have happened without an electorate and a society that is willing to ignore or accept and even admire this behavior. But it’s unsustainable, and it will come crashing down, as it always has in the past.


74 posted on 11/17/2012 4:06:55 AM PST by livius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The feelings and thoughts I’ve had since Election Day are like none I’ve ever had.

As Hanson says- nothing seems real. The “if” in “if, then..” has vaporized. There is nothing solid anywhere- there is no constant, no reliable place to say, well at least THAT is still there. I am disoriented and overwhelmed, although I function and work and my life goes on as does everyone’s, but the certainty in my heart of what it means to be an American citizen has gone.


75 posted on 11/17/2012 4:30:55 AM PST by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: sten

What makes you think that they will implement Obamacare? I’ll wager that they will keep pushing its start date down the road and keep collecting the taxes.


76 posted on 11/17/2012 4:54:20 AM PST by Loud Mime (Conservatives refused to unite; now we pay the price!)
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To: livius

Please tell me, what were the few facts that Hanson got wrong?


77 posted on 11/17/2012 6:01:56 AM PST by carton253
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To: robowombat

Good post. I had ancestors who were murdered by Kansas Redlegs in Missouri and Union Home Guard in Eastern KY - yet we only hear stories of how “Evil” the Southerners were. I currently feel like an outcast to the current USA. Is this how my ancestors felt before they were slaughtered for no good reason?


78 posted on 11/17/2012 6:10:05 AM PST by ohioman
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To: central_va

You sir are an ass.


79 posted on 11/17/2012 6:17:47 AM PST by robowombat
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To: ClearCase_guy

We’re in the era of more clowns than paying audience. Portions of the country are already saying “no more” but most likely the result will be divorce, not resolution.


80 posted on 11/17/2012 6:29:58 AM PST by RKBA Democrat
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