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Mennonites: we are willing to die rather than betray girl to court-appointed lesbian ‘mother’
Life Site News ^ | September 4, 2012 | MATTHEW CULLINAN HOFFMAN

Posted on 09/05/2012 1:58:15 PM PDT by NYer

September 4, 2012 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Nicaraguan Mennonites say that they have been persecuted by government authorities since they chose to shelter ex-lesbian Lisa Miller and her daughter Isabella following their escape from the United States, but add that they are willing to suffer and even die to protect Isabella from a court-ordered custody transfer to her non-biological lesbian “mother.”

Lisa Miller and her daughter fled the country in late 2009 in order to avoid sharing custody of Isabella with Miller’s former homosexual partner, Janet Jenkins, with whom she had entered into a Vermont civil union. Jenkins is not biologically related to Isabella, who was conceived through artificial insemination and never adopted by Jenkins. Nonetheless, the Vermont court declared Jenkins to be Isabella’s “mother.”

Following their breakup, Miller repented of the homosexual lifestyle and professed faith in Christ, and began to fight the shared custody arrangement imposed by the court. Although expert testimony was submitted as evidence that Isabella was traumatized by the visits with Jenkins, the court refused to cancel them.

In a letter published on a Mennonite website devoted to defending Pastor Kenneth Miller (no relation to Lisa Miller) and others involved in Lisa and Isabella’s escape, the Mennonite “Nicaraguan Brotherhood” describes pressure and harassment from both U.S. and Nicaraguan authorities regarding their decision to shelter the two after their arrival in the Central American country.

The Brotherhood says that their churches in Nicaragua have been “questioned and pressed to give information” regarding the whereabouts of Isabella. “Some have been questioned when going to the US embassy. Others were interrogated in their homes.”

“Brethren and neighbors have been watched, interrogated and threatened,” and, “In some churches Sunday morning services have been watched and videoed,” they write. “A house of one of the brethren was searched without a search warrant.”

“Some excommunicated brethren said that they were offered free visas, a trip to the states, study offers and easy ways to become a police officer if they would help find her. The policeman also suggested they rejoin the church but work as spies for them,” write the Bretheren.

The Brotherhood says that they forgive their persecutors, but will stand firm in the defense of Isabella, now 10 years old, who “has become an innocent victim of an ungodly agenda.”

“Her wellbeing has not been given much or any consideration. According to the Bible we believe that God has given Lisa sole responsibility to care and protect her own daughter since she has no known father. According to the Bible it is a war between good and evil, a battle between God and Satan. As congregations we stand united in this spiritual warfare against evil.”

The Brotherhood add that they are willing to suffer imprisonment or death in the cause of protecting Isabella.

“The fact is that suddenly we find ourselves having to choose between obeying God and man made laws,” they write. “We have chosen to obey God. We are willing to give up our rights, go to jail, or even die, for the cause of helping anyone become free from a sinful life and helping that person to live in obedience to God’s Word.”

U.S. Mennonite pastor Kenneth Miller has already been convicted of helping Lisa Miller and Isabella to flee the United States, and may face up to three years in prison when he is sentenced. Jenkins has also filed a civil suit against Kenneth Miller for unspecified monetary damages, and has included organizations in the suit that have expressed support for Miller. Liberty University Law School’s dean Mat Staver has characterized that complaint as an attack on freedom of speech.

The letter of the Nicaragua Brotherhood does not specify which Nicaraguan Menonite churches are represented. Although its publication date is given as February of this year, it appears not to have been distributed outside of Mennonite circles. It was quoted in May in the Mennonite World Review, and was quoted in Jenkins’ lawsuit.

Related article:

Exclusive Interview with Lisa Miller, Ex-Lesbian Fighting for Custody of Own Child against “Civil Union”


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1 posted on 09/05/2012 1:58:19 PM PDT by NYer
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To: wagglebee; little jeremiah

Ping!


2 posted on 09/05/2012 1:58:56 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

bump


3 posted on 09/05/2012 2:00:08 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: NYer

Amen.


4 posted on 09/05/2012 2:00:29 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: NYer

Incredible!!!


5 posted on 09/05/2012 2:03:16 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: NYer

May God protect them and keep them and ALL WHO AID THEM safe from the clutches of the vermin from Vermont....................


6 posted on 09/05/2012 2:05:37 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: NYer
“The fact is that suddenly we find ourselves having to choose between obeying God and man made laws,” they write. “We have chosen to obey God. We are willing to give up our rights, go to jail, or even die, for the cause of helping anyone become free from a sinful life and helping that person to live in obedience to God’s Word.”

I am shamed and humbled; more Christians need to think this thought in their innermost being, myself included.

