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Plains: Democrat Takes Close N.D. Senate Race--- {(Damn you RNC and splitters!)}
Roll Call ^

Posted on 11/10/2012 4:18:55 AM PST by SMGFan

Former North Dakota Attorney General Heidi Heitkamp (D) pulled off a major upset, narrowly defeating Republican Rep. Rick Berg in the race to succeed retiring Democratic Sen. Kent Conrad. North Dakota is one of the most solidly Republican states — President Barack Obama won only 39 percent of the vote there — and Heitkamp beat Berg by a razor-thin margin — 3,000 votes, just 1 point.

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To: texas booster

“I think that most evangelicals voted for Romney as the lesser of two evils.”

That didn’t happen until after Wisconsin. Prior to then evangelicals voted for whomever wasn’t Romney.


21 posted on 11/10/2012 5:15:22 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: silverleaf

Only Deb Fischer bucked the Democrat Senate tide. This was no surprise, ND has been voting Democrat for the Senate at least since 1958, with Q. Burdick. And it is seen as overly ambitious for a one-term or even two-term representative to run for the Senate. Better to wait five or six terms before running. ND obviously did not want the pipeline built either, or the people were too uninformed to know that it will never be built under a Democrat Senate and President.

I wonder too if Todd Akin would have lost had he never uttered that misuse of the word “legitimate”? There was a huge Democrat Senate trend Tuesday nighht, as the hapless party dropped two seats overall.


22 posted on 11/10/2012 5:17:46 AM PST by Theodore R. (Once again the American people have been found sorely wanting.)
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To: Usagi_yo

“Stop making pro-choice/pro-life a single issue for candidacy.”

The democrat party is over there ->


23 posted on 11/10/2012 5:17:58 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: TNCMAXQ
I was out in South Dakota for several days in September of 2004 -- in the heat of the 2004 presidential election and Tom Daschle's re-election bid for his U.S. Senate seat. If you saw the billboards along I-90 and listened to the radio ads, you would have sworn that Daschle was a conservative Republican who had endorsed Bush against Kerry. Fortunately for the GOP, it was learned that Daschle had been listing his D.C. home as his primary residence and therefore there was some question about whether he was legally eligible to represent South Dakota in the U.S. Senate. There was never any kind of legal challenge in the works, but his opponent draped that around his neck like an anchor and defeated him.

The thing you have to remember about these Democratic candidates run campaigns in their home states that are very different than the images they present when they're on MSNBC in a "national mode" in a party leadership role.

24 posted on 11/10/2012 5:27:53 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: SMGFan

Bye Bye ND oil revenues.


25 posted on 11/10/2012 5:33:43 AM PST by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: Alberta's Child

Yeah but they vote with Reid and Pelosi on anything that really matters.


26 posted on 11/10/2012 5:34:46 AM PST by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: LRoggy

Not this time. The Republicans won all state wide offices and have super majorities in both the state house and state senate. Kevin Cramer, the Republican, won with 55% of the vote, the house seat vacated by Berg.

My own opinion the Rats made Berg the issue and poured lot’s of money into the race. Rick Berg was was state rep when I lived in Fargo, My parents and I worked on his campaigns when he first ran. He is a great guy. He worked for investment company and did very well. That company had a property management company that Rick had no connection with, but the Rats found tenants that the property management company had evicted and they blamed Berg.
The Rats followed a typical Alinsky strategy-and they won!


27 posted on 11/10/2012 5:36:29 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: TNCMAXQ
Many of these states that always vote Republican for president have preferred liberal Demo senators. Makes no sense but it’s been the case for decades.

A GOP President doesn't directly bring home the bacon but the Senators and their one Rep do.

I was stationed there for nearly eight years and was disgusted at ND politics. NoDaks pride themselves in getting one of the highest returns in taxes for their money. They get much more in Federal cash than they pay in taxes and they think they are owed that cash.

Their two Senators and one Rep campaign on how they will bring in the dollars. Dems are the best in promising free money..

28 posted on 11/10/2012 5:39:59 AM PST by OldMissileer
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To: Theodore R.

I’m surprised Fischer won as easily as she did when we look at what happened in other states. One poll showed her lead way down too.

You think another GOPer could have won in ND? I had heard Berg was not the strongest guy they could have put up. At least his House seat remained Republican.

I agree about Akin. He might have lost anyway. People were just too stuck on stupid, and all the outrages of the last 4 years seem to have been forgotten, even in red states.


29 posted on 11/10/2012 5:41:48 AM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: Alberta's Child

ABSOLUTELY CORRECT!!

