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1 posted on 11/16/2012 1:09:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Marine_Uncle; TigersEye; onyx; GeronL; SunkenCiv; blam; Grampa Dave
Well,....we might get out of the sex scandale loop ....this rabbit is worth chasing...

It is a really serious question....

2 posted on 11/16/2012 1:12:25 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Aided and abetted by the criminal MSM.
3 posted on 11/16/2012 1:15:48 PM PST by Bitsy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
IF O was more like George Washington and heeded him and avoided foreign entanglements and illogical alliances and decisions, he would appear to be less like the snake he is..

He's in CIYA Mode

5 posted on 11/16/2012 1:19:32 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I am perfectly prepared to believe that “the agency” did not formally request help.

It was the two guys fighting it out on the ground who were calling for help.

They were ignored.

No one in Washington needed to bother with filing and then denying a formal request. A written request might look bad the day after, when the cleanup crew is hauling the bodies out of Fort Apache. A quiet phone call was all that was needed.


9 posted on 11/16/2012 1:21:58 PM PST by sphinx
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

@EliLake: One of my mentors scoops me on Benghazi. Obama’s PDB on 9-14 said it #benghazi was terrorism http://www.washingtonguardian.com/what-obama-knew-benghazi


10 posted on 11/16/2012 1:22:03 PM PST by ironman
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Pay close attention to the words, because this is Clintonesque. The agency didn't request military help. Not State. Not individuals. Not the Ambassador. Not the SEALs. There is a lot here that is not being disclosed.
14 posted on 11/16/2012 1:28:11 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Why are they going to such extremes to cover up for Obama?

What could be in it for them to do that?

16 posted on 11/16/2012 1:30:32 PM PST by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Conundrum: Whom do I believe, Jennifer Griffin or Daily Beast?


17 posted on 11/16/2012 1:32:30 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The CIA, however, requested none of that assistance. Neither did the State Department. None of those teams ever arrived in Benghazi.

Is that the excuse now? Panetta got the forces ready but the CIA and State Dept. didn't request them? So the Sec. Def. can't deploy DoD assets unless an ancillary agency asks him to? ROTFLOL

Only the POTUS had the authority to act!

0bama was notified immediately and automatically when the Benghazi consulate triggered the "Imminent Danger Notification System" alert. He did nothing.

Judge Jeanine Investigates Benghazi Gate Part 4 - 10/20/2012 video 6:53
Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer (U.S. Army ret.), former CIA Station Chief Gary Berntsen and former CIA operative Mike Baker

They confirm everything Col. Hunt said about automatic notifications to the WH and add more details.

Howie Carr interview with Col. Hunt On The Newest Libyan Revelations audio 28:37

There are three scandals here...

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Denial of requests for security were a dereliction of duty. The lies and misdirection about the "video" after the attack were fraud and malfeasance under the color of authority. The inaction during the attack was something more than that.

The failure to act during the attack is the direct equivalent of desertion IMO.

ONE man had the authority to act that night.

ONE man deserted his post!

EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say

0bama abandoned his post. 0bama Is A Deserter!

19 posted on 11/16/2012 1:37:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Old Sarge; madmominct; annieokie; All

Three questions for Benghazi-Coward Obama:

1.) Are you HIDING INFORMATION from the US Congress about the Benghazi Massacre?

2.) Have you been LYING to the US Congress, The Media, or the American Public about the Benghazi Massacre?

3.) Were you, as Commander in Chief, GROSSLY NEGLIGENT about your responsibilities to protect and assist those four Americans who subsequently were murdered in the Benghazi Massacre?

BTW, the large cap words were the same as the 3 charges handed down yesterday yo BP for punishment of their Gulf of Mexico underwater blowout, a while back.

Since the US Government is going to hold a company accountable for their poor decisions, then it should hold its CIC accountable his poor decisions, AND use the same legal charges.


20 posted on 11/16/2012 1:42:11 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

So it is up to the Americans under attack to request the appropriate protection? Send the FAST team! Any nobody there said the magic words. Are they really to have us believe that?

