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Wind farms can cause climate change, finds new study (too funny!!!)
The Telegraph ^ | November 1, 2012 | Louise gray

Posted on 11/01/2012 1:32:22 PM PDT by marstegreg

Wind farms can cause climate change, according to new research, that shows for the first time the new technology is already pushing up temperatures.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax
Usually at night the air closer to the ground becomes colder when the sun goes down and the earth cools.

But on huge wind farms the motion of the turbines mixes the air higher in the atmosphere that is warmer, pushing up the overall temperature.

Satellite data over a large area in Texas, that is now covered by four of the world's largest wind farms, found that over a decade the local temperature went up by almost 1C as more turbines are built.

This could have long term effects on wildlife living in the immediate areas of larger wind farms.

It could also affect regional weather patterns as warmer areas affect the formation of cloud and even wind speeds.

1 posted on 11/01/2012 1:32:29 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

With the number of windmills they would need to erect, I suspect the change will be far more wide ranging.


2 posted on 11/01/2012 1:38:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: marstegreg

I wonder if there is any difference in the effect if VAWT are used instead.


3 posted on 11/01/2012 1:38:08 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: marstegreg

So Conservation of Energy applies to “Green Technologies”??? Who’da thunk it?


4 posted on 11/01/2012 1:40:34 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: marstegreg

Oh NO !!
Four more windfarms and parets of Texas will become desert ?
It beginning to look more and more like Saudi Arabia .. maybe they got oil too ?
They got camels ?
Everything is bigger in Texas ,... just ask ‘em !


5 posted on 11/01/2012 1:40:37 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Bapak O6ama : Russian for the "STAND DOWN PRESIDENT" ~ (DA ! Wait until I can be more flexible !)
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To: marstegreg

Oh No, algore was finally right!


6 posted on 11/01/2012 1:41:10 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: marstegreg

Some might think this SERIESLY HUGH but, Breaking News? It is not.


7 posted on 11/01/2012 1:41:19 PM PDT by newgeezer (It is [the people's] right and duty to be at all times armed. --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: marstegreg

Wind Farms Destroy New York.....


8 posted on 11/01/2012 1:45:59 PM PDT by Gator113 (I would have voted for NEWT, now it's Romney & Ryan.~Just livin' life, my way~)
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To: marstegreg

There have been windmills (fans) in orchards for DECADES to modify the tree temperatures. This really can’t be NEWS can it?


9 posted on 11/01/2012 1:46:22 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: marstegreg
1 centigrade increase in West Texas temperature is like saying 1 centigrade lower in the arctic.

The rattle snakes wont care.

10 posted on 11/01/2012 1:50:28 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Bryanw92
So Conservation of Energy applies to “Green Technologies”???

Funny how that works innit? A few windmills here and there wouldn't have a huge effect but when we start talking about hundreds of thousands the potential grows proportionally.

We also have to start looking at airflow over the land and water and how it creates localized weather patterns or microclimates. Here in Michigan, nearly all the orchards and large scale vegetable farms are in a strip along the lake Michigan shore for a reason. Its warmest there for the longest period of the year and even more important, air rising over the land causes the rain and snow to fall there in the greatest amounts. The greenies want nearly 4000 windmills right there along the shore and God knows what effect that will have.
11 posted on 11/01/2012 1:54:44 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Paladin2

There have been windmills (fans) in orchards for DECADES to modify the tree temperatures. This really can’t be NEWS can it?

I think the size and amount of these turbines(I have seen huge fields of hundreds of these things) have a much greater impact than a few small ones here and there. What is amusing is that they are combating the very thing they are causing. In all seriousness, this could be catastrophic to weather and wildlife. Read the article.


12 posted on 11/01/2012 1:55:14 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: Paladin2
There have been windmills (fans) in orchards for DECADES to modify the tree temperatures.

Yep, the vineyards around here use them for frost protection regularly.

13 posted on 11/01/2012 1:56:43 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: DainBramage

1 centigrade increase in West Texas temperature is like saying 1 centigrade lower in the arctic.

I think this approach to clean energy is in it’s infancy on a large scale. At the rate these turbines/wind farms are going up worldwide, this is definately something that needs to be looked into. Isn’t the whole premise of “clean energy” to STOP global warming. This seems to be causing it.


