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Who was responsible for the safety of the U.S. Ambassador to Libya?
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Posted on 09/13/2012 8:05:47 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie

Who was responsible for the security of the Ambassador? What was the plan to ensure his safety and the safety of the other U.S. citizens? Were warning signs ignored? Did the marines have ammunition? What were their rules of engagement? Did they have tear gas, grenades? How many of them were there? Where were their reinforcements? Who ordered the chopper with the squad from across the desert? What was the outcome? Was the ambassador tortured before he died? Did the President attend his security briefings the week before the murders?

I do not watch MSM, but I presume these topics have not received much coverage. These questions need to be answered.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911ii; foreignpolicy; islamist; libya; obama; statedept; terror

1 posted on 09/13/2012 8:05:55 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Hillary Clinton


2 posted on 09/13/2012 8:10:16 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Are you joking? The media doesn’t give a shit who was responsible for the Ambassadors safety, whether or not Obama was forewarned or the stupidity of Obamas destabilization of the Mideast. They simply want to know if Romney took a tax deduction for donating his old inderwear to charity. Except that was Clintoon and they are not interested in that either.


3 posted on 09/13/2012 8:10:38 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

There were NO Marines guarding Stevens in Benghazi or the embassy there either. so all of those types and related questions are useless.

Was he tortured?? Did you see the pictures of him as a crowd carried him to where ever. He was not found for almost 12 hours. This is the culkture that engages in rape of the vanquished as sport and a sign of honor.... doesn’t take a rocket scientist


4 posted on 09/13/2012 8:10:47 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: The_Media_never_lie

What group is generally responsible for ambassadors’ safety?


5 posted on 09/13/2012 8:11:03 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: The_Media_never_lie

George Bush


6 posted on 09/13/2012 8:12:01 PM PDT by oldbrowser (An empty chair attracts a stadium full of empty chairs.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

The President, who else.

As the Captain of a ship is responsible for everything that happens on his ship, the President of the ship of state is responsible for all that happens on his watch.


7 posted on 09/13/2012 8:12:14 PM PDT by doc1019 (Turn Medina into a glass parking lot and all this crap will stop.)
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To: Nifster

“engages in rape of the vanquished as sport and a sign of honor”

The only moral response to such a culture is total destruction.


8 posted on 09/13/2012 8:13:06 PM PDT by garjog (We do not want another four more years of the last four years.)
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To: tbw2

State Dept.


9 posted on 09/13/2012 8:13:33 PM PDT by virgil
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To: Nifster

Then his life was wasted and the truth of how he died are irrelevant. This is shameful. These questions beg to be answered and no one will ask them, no one cares. He apparently, is just considered expendable by the State Department.


10 posted on 09/13/2012 8:13:33 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Congressman Devin Nunes interviewed on the John Batchelor Show (radio) earlier this evening (13 Aug 2012) said that the Department of State refused to meet with The Select Committee on Intelligence about warnings and will not meet to discuss the current crises.

Congressman Devin Nunes is a member of The Select Committee on Intelligence

The House intelligence committee used to be "one of the meanest snake pits in Congress" but lately the members have cooperated at least -- at the same time the Obama Administration (apparently) has been telling the Committee to pound salt.

I cannot source this. There is nothing on the Internet yet so I have only my memory. I did not check the Congressman's web site -- he or others may have commented on the problem before tonight.

11 posted on 09/13/2012 8:14:27 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
"Who was responsible for the safety of the U.S. Ambassador to Libya?"

In the first instance and ultimately . . . Buraq H 0bama.

12 posted on 09/13/2012 8:15:30 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

I think that the host country is responsible to protect foreign embassies.

I think that each US embassy has a contingent of Marines, don’t they?

Wonder why they didn’t fight back? Or even call in fighter jet support.


13 posted on 09/13/2012 8:16:37 PM PDT by garjog (We do not want another four more years of the last four years.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

http://blogs.state.gov/index.php/site/entry/clinton_eid_ul_fitr_2012


14 posted on 09/13/2012 8:17:27 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: jwalsh07

you got that right.Maybe we should start blaming the media for everything.


15 posted on 09/13/2012 8:17:42 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: scooby321

looks like Hillary is the place where the Buck Stops—My bet—Obama will throw her under the bus and put someone else in her place.


16 posted on 09/13/2012 8:17:50 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Congressman Devin Nunes interviewed on the John Batchelor Show (radio) earlier this evening (13 Aug 2012) said that the Department of State refused to meet with The Select Committee on Intelligence about warnings and will not meet to discuss the current crises.

