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The Benghazi Debacle Is About To Go Into Full Cover-Up Mode Today…
thehayride.com ^ | Thursday, November 15, 2012, 9:40 | MacAoidh

Posted on 11/16/2012 1:09:07 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

…if what Eli Lake at the Daily Beast reports is true.

When the CIA’s acting director, Michael Morell, testifies Thursday before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, he is expected to say that the agency never requested Europe-based special operations teams, specialized Marine platoons, or armed drones on the night of the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi, Libya, according to a senior U.S. intelligence official.

The disclosure may put an end to one line of inquiry into the Benghazi affair about why reinforcements from the region were not sent on the night of the attack. “Assistance from the U.S. military was critical, and we got what we requested,” the senior U.S. intelligence official said.

According to a Pentagon timeline made public last week, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta prepared multiple military responses from the region at around midnight Benghazi time, more than two hours after the initial assault began. Those orders included mobilizing two special Marine platoons known as Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) from Rota, Spain, to deploy to Tripoli and Benghazi. Panetta also ordered a special operations force, training in central Europe, to deploy at the Signonella Airbase in Italy. Another special operations team based in the United States also prepared to deploy to Libya.

The CIA, however, requested none of that assistance. Neither did the State Department. None of those teams ever arrived in Benghazi.

This is directly contradictory to Jennifer Griffin’s reporting at Fox News. Griffin has multiple sources who were on the ground in Benghazi feeding her the claim that the team at the CIA annex asked repeatedly for backup.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; beenghazigate; benghazi; benghazicoverup; benghazidebacle; benghazigate; benghazihearings; bho44; cia; morell; petraeus; soshillary

1 posted on 11/16/2012 1:09:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; onyx; GeronL; SunkenCiv; blam; Grampa Dave
Well,....we might get out of the sex scandale loop ....this rabbit is worth chasing...

It is a really serious question....

2 posted on 11/16/2012 1:12:25 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Aided and abetted by the criminal MSM.
3 posted on 11/16/2012 1:15:48 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
The thing is, why didn't anybody help those Americans? They knew they were under attack in the first few minutes. WHERE WAS OBAMA????

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

4 posted on 11/16/2012 1:17:28 PM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
IF O was more like George Washington and heeded him and avoided foreign entanglements and illogical alliances and decisions, he would appear to be less like the snake he is..

He's in CIYA Mode

5 posted on 11/16/2012 1:19:32 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Was obama doing his evening prayers?


6 posted on 11/16/2012 1:19:45 PM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: MestaMachine
How about this theory......

Petraeus had to go....not because of the sexy thing....but because he wouldn''t support the Line: CIA never requested Military help

7 posted on 11/16/2012 1:20:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well,....we might get out of the sex scandale loop

Not very likely at all. There is a reason why AP is reporting that the Kellye sisters visited the WH three times, blah blah blah.....

They are banking on the salacious nature of the General Officers' Sex scandal trumping anything so trivial as a conflict in what the WH is reporting about events long past (in their mind and now whose accusations by the opposition are being blasted as racist against that poor black woman Rice)..

I was wondering why AP was actually investigating the connection to the girls, but now I know...they're running blocking for the real problem.

8 posted on 11/16/2012 1:20:17 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I am perfectly prepared to believe that “the agency” did not formally request help.

It was the two guys fighting it out on the ground who were calling for help.

They were ignored.

No one in Washington needed to bother with filing and then denying a formal request. A written request might look bad the day after, when the cleanup crew is hauling the bodies out of Fort Apache. A quiet phone call was all that was needed.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 1:21:58 PM PST by sphinx
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

@EliLake: One of my mentors scoops me on Benghazi. Obama’s PDB on 9-14 said it #benghazi was terrorism http://www.washingtonguardian.com/what-obama-knew-benghazi


10 posted on 11/16/2012 1:22:03 PM PST by ironman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

But he DID support it first time around. So what changed his mind? Pressure from inside his own ranks?