Are we to believe that the mission/consulate guy on the radio with DC died without conveying the gravity of the situation. That the drones taking pictures of the whole thing did not convey the gravity of the situation. That the former SEALS, who lost their lives, did not convey the gravity of the situation.

Really?

That is nonsense.


- Too much uncertainty, we can’t send the military into Benghazi.

This was Panetta’s story, that He and General Ham (according to Panetta) thought, because of the uncertainty, that the mission was too risky. I think Panetta implicated another General in that decision also.

But, being the Sec Def - the Generals take orders in that situation, not give them. So Panetta is either implicating himself, or he was operating under the president’s direction.

Secondly, on the point of the lives of Americans, Peter King confirmed that the topic was discussed and that he could not comment at this time.
(Right after Petraeus’ testimony)

Peter King (committee chair) would not comment on the aspect of who called for back-up and who denied cross-border support for the 41 Americans in Benghazi.

It seems to me that if Petraeus exonerated Obama, that King would come forward with that story, or the dems in the room would.

Now, if Petraeus said Obama left those Americans to die at the hands of terrorists, then that information would be handled in a very special way. It would not be leaked by the Dems, and the republicans would have to have several meetings on what to do with it.

THIS IS A CASE OF THE DOG (DEMS) NOT BARKING!


23 posted on 11/16/2012 1:45:40 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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There is no excuse,this building had been attacked numerous times in Previous Months,The British ambassador had been attacked,the Red Cross was attacked,they both left,Alqueda Flags were flying in the area,Mr. Stephens had requested More security Multiple times. This BS they could not get anyone there in time, Why Not,were you deaf Dumb and Blind?


25 posted on 11/16/2012 1:52:04 PM PST by ballplayer
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There is no excuse,this building had been attacked numerous times in Previous Months,The British ambassador had been attacked,the Red Cross was attacked,they both left,Alqueda Flags were flying in the area,Mr. Stephens had requested More security Multiple times. This BS they could not get anyone there in time, Why Not,were you deaf Dumb and Blind?


26 posted on 11/16/2012 1:52:17 PM PST by ballplayer
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Never asked?....Well then why did Panetta say he and the Joint Chief decided they would not send assistance because there was not enough time to deploy. Why would he say that if those being assaulted never requested assistance. One comment makes the other unnecessary....but only if you think Panetta is clairvoiant. How could he have known how long the battle would rage? 7 hours....7 days....How could he have know antecedent to its final moment?


29 posted on 11/16/2012 2:06:45 PM PST by Texas Songwriter ( i)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I find it difficult to believe the former Seal would have given up his position by painting a target with his laser, if he did not believe assets were not only on the way, but on the scene.


30 posted on 11/16/2012 2:21:55 PM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Oh, for crying out loud. The Obama administration is telling the Republicans a story and saying it’s about national security. Who the heck do they think got us into this mess in Benghazi? It was the same Obama administration that’s telling them now that they can fix it if it’s just kept quiet. I’d be hard pressed to think of anything more dangerous to our country than this inept group of liars and grifters and socialist hacks known as The Obama Administration.


32 posted on 11/16/2012 2:33:29 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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No cross border authorization. Thats why no request.

They knew that this needed to be granted to allow that type of movement/aid

The weasels are “wording “ everthing now.

Think the meaning of “ is” and it becomes clear we are getting the rope a dope.

Subpoena Obama... He’s the only one who can authorize CBA.....


34 posted on 11/16/2012 2:43:04 PM PST by patriotspride
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Ahhhhhhh.....legalese........OK......if we’re going to play word games......let’s hold the hearings in Benghazi. No troops, just the actors involved in this comedy of errors. We’ll set up some cameras and microphones and speakers and we’ll have the Senators and Representatives partipate via satellite from Washington, D.C. No bodyguards and we announce to the local populace who’s going to be at the facilities in Benghazi and when. I think Hillary and Panetta and Dempsey and Petraeus and Clapper and Rice and several more should testify from the scene of the action. They might get attacked? Not to worry. We’ll provide the same level of support provided to those people killed in Benghazi. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander and these pompous idiots.


35 posted on 11/16/2012 2:46:12 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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