Sounds like they are stonewalling. There are so many questions that need to be asked, and we need answers.

17 posted on 09/13/2012 8:18:20 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: garjog

they guys that were there fought for 4 hours..with no bullets..I’d say they put up a hard fight


18 posted on 09/13/2012 8:21:02 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: garjog
Well it looks like he wasn't actually at the embassy but at the Benghazi consulate. Consulates are branch offices of the embassy, they usually don't have anywhere near the same security as embassies. Some do, but most don't.
19 posted on 09/13/2012 8:21:14 PM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: tbw2
There were NO Marines guarding Stevens in Benghazi or the embassy there either

Having armed foreigners in their country would be offensive.

Hillary had the personal assurances from the guy she helped depose the horrible dictator that everything would be OK.

He was the one leading the attack.

That is why she is so bewildered.

20 posted on 09/13/2012 8:21:43 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: garjog
I think that the host country is responsible to protect foreign embassies.

I think that each US embassy has a contingent of Marines, don’t they?

Wonder why they didn’t fight back? Or even call in fighter jet support.

Did the Marines even have live ammo? What were their rules of engagement? If they had weapons, did they use them? Did any Americans in Benghazi survive? What really happened? Did the host government try to assist the Ambassador?

21 posted on 09/13/2012 8:22:19 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Reily
Well it looks like he wasn't actually at the embassy but at the Benghazi consulate. Consulates are branch offices of the embassy, they usually don't have anywhere near the same security as embassies. Some do, but most don't.

Why was the Ambassador at a consolate on 9/11? Especially when there were signs of unrest?

22 posted on 09/13/2012 8:26:05 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Hillary Clintoon, and after her, the Obamabastard.


23 posted on 09/13/2012 8:26:29 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.yoututbe.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

My appologies to all for raising these inciteful questions. I’m just mad as hell to here of Americans meeting such a fate and those responsible for their safety escape the blame.


24 posted on 09/13/2012 8:28:02 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

My appologies to all for raising these inciteful questions. I’m just mad as hell to hear of Americans meeting such a fate and those responsible for their safety escape the blame.


25 posted on 09/13/2012 8:29:06 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: Nifster

“There were NO Marines guarding Stevens”
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When I started living in Slovakia, there were about a
half dozen guys in casual street clothes hanging around in front of the US embassy.
I was told that they were marines, stationed there after 9/11.
A few years before I left in 2009, they disappeared.
I would have expected any US embassy in the middle east to
have a sizable contingency of marine guards, even if incognito.


26 posted on 09/13/2012 8:29:16 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: The_Media_never_lie

When you find out who is responsible for state personnel, be sure and notify the Secretary of State, because I think that she is pretty angry at him.


27 posted on 09/13/2012 8:29:16 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: The_Media_never_lie

That’s a good question for the media to ask Hillary?

Anybody think it will happen?


28 posted on 09/13/2012 8:29:50 PM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: The_Media_never_lie
” I’m just mad as hell to hear of Americans meeting such a fate and those responsible for their safety escape the blame.”

Lets do something about. Make some phone calls, put up signs, give some money.

We HAVE to change administrations in November.

29 posted on 09/13/2012 8:33:48 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Reily
That’s a good question for the media to ask Hillary?

Anybody think it will happen?

What do you think would happen if Romney brings it up?

30 posted on 09/13/2012 8:34:16 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Egypt knew and should have protected the embassy.
If we were warned, we should have protected it too.

Was it “Arkancide” or “Arknegligence”


31 posted on 09/13/2012 8:36:44 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: The_Media_never_lie

The MSM will:

A) Ignore Romney doing this,
B) Accuse him of playing politics with a tragedy,
C) Remind him that politics end at the water’s edge (Of course except if you are a RAT !)

They will try A) then try to make B) or C) stick.


32 posted on 09/13/2012 8:39:51 PM PDT by Reily (l)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It happened on Ms Clinton’s watch...


33 posted on 09/13/2012 8:42:40 PM PDT by B212
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To: AlexW
I would have expected any US embassy in the middle east to have a sizable contingency of marine guards, even if incognito.

Except the embassy is in Tripoli...and the raid was on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi -- 400 miles to the east.

I don't know if there are any provisions for the embassy guard to travel with the Ambassador, but I suspect they are generally concerned with the Embassy and its grounds.