11 posted on 11/16/2012 1:26:51 PM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: MestaMachine
What my Local RINO infested Afternoon Radio shows tells me is that "He Just didn't know (they were under attack)"

B.S! It is impossible for the POTUS NOT to know something like that is going down. Its not even like it was a 15 minute thing and done, the battle lasted for 7 HOURS!

12 posted on 11/16/2012 1:26:51 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Bitsy
Aided and abetted by the criminal MSM.

This times 100. I was naive enough to think the MSM was mostly hopelessly biased, but having watched the MSM's performance during election season, it is absolutely clear that they have devolved into Obama's Pravda. NOTHING negative to Obama will ever be reported straight again by the MSM and they will go out of their way to broadcast the party narrative. They are already doing it here - notice how they edited out Kelly Ayotte as one of the Senators criticizing Obama and are now jumping on the "look at the sexist, racist pigs attacking the noble Susan Rice!" narrative.
13 posted on 11/16/2012 1:26:57 PM PST by rockvillem
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Pay close attention to the words, because this is Clintonesque. The agency didn't request military help. Not State. Not individuals. Not the Ambassador. Not the SEALs. There is a lot here that is not being disclosed.
14 posted on 11/16/2012 1:28:11 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: "It is a really serious question...."
I couldn't agree more.
15 posted on 11/16/2012 1:29:01 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Why are they going to such extremes to cover up for Obama?

What could be in it for them to do that?

16 posted on 11/16/2012 1:30:32 PM PST by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Conundrum: Whom do I believe, Jennifer Griffin or Daily Beast?


17 posted on 11/16/2012 1:32:30 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Absolutely.

My guess is that they were threatening to expose the affair if he did not testify in a way helpful to the Admin. He said no deal and leaked the affair himself.


18 posted on 11/16/2012 1:36:10 PM PST by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The CIA, however, requested none of that assistance. Neither did the State Department. None of those teams ever arrived in Benghazi.

Is that the excuse now? Panetta got the forces ready but the CIA and State Dept. didn't request them? So the Sec. Def. can't deploy DoD assets unless an ancillary agency asks him to? ROTFLOL

Only the POTUS had the authority to act!

0bama was notified immediately and automatically when the Benghazi consulate triggered the "Imminent Danger Notification System" alert. He did nothing.

Judge Jeanine Investigates Benghazi Gate Part 4 - 10/20/2012 video 6:53
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer (U.S. Army ret.), former CIA Station Chief Gary Berntsen and former CIA operative Mike Baker

They confirm everything Col. Hunt said about automatic notifications to the WH and add more details.

Howie Carr interview with Col. Hunt On The Newest Libyan Revelations audio 28:37

There are three scandals here...

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Denial of requests for security were a dereliction of duty. The lies and misdirection about the "video" after the attack were fraud and malfeasance under the color of authority. The inaction during the attack was something more than that.

The failure to act during the attack is the direct equivalent of desertion IMO.

ONE man had the authority to act that night.

ONE man deserted his post!

EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say

0bama abandoned his post. 0bama Is A Deserter!

19 posted on 11/16/2012 1:37:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Old Sarge; madmominct; annieokie; All

Three questions for Benghazi-Coward Obama:

1.) Are you HIDING INFORMATION from the US Congress about the Benghazi Massacre?

2.) Have you been LYING to the US Congress, The Media, or the American Public about the Benghazi Massacre?

3.) Were you, as Commander in Chief, GROSSLY NEGLIGENT about your responsibilities to protect and assist those four Americans who subsequently were murdered in the Benghazi Massacre?

BTW, the large cap words were the same as the 3 charges handed down yesterday yo BP for punishment of their Gulf of Mexico underwater blowout, a while back.

Since the US Government is going to hold a company accountable for their poor decisions, then it should hold its CIC accountable his poor decisions, AND use the same legal charges.


20 posted on 11/16/2012 1:42:11 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: LADY J

They will be favored in the new kingdom....there is already agitation for a third term for Obama....not sure where I saw that though.


21 posted on 11/16/2012 1:43:58 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: sphinx

You are correct.

Their request was up their chain of command. Either their CIA boss or the State Department boss chose not to respond or their second level boss chose not to command.

