Skip to comments.Victor Davis Hanson: A Country Unhinged
Posted on 11/16/2012 6:15:00 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
In the last week, it is almost as if the entire American moral landscape has been turned upside down in eerie fashion in matters that vastly transcend fornication and adultery. The Petraeus-gate matter is the stuff of tabloids now; but soon the real issues relating to when and what Eric Holder knew, and by extension the president, and how exactly Benghazi (the crime of indifference to the besieged, the cover-up of the truth, the actual mission of our consulate and annex) fits into this labyrinth of deceit, both petty and fundamental, may overshadow the present sensationalism.
Nothing seems real anymore, not pre-election federal data on jobs or food stamps or the release of such facts; not foreign-policy information like an Iranian attack on a drone; not the supposedly competent federal relief in response to Hurricane Sandy. Even Saddam Husseins plebiscites could not achieve margins like the 19,605 to 0 we saw in 59 Philadelphia precincts. Does anyone care?
Susan Rice, who flat out deceived five times in a single day on national TV, is supposedly seriously being considered as Secretary of State when Ms. Clinton leaves the latter now plans to be busy when hearings on Libya resume. (If a John Bolton cannot be confirmed as a UN ambassador, how could Rice avoid a filibuster?) How can anyone now read Broadwells book and assume the research and analysis are disinterested?(continued)
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Great article. Dead on.
Great article. Dead on.
These days, I find optimism difficult to come by, but when I do have an optimistic moment, I think that all of this stuff must surely lead to a society that fully embraces limited government — right? I mean: it’s an utter clown circus. Why on earth would people vote to spend $4T a year on such lies, deceit, debauchery, and incompetence? We will, as a country, wise up and eventually just say “No more” — right?
1) Only the POTUS can authorize a CBA (cross border authority) command for a rescue mission in a foreign nation.
Plus Fact Two:
2) No rescue mission was attempted.
Equals Fact Three:
3) 0bama turned his back on 41 State Dept. and CIA employees refusing to issue a CBA command and went to bed so he could go to Las Vegas the next day.
Hanson is always good. Thanks.
A keeper. Thanks!
All the Western nations are dying, and have been for over 40 years. When your highest ideal is non-discrimination & equality it blots out all rational thought. These are amazing times. In many respects we are seeing the begining of the end of the Western world. A great darkness will soon cover the globe. In 100 years I suspect civilization as we know it will be long gone.
Misreading of the evidence. He is spouting what the left is pushing. I expect better of him.
Our country has gone insane. There are parts which still work but for the most part the country is crazy.
The odd think is how countries last after they have gone insane. Rome in the time of Nero Claudious and Calligula and many more was totall 100% crazy.
What kept the government going was the civil service. Those lower paid guys who just went about their business keeping the empire going.
Eventually even the civil service will surrender and all hell breaks loose. That is where you don’t want to be either at that time of place.
We will be there soon. We alrady have a modern nero as president.
Wow, This is what needs to be repeated every hour of every day, truly pathetic.
Have not read the article yet, but my thoughts are that we are experiencing exactly what the greatest generation experienced. The roaring 20’s crash, depression and the world war that is sure to follow. Before a world can go to war, utter despair must take hold. Unfortunately, we lack the character and moral fiber of the greatest generation. So the outcome is far from certain. Guess we can find solace in the fact that millions of people feel just like us. Imagine how the Israelis feel right now. The latest rockets attacks near Tel Aviv and Jerusalem put 3.5 million Israeli’s within range.
Our enemies must look upon the apparent Apathy that has taken hold of our Nation as a sign of weakness. They will run roughshod over us knowing that we will do nothing in protest.
Four Americans Murdered due to Obama’s incompetence and whose names the average Citizen doesn't recognize, while we have Peyton Place at the Pentagon being reported on TMZ.
We are done as a Republic, no doubt about it. As soon as I realized the Kenyan won Reelection, I knew the Nation was too far gone and any hope for redemption had passed.
they didn’t vote to spend $4 trillion/yr ... that’s soooo last year
they voted to insure 0bamacare gets implemented... which will be unfounded by AT LEAST $2 trillion
which, in short means... they voted for $6 trillion in spending (where we only bring in $2 trillion)
and yes, I’m very optimistic for the future... in that I’m certain what will happen. the results tho... won’t be pleasant
The election has left me very sad, in part because I believe the answer to your question is now "no."
Another problem that can’t be solved short of a civil war is that liberals & leftists hate conservatives more than life itself. Their hate is psychotic & they would side with Islam, China, anyone & everything before they would reach out to us.....their fellow countrymen. such is the place we find ourselves at.
He sounds a bit discouraged.
Now you know what Southerners felt like in 1850’s watching Yankees slowly take power and destroy liberty.
We’re in something of a bubble. No need to fear. Cheaters and diabolical forces will get what is coming.
“Don’t know why, but I think that if Israel suffered a Nuclear attack the Pretender In Chief would just let it happen.”
I think you feel that way because he gives you reason to do so.
A friend calls it "The Endarkenment".
No. Some people will do just that, just not a majority.