34 posted on 09/13/2012 8:49:21 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA; Ignorance on parade.)
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To: garjog

I agree that’s why I say kill them all....


35 posted on 09/13/2012 8:54:25 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Yes and mores the shame


36 posted on 09/13/2012 8:55:03 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Many don't know about Operation Northwoods.

I don't believe the government was behind 9/11.

But there is a precedent .

Our government is willing to do despicable things.

They could have been behind this attack on Stevens.

It's always interested me that Lansdale, of Operation Northwoods,..part of the whole Cuban Project..just happened to be at the Kennedy Assassination.

Operation Northwoods.

Everyone should read about it.

37 posted on 09/13/2012 8:57:32 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: The_Media_never_lie
I did a quick search and found this. It's a thread on another site. I guess I heard right about

The State Dept. refused to brief the Select Committee on Intelligence

Someone (not me) posted this comment:
"I just heard Congressman Devin Nunes say this on the radio. He said this has never happened before. And that members in both parties are outraged over this."

.. actually I thought he said that this was not uncommon.

38 posted on 09/13/2012 9:09:40 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: okie01

“Except the embassy is in Tripoli...and the raid was on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi”
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Yes, I had forgotten that it was only a consulate, but in that area, one would think there would be marines, at least traveling with the ambassador.


39 posted on 09/13/2012 9:23:23 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Not to be a smart ass, but The PIAPS owns the Fraud. The Klinton’s have the goods on this clown - the bath house visits, the birth in Kenya, the college grants listing The Fraud as a foreigh student, the Ayers connections... The problem for The Fraud is, anyone else could give the goods to the MSM and they throw it in the garbage... When the Klintons give the MSM the information they will destroy The Fraud.

So he made her SOS, littered his admin with Klinton retreads, let’s the Rapist upstage him at the conventions.

The Fraud can’t throw her under the bus, the bitch is driving the bus.


40 posted on 09/13/2012 9:28:59 PM PDT by Beatthedrum
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

That’s my feelings also. Bill was used at the DNC and he isn’t needed anymore so the Clintoons are expendable.


41 posted on 09/13/2012 9:44:46 PM PDT by Guardian Sebastian
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To: oldbrowser

bush
beat me to it


42 posted on 09/13/2012 10:27:58 PM PDT by genghis
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To: DannyTN

Hillary Diane Rodham was born in Chicago, Illinois. So that would be Illincide or Illinegligence. It’s the Chicago way, you know. Ms. Rodham wrote her senior thesis, a critique of the tactics of radical community organizer Saul Alinsky. She has stopped critiquing him, and is a follower now. It seems like every time you turn around this S.O.B. Alinsky is involved!


43 posted on 09/13/2012 11:45:44 PM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

You see the problem is BO is such a weak suck puke that he isn’t able to off the people that are a real threat to him so he engineers a different offing to blame it on the people he’s too scared to off himself. All talk - no walk.


44 posted on 09/13/2012 11:54:51 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: AlexW

I had a business appointment at the US embassy in a Latin American country whose government is strongly anti American and there are often ant American demonstrations in the streets organized by the governing leftist party. I went through three layers of security before entering the embassy building for my meeting. The first two layers were 100% administered by local security guards. Not an American to be seen and most of the locals did not speak English. The third security station was also staffed by locals, however there was a US citizen to greet my party and execute a final review of papers. I never saw a Marine.

The security guards impressed me as being the quality of the average TSA agent or rent a cop in the US.

It occurred to me at the time if the Embassy were ever attacked by a mob, it would overrun the security quickly unless the local police and military intervened quickly. Unfortunately I doubt under this administration the Marines would be allowed to appear in strength and defend the embassy with lethal weapons.

Another observation was most of the physical security barriers were designed to keep suicide car bombers from getting close enough to the buildings to cause damage. The fences appeared to be designed for decoration and to keep casual pedestrians from walking onto the grounds. An unrestrained mob would have been over them in seconds.

Based on what I have seen, as well as the news events of the past week, I’m glad I am not employed by the foreign service overseas.


45 posted on 09/14/2012 1:31:03 AM PDT by Soul of the South
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To: The_Media_never_lie
Then his life was wasted and the truth of how he died are irrelevant. This is shameful. These questions beg to be answered and no one will ask them, no one cares. He apparently, is just considered expendable by the State Department.

You are likely correct - he was sacrificed in the hopes that Obama wouldn't have to admit failure of regime-change policy.

46 posted on 09/14/2012 3:59:18 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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