Based on the Congressional hearings, the woman kicked it up and the request was denied at State.

The CIA did not make the request to DOD.


22 posted on 11/16/2012 1:44:43 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So it is up to the Americans under attack to request the appropriate protection? Send the FAST team! Any nobody there said the magic words. Are they really to have us believe that?

Are we to believe that the mission/consulate guy on the radio with DC died without conveying the gravity of the situation. That the drones taking pictures of the whole thing did not convey the gravity of the situation. That the former SEALS, who lost their lives, did not convey the gravity of the situation.

Really?

That is nonsense.


- Too much uncertainty, we can’t send the military into Benghazi.

This was Panetta’s story, that He and General Ham (according to Panetta) thought, because of the uncertainty, that the mission was too risky. I think Panetta implicated another General in that decision also.

But, being the Sec Def - the Generals take orders in that situation, not give them. So Panetta is either implicating himself, or he was operating under the president’s direction.

Secondly, on the point of the lives of Americans, Peter King confirmed that the topic was discussed and that he could not comment at this time.
(Right after Petraeus’ testimony)

Peter King (committee chair) would not comment on the aspect of who called for back-up and who denied cross-border support for the 41 Americans in Benghazi.

It seems to me that if Petraeus exonerated Obama, that King would come forward with that story, or the dems in the room would.

Now, if Petraeus said Obama left those Americans to die at the hands of terrorists, then that information would be handled in a very special way. It would not be leaked by the Dems, and the republicans would have to have several meetings on what to do with it.

THIS IS A CASE OF THE DOG (DEMS) NOT BARKING!


23 posted on 11/16/2012 1:45:40 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: MestaMachine
The thing is, why didn't anybody help those Americans? They knew they were under attack in the first few minutes. WHERE WAS OBAMA???? EXACTLY!
24 posted on 11/16/2012 1:46:24 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11 0bie don' t eatl my dog!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There is no excuse,this building had been attacked numerous times in Previous Months,The British ambassador had been attacked,the Red Cross was attacked,they both left,Alqueda Flags were flying in the area,Mr. Stephens had requested More security Multiple times. This BS they could not get anyone there in time, Why Not,were you deaf Dumb and Blind?


25 posted on 11/16/2012 1:52:04 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

There is no excuse,this building had been attacked numerous times in Previous Months,The British ambassador had been attacked,the Red Cross was attacked,they both left,Alqueda Flags were flying in the area,Mr. Stephens had requested More security Multiple times. This BS they could not get anyone there in time, Why Not,were you deaf Dumb and Blind?


26 posted on 11/16/2012 1:52:17 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; BIGLOOK

A new crisis for the left wing mediots to exploit and divert the average Joe’s attention away from Libya/Benghazi will probably start this weekend and probably be full bore in time for the Sunday TV Liberal mediots lying programs


27 posted on 11/16/2012 2:00:28 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Tagline space for rent to pay for some of my extra taxes the next 4 years!)
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To: Grampa Dave

New question for interviewers:

Who prepared your talking points and who gave them to you?


28 posted on 11/16/2012 2:01:59 PM PST by morphing libertarian
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Never asked?....Well then why did Panetta say he and the Joint Chief decided they would not send assistance because there was not enough time to deploy. Why would he say that if those being assaulted never requested assistance. One comment makes the other unnecessary....but only if you think Panetta is clairvoiant. How could he have known how long the battle would rage? 7 hours....7 days....How could he have know antecedent to its final moment?


29 posted on 11/16/2012 2:06:45 PM PST by Texas Songwriter ( i)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I find it difficult to believe the former Seal would have given up his position by painting a target with his laser, if he did not believe assets were not only on the way, but on the scene.


30 posted on 11/16/2012 2:21:55 PM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: bert
Based on the Congressional hearings, the woman kicked it up and the request was denied at State. The CIA did not make the request to DOD.

The POTUS and the Sec. Def. were watching it in the WH sit-room. Why would anyone need to make a request for help?

Fact One:

1) Only the POTUS can authorize a CBA (cross border authority) command for a rescue mission in a foreign nation.