We are now an a-morilistic society ... it didn't happen over night, but this last election confirmed it.
Now you will see explicit examples of the decline of American values and the rise of true debauchery of the American people in the months and years ahead.
Just like colonel whats-his-face said to John Rambo ... “It's over Johnny” ... and it ain't coming back.
This is another fact which should be loudly broadcast. It is truly a tragedy that four brave souls lost their lives, but if not for their bravery we might have had 41 dead or kidnapped Americans.
“honorary consul general”
“Mrs. Kelley is not a consul general. She is to accredited diplomats as our old chum Dr. Michael Mann is to Nobel laureates. She was apparently given a certificate by CentCom as an honorary ambassador the sort of baloney the U.S. government does far too much of. Hence, the present absurdity:
On the one hand, a real ambassador at a real consulate under siege calls Washington for help and gets crickets chirping.”
`Honorary consul general’ sounds better than “courtesan”. This is corruption, decadence and shamelessness on stilts.
You are absolutely correct.
For a filibuster to stop Susan Rice most of the Republicans would have to stand firm...hard to imagine them doing that in the face of the inevitable accusations of racism.
Holder and Obama: Implausible deniability.
The POTUS is sure quick to order cross border kills (drones) but not cross border saves.
We are fast approaching the point where we run out of stuff to give the parasites. And, the parasites are fast approaching the point where they outnumber us - the hosts. As in Biology 101, when the parasites outnumber the hosts, they will begin to eat the hosts. When the hosts are gone, the parasites will begin to eat each other. One consolation - we will be the first to go. This is not an attempt at levity.
You are so full of it. Don’t give me that crap about Southern liberty when the south was keeping millions in slavery!
It's not even a question of numbers. Personal experience has shown me that if a person has a certain skin color, they are perceived by people of another skin color as being a "have" (regardless of their own personal circumstances) and are therefore seen as "owing" the second group (who designate themselves "the have nots") something.
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Three questions for Benghazi-Coward Obama:
1.) Are you HIDING INFORMATION from the US Congress about the Benghazi Massacre?
2.) Have you been LYING to the US Congress, The Media, or the American Public about the Benghazi Massacre?
3.) Were you, as Commander in Chief, GROSSLY NEGLIGENT about your responsibilities to protect and assist those four Americans who subsequently were murdered in the Benghazi Massacre?
BTW, the large cap words were the same as the 3 charges handed down yesterday to BP for punishment of their Gulf of Mexico underwater blowout, a while back.
Since the US Government is going to hold a company accountable for their poor decisions, then it should hold its CIC accountable his poor decisions, AND use the same legal charges.
Yes, he is. Drone strikes by the dozen in Pakistan without their permission. Drone strikes in Yemen. A major assault on the ground in a residential neighborhood to get bin Laden.
I feel the same way. I look at every post I've made here since the election and I see they've almost all been cynical, dripping with sarcasm and contempt. Truth is, I just can't process how we lost this one. It isn't like '96 when we fielded a lousy candidate against Clinton enjoying a gangbuster economy. In this case, we fielded a decent, competent man against one of the worst economies ever and still had our asses handed to us.
I just feel that demographics have finally turned against us. Run a moderate and we lose the base. Run a conservative and we lose the middle. Either way, we lose. We've lost every demographic short of white males over 30 and married white females. This just can't cut it anymore. Nobody seems to be buying what we're selling and we'll never be able to compete against Santa Claus.
I find solace in the fact that I'm employed, have a great wife and beautiful kids. I think that from here on out, I'm just going to stand on the sidelines and watch it all crumble, making sure I look after me and mine.
>> Nothing seems real anymore
Corruption and being violated has a way of giving that impression.
Look, folks, we’re dealing with the “perfect storm” of deceit, misinformation, omissions, and greed. First, we modify the way information is disseminated to the citizens.
This is all very depressing....but facts are facts. We can’t ignore what we are seeing.
I agree with you.The election has made me pretty much indifferent to politics The America that I knew as a kid some forty-five years ago has vanished and in it’s place is something I just don’t understand. Obama has seen to it to create a dependent class that will scream and holler if their ‘’free stuff’ is not forth coming.
This election has made me *totally* indifferent to the suffering of Obama supporters.
What has changed is the demographics.
If only the white vote is taken into account it was 60-39 for Romney. A landslide. The America we all remember.
We grew up in a country where a white majority had standards, rules, laws, accountability, logic and most importantly rationality. The majority of whites - 60% still understand and respect the constitution.
While whites are still the majority but minorities grew just enough to join with the kooky white minority which has always existed to tip the scales in favor of the left.
The politicians are acting like they don’t have to answer to the majority of whites - 60% that are in an absolute rage about the criminal dysfunction. In fact, politicians of both stripes are scrambling to grant citizenship to illegals in an attempt to marginalize white voters who want all of these criminals held accountable.
51% (total Obama vote) - 39% (white) = 12% (all minorities)
That tiny differential of new minority voters is causing massive destruction. The tipping point where a tiny group pushed us over the edge since there are a large number of white people that are just too plain lazy or too apathetic to vote in the first place.
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