14 posted on 11/01/2012 2:06:48 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

This is crap.

If the wind turbines are extracting energy from the wind, the air cools.

In a jet engine, the gas flowing through the turbine cools hundreds of degrees in milliseconds.


15 posted on 11/01/2012 2:10:40 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

In a jet engine, the gas flowing through the turbine cools hundreds of degrees in milliseconds.

Even if the rise in temperature is slight, I think that changing the wind/weather patterns is an equally important issue. I really think this article makes sense. Actually, a lot more sense than regulating Carbon. When you have hundreds of these things in the same area there have to be changes in wind speed and direction. That alone could change in weather patterns. If these are all over the world imagine how much of an impact they could have on weather as the global warmists put up more and more of them.


16 posted on 11/01/2012 2:24:07 PM PDT by marstegreg
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To: marstegreg

Geez, ya think?


17 posted on 11/01/2012 2:24:29 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: cripplecreek

Wind Farms Causing Climate Change, Study Suggests

http://asspos.blogspot.com/2012/11/wind-farms-causing-climate-change-study.html


18 posted on 11/01/2012 2:29:33 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: marstegreg

This entire process can easily be simulated using existing software that is presently used to simulate gaseous discharges from elevated stacks a.k.a. “dispersion modeling”.

Of course, Algore may want to modify the math before running the program.


19 posted on 11/01/2012 2:41:26 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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" It could also affect regional weather patterns as warmer areas affect the formation of cloud and even wind speeds."

Talk about unintended consequences.

Could explain the devastating drought most of the USA had this year.


20 posted on 11/01/2012 2:48:45 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist
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To: marstegreg

Ah ha! I knew it was Obama’s fault. If only he’d had the entire Hill stand out on the front lawn and blown their hot air in the direction of Sandy, he could have diverted this disaster.


21 posted on 11/01/2012 3:05:01 PM PDT by bgill (Evil doers are in every corner of our government. Have we passed the point of no return?)
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ping


22 posted on 11/01/2012 3:09:55 PM PDT by Cyclone59 (Obama is like Ron Burgundy - he will read ANYTHING that is on the teleprompter)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Could explain the devastating drought most of the USA had this year.

I personally doubt there are enough of the monuments to stupidity to have that kind of effect yet but I certainly do think it would be possible if the greenunists got their way and erected hundreds of thousands of windmills. (They want nearly 4000 in Michigan alone.)
23 posted on 11/01/2012 3:10:06 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: DainBramage
1 centigrade increase in West Texas temperature is like saying 1 centigrade lower in the arctic.

We have a few million people living in West Texas. And the temperature in West Texas eventually affects temperatures east. There was also a horrific string of over 100 F days two summers ago. Lost a lot of cattle herds due to that. Not to mention the drought that also occurred after that. Wind Farms do much more damage then just warming the surface air. They also take energy out of the atmosphere, which is the very definition of climate change. And they will also increase temperature extremes between regions. The wind blows because of pressure/temperature differences. The wind is trying to stabilize the climate. If you impede the wind, you increase the temperature and pressure extremes. Trying to get a Global Warming fool to understand that though is very difficult. Beyond their comprehension capability.

24 posted on 11/01/2012 3:20:48 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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25 posted on 11/01/2012 5:06:17 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Obama should change his campaign slogan to "Yes, we am!" Sounds as stupid as his administration is.)
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Wind turbines are configured to capture energy from prevailing winds measured over a period of time, and spaced apart to minimize “wake losses.” Turbines altering the wind is nonsense, but someday I’ll ask a meteorological expert in the field.


26 posted on 11/01/2012 5:21:47 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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Wind turbines are configured to capture energy from prevailing winds measured over a period of time, and spaced apart to minimize “wake losses.” Turbines altering the wind is nonsense, but someday I’ll ask a meteorological expert in the field.


27 posted on 11/01/2012 5:22:46 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: cripplecreek
A few windmills here and there wouldn't have a huge effect but when we start talking about hundreds of thousands the potential grows proportionally.

I can see the day when the major exercise we get is dodging the blades thrown from windmills coming apart.

That's in addition to having to add tons of air conditioning to our homes to compensate for the global warming induced by the windmill farms.

28 posted on 11/02/2012 1:30:52 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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