Posted on 11/07/2012 8:00:21 AM PST by mtrott
OK, is there now any doubt that the next republican presidential candidate MUST be a hispanic? IMO, there is zero chance of a republican garnering more than 5% of the black vote, and, apparently, we now have so many single women who are government-dependent that a republican cannot overcome the gender gap to any significant degree.
Since the nation seems to have been irretrievably divided up into disparate voting blocks and interest groups, it seem to me there is no other choice for the republicans than to spend the next 4 years in an all out campaign to win over the hispanic vote.
The question is, who, among prominent hispanic potential GOP candidates is the strongest alternative, and why? Rubio, Susana Martinez, and Ted Cruz immediately come to mind, but perhaps there are more. I would even go so far as to support a double hispanic ticket with a female included, such as Rubio/Martinez, Cruz/Martinez, etc. The republicans absolutely have to win in 2016, or I fear it is over for them.
I think we have to be careful in assuming because we have a Hispanic on the ticket we automatically make gains. Look at the tough time black Republicans have. We have to match the names with action. Offer real immigration reform that doesn’t allienate the Hispanics who are here legally.
“Martinez, she has the Executive experience. With Rubio as VP.”
I have no objection to that either.
Typical GOP - try to appeal to hispanics by running an hispanic. Where’s the platform for them? These guys will never learn.
Marco Rubio, the guy who couldn’t deliver Florida for Romney? That Marco Rubio?
Not for me.
I will not vote for any candidate with questionable loyalty.
It’s highly unlikely that I would vote for a Hispanic or black candidate. (One exception would be Sowell. He’d get my enthusiastic vote, but of course, he’s not running. Also a bit too old. But I do love how he thinks.) A black or Hispanic who puts racial identity first or who panders will never get my vote. A muslim will never get my vote. A “token” candidate will never get my vote. An affirmative action candidate will never get my vote.
There was a time when I would have voted for Colin Powell. His traitorous race-first attitude has poisoned the well and has made most black candidates suspect.
Rubio has shown too much interest in preferential treatment for Hispanics.
It’s not a matter of racism (though you can feel free to call me whatever you like). It’s a matter of Americanism. I will only vote for a true American. One who was born and RAISED here.
Look: Stop playing this crap. Skin tone is a liberal game.
What the next candidate needs to be is CONSERVATIVE.
The ONLY thing that will haul the CONSERVATIVE BASE out IN FORCE is a Reaganite (Socon + Ficon + Defcon)
I can guarantee you that it will be found that the Evangelical Christians were split, and that is why you lost.
That anyone expected to win with that yankee gun-grabbin baby-killer in the first place is an amazement to me.
This was entirely predictable.
The country just reelected a communist for four more years. He rules by executive order and there are no checks on his power. What makes you think there will be elections in 2016?
Doesn’t matter. Our huge welfare state and economy-stifling regulations are built-in to the system and impossible to remove. The only solution is to start a new country.
See my post: Starving the Machine
We’ll nominate the next loser in line - Paul Ryan and we’ll lose again.
Its just a GOP rule to pick the dauphin rather than a candidate who can actually win!
If she has strong economic conservative principles, it doesn’t matter if she evn speaks English at this point. Oh, and is a full on lesbian. Lets out-group identity the libs. An illegal alien lesbian. But what if they run a tranny?
Jindal
Well there goes the lesbian, cross dressing, Eskimo, midget vote.
None of the above for me.
I won’t pander to race.
I won’t vote for another RINO.
The GOP has had it’s chance and failed miserably over and over. The GOP is no longer a party of conservatives. It is a party of the political elite who will do whatever they need to do to stay in power. I’m not interested in perpetuating their power at the expense of principles.
If you run a democrat/socialist on the Republican ticket, you may win the election in the R column, but you have lost the war.
So the only way to get hispanics to listen to and consider a republican candidate is to have that candidate be republican? You may be right, but I cannot grasp that concept. I will listen to and consider all of the candidates in the next republican primary, white, hispanic, black, etc.
Agreed. He has 4 years to build infrastructure and gravitas (in the mold of Ronaldus Maximus).
He must choose the right battles and venues, unlike Gov. Palin; she blew it!
Amen.
You can see it. I can see it.
The GOP kingmakers either can’t see it or don’t care because all they care about is keeping power for themselves.
Why do you think the electorate of 2016 is going for a Conservative? I don't see it. I agree with Selwyn Duke: no conservative is ever going to win again. The country isn't conservative. The country is full of people with full sleave tattoos and holes in their ears the size of fifty cent pieces. The country is full of Mexicans. The country is full of dependent blacks, and single moms of all races, and Asians who vote like Mexicans.
It's simple. They win, we lose. They elected a new people, and the new people want Socialism. There are more of them than there are of us. They surround us, not the other way around.
The more conservative the candidate the more completely we lose. The US Presidential election is now about which figurehead sits atop our Socialist State.
“I want the best man/woman for the job. I don’t care about race.”
I don’t care about race either. But we really need to live in the real world, and sadly, millions of voters do care about race. What’s wrong with running a latino, if they are truly a conservative or center-right candidate?
Also on the subject of California:
It would have helped to have an extra million popular votes in California, and I think they would have been possible to get, but the Republican party has intentionally abandoned the state and told us to not bother voting.
We are getting starved out nationally. I think the focus on only the handful of swing states is killing us. Ever since 2000 or possibly before we are just obsessing about the details of how the electoral college works. Think of what an election looks like where we nationalize it and there is a huge popular margin of victory for the Republican, regardless of the electoral college outcome. Do that a few times and the psychology of things will change a lot.
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