Bryon Dorgan, congressman and then senator from North Dakota
did the exact same thing. Some years ago, the son of a friend of mine graduated from West Point. They had a commissioning ceremony near Fargo. Then Congressman Dorgan was invited to speak. What he said would have made almost all FREEPERS pround (except the trolls). He talked about the men and women in uniform and the sacrifices they make.
He waxed eloquent about the military and West Point. That is how he and Conrad did it and got re-elected. Left wing in DC and conservative patriots back in ND


30 posted on 11/10/2012 5:43:39 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: JCBreckenridge

I’m libertarian and I don’t make pro-choice/pro-life the single issue that determines my preferred candidate.


31 posted on 11/10/2012 5:52:17 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

So why are you attacking those that want a candidate that supports what they believe?

If you want a pro-abort - vote Democrat. We already have one pro-abort party. We don’t need two.


32 posted on 11/10/2012 5:55:20 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
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To: rod1
Yeah but they vote with Reid and Pelosi on anything that really matters.

That's the kind of arrogance that gets the GOP spanked in local and state elections. You have no idea what "really matters" to the voters of North Dakota, do you?

I'll give the Republican Party one bit of sage advice here, and I'll do it in the context of my reply to your post:

Turn off CNN, turn off Fox News, and fire the Beltway @ssholes who serve as the leadership for your political party and your national campaigns. Get out on the road and visit America to see what your constituents are all about.

Oh, and one more thing:

Never nominate some dope from east of the Delaware River for a presidential run again. Those places haven't been part of America in decades.

33 posted on 11/10/2012 5:58:45 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: JCBreckenridge

I’m not pro abortion, I’m pro life, but it’s not my single issue in determining candidacy. I’m also male and will never have to nor ever now what it is to to be pregnant.

The point was if you do make it a single issue in determining your candidate, you will split the vote ... just like I said in original post ... it’s inevitable.

Now would you rather have a pro-abortion candidate or a pro-life candidate that realizes there is little they can do at this point other than say they prefer life?

Are you even female where this type of decision is yours to make or just a male on a soapbox you know nothing about?


34 posted on 11/10/2012 6:10:19 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: SMGFan

I will repeat here what I said in another thread:

Berg of ND ran a very poor campaign. His dem opponent, Heidi Heitkamp painted herself independent and as much of a conservative as Berg, even though she was funded by out of state anti oil and anti military interests and is a die hard socialist.

Berg had real stupid advertising. Many of his TV adds had the following statement: “I like Heidi, but - - - “ He basically endorsed her by saying she was likeable. I put this in the same category as that “let’s reach across the isle” bullshit mentality the typical RINO has where every time you reach across the isle to a commie you lose something!

Heitkamp ran fierce attack adds, one of which painted Berg as a rich mean landlord, and he did nothing to defend himself.

Simply put, Berg brought flowers to a gunfight.


35 posted on 11/10/2012 6:11:07 AM PST by redfreedom (The spineless RINO's have made themselves irrelevent and lost the country for us.)
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To: shelterguy

“The farmers in ND always vote for a Dem Senator. They know where the subsidies come from. They are the welfare recipients of the prairie.”

That is a true statement, but is changing with the increase in farm size. The larger the farms, the fewer farmers therefore the fewer votes for subsidies. Additionally the farmer of today is more of a businessman than a poor dirt farmer.

For the longest time ND’s Washington delegation was solid Dem and a Dem governor and I believe the voting trend changed due to ND’s success outside of farming and fewer farmers. Berg’s race was close, if he had not played the RINO nice guy, he might have won.


36 posted on 11/10/2012 6:17:29 AM PST by redfreedom (The spineless RINO's have made themselves irrelevent and lost the country for us.)
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To: Usagi_yo

You don’t get it do you. We were McCain’ed again in 2012 with a RINO. If you can’t call a spade a spade, then you are no conservative and don’t let the door hit you in the a$$ on the way out. Limp wristers like you need to switch parties. Glad we just exposed another freaking RINO in our midst.


37 posted on 11/10/2012 6:34:56 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Alberta's Child

That’s what I don’t get. Are the local people seeing the local ads too stupid to see the big picture and see say a Debbie Wasserman Schultz on tv or read about her here in the news?


38 posted on 11/10/2012 6:38:05 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: Usagi_yo

Yeah right, if only conservatives would quit backing conservatism, then we win!?

You RINOs are nuts.


39 posted on 11/10/2012 6:43:01 AM PST by Varda
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To: Usagi_yo
I’m libertarian and I don’t make pro-choice/pro-life the single issue that determines my preferred candidate.

I knew it, you're no conservative and you're certainly no Ronald Reagan. Bottom line is, caving in on core conservative values is the very moment when you have crossed the line into liberalism.

40 posted on 11/10/2012 6:43:34 AM PST by Blue Highway
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