Plus Fact Two:

2) No rescue mission was attempted.

Equals Fact Three:

3) 0bama turned his back on 41 State Dept. and CIA employees refusing to issue a CBA command and went to bed so he could go to Las Vegas the next day.

31 posted on 11/16/2012 2:26:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh, for crying out loud. The Obama administration is telling the Republicans a story and saying it’s about national security. Who the heck do they think got us into this mess in Benghazi? It was the same Obama administration that’s telling them now that they can fix it if it’s just kept quiet. I’d be hard pressed to think of anything more dangerous to our country than this inept group of liars and grifters and socialist hacks known as The Obama Administration.


32 posted on 11/16/2012 2:33:29 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: TigersEye

All that is true but not on point.

The point is that the CIA acting director was likely correct when he said CIA did not request help from DOD. That was the discussion. He made a point that is probably both correct and CYA

As you noted, he did not need to make the request to DOD


33 posted on 11/16/2012 2:36:50 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

No cross border authorization. Thats why no request.

They knew that this needed to be granted to allow that type of movement/aid

The weasels are “wording “ everthing now.

Think the meaning of “ is” and it becomes clear we are getting the rope a dope.

Subpoena Obama... He’s the only one who can authorize CBA.....


34 posted on 11/16/2012 2:43:04 PM PST by patriotspride
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ahhhhhhh.....legalese........OK......if we’re going to play word games......let’s hold the hearings in Benghazi. No troops, just the actors involved in this comedy of errors. We’ll set up some cameras and microphones and speakers and we’ll have the Senators and Representatives partipate via satellite from Washington, D.C. No bodyguards and we announce to the local populace who’s going to be at the facilities in Benghazi and when. I think Hillary and Panetta and Dempsey and Petraeus and Clapper and Rice and several more should testify from the scene of the action. They might get attacked? Not to worry. We’ll provide the same level of support provided to those people killed in Benghazi. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander and these pompous idiots.


35 posted on 11/16/2012 2:46:12 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: colorado tanker

Pay close attention to the words, because this is Clintonesque. The agency didn’t request military help. Not State. Not individuals. Not the Ambassador. Not the SEALs. There is a lot here that is not being disclosed.


Agree. Weasels at work.


36 posted on 11/16/2012 2:47:09 PM PST by patriotspride
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To: bert

If it’s true then it’s not really a CYA for Petraeus and the CIA it’s just the truth. But the point of anyone making that fact some kind of relevant point is just an attempted CYA for 0coward.


37 posted on 11/16/2012 2:55:48 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: rockvillem

38 posted on 11/16/2012 3:26:37 PM PST by haffast
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To: MestaMachine
Don't know this for certain, Mesta. Something, in my gut, is saying the Stand Down Order was in place before the attack. No proof, just speculation. obama was, as is known, unconcerned. No cancellation of campaign plans. An involved President does not Stand Down to campaign when an Ambassador loses life with Seals. Gut Reaction for a President would be quick moves in the information age, therefore gut says Stand Down Order was in place before the attack. If Stand Down Order was in place, BIG IF, people know. It cannot be dug out though. Coverup too BIG. Open Hearings, in Senate and House, may get to the truth. imho ... only possible chance.
39 posted on 11/16/2012 4:56:30 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: haffast

LOL!


40 posted on 11/16/2012 5:13:04 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

41 posted on 11/16/2012 5:17:37 PM PST by haffast
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What about the Counterterrorism Security Group? Why was it not convened that night to coordinate the response? Someone needs to ask that question.


42 posted on 11/16/2012 5:20:45 PM PST by Wendy44
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To: Wendy44
Like the story of the rabbit and the snare. Hang a running rabbit. Don't call brer Bear or the rabbit will get away. Keep the tar-baby on the trail. No better trap!
43 posted on 11/16/2012 6:01:40 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Wendy44

Good question.

Send it to Greta....she has a list and can add that one!


44 posted on 11/16/2012 6:01:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I think I will. It should have been the first thing they did.


45 posted on 11/16/2012 6:38:47 PM PST by Wendy44
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