7 posted on 09/05/2012 2:06:45 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NYer
She should have gone to Russia where the Menonites have historic ties. You can bet your bottom dollar that Putin would protect them. Now doesn't that say alot about how we have “changed”.
8 posted on 09/05/2012 2:06:47 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: NYer

“King Solomon, please pick up the courtesy phone... King Solomon...”


9 posted on 09/05/2012 2:10:55 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: NYer

“King Solomon, please pick up the courtesy phone... King Solomon...”


10 posted on 09/05/2012 2:11:01 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: NYer

People willing to stand by their principles and what they believe to be right.

God bless’em. So many choose the easy way out.


11 posted on 09/05/2012 2:11:31 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: NYer

“The fact is that suddenly we find ourselves having to choose between obeying God and man made laws,” they write. “We have chosen to obey God. We are willing to give up our rights, go to jail, or even die, for the cause of helping anyone become free from a sinful life and helping that person to live in obedience to God’s Word.”

Once upon a time in America, the government would not have dared to push that decision in front of anyone. Sad for America; proud for the Mennonites.


12 posted on 09/05/2012 2:13:31 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: NYer
The heterophobes are full of the hatred they project onto others.

This isn't about what's best for the child.

It's about heterophobes running everbody else' lives.

13 posted on 09/05/2012 2:16:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: NYer

Hopefully they will be able to go to yet another country where only a tiny number know they are there, so the thrashing of governments will achieve nothing. No matter the coercion, information cannot be squeezed out of someone who does not know it.

Once she has gone to parts unknown, then the Mennonites can seriously muddy the water by passing around a map, each of them picking some country at random, and if asked or coerced, give the name of that country as where they have fled.

One will say Russia, another New Zealand, another Uruguay, another Libya, etc. This will so foul the search that it will become useless to continue.


14 posted on 09/05/2012 2:17:04 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: NYer
This story just makes one sick to your stomach. A flaming hate-filled lesbian Janet Jenkins, sexually abuses Lisa Miller's daughter on court ordered visits, Lisa then refuses to abide by the court ordered visits because of the sexual abuse & trauma. Then arrogant SOB judge in an angry snit now decrees that Lisa has to give up here own biological daughter to hate-filled former partner Janet Jenkins. And now a pastor will go to prison for up to 3 years. This is disgusting, sick & perverse. I am a born again Christian, but I must admit that I simply cannot fathom how God can allow this atrocity to continue. Lisa Miller, her daughter Isabella, the Mennonite pastor, & Brethren have lost every single court battle.

What is God doing here? Evil is being rewarded beyond comprehension, and these innocent Christian people especially a 10 yr old girl, are persecuted & losing every court battle. I don't understand how God can allow these abominations to continue. Even so, come Lord Jesus and destroy these perverse abominable reprobates -- Janet Jenkins, her lawyers, the RAT bastard Vermont judge, and those in the Justice dept pursuing this with a vengence. Unbelieveable. If God was willing to save Sodom & Gomorrah for only 10 righteous souls, he certainly ought to save Lisa Miller & her daughter & those who have given their lives & freedoms to protect Lisa & her daughter.

Please God... do something to punish those who are perpetuating this evil.

15 posted on 09/05/2012 2:24:59 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: NYer

Whatever happened to that oft lefty used phrase of sixties (paraphrase) “If you love someone, then let them go”. Janet Jenkins is just another self centered pervert trying to exercise some power over others IMO.

Janet Jenkins must not be allowed to win this. She nor the Leftist Judge. No victory for evil.


16 posted on 09/05/2012 2:26:47 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: All

Every preacher in this country should be talking about this every Sunday morning. It’s sad that they are not.

It’s also sad that there are judges like this who have the power to order someone who has done nothing wrong to give up her child. While DHS constantly sends abused kids back home because they believe the “family should stay together”.


17 posted on 09/05/2012 2:28:10 PM PDT by Terry Mross (2016 THE MOVIE....scarier than any zombie movie.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Truly standing in the gap. God bless them.


18 posted on 09/05/2012 2:30:55 PM PDT by jagusafr
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To: OneWingedShark

Well stated.


19 posted on 09/05/2012 2:32:33 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: rcrngroup

This is disgusting, sick & perverse. I am a born again Christian, but I must admit that I simply cannot fathom how God can allow this atrocity to continue. Lisa Miller, her daughter Isabella, the Mennonite pastor, & Brethren have lost every single court battle.

What is God doing here? Evil is being rewarded beyond comprehension, and these innocent Christian people especially a 10 yr old girl, are persecuted & losing every court battle. I don't understand how God can allow these abominations to continue. Even so, come Lord Jesus and destroy these perverse abominable reprobates -- Janet Jenkins, her lawyers, the RAT bastard Vermont judge, and those in the Justice dept pursuing this with a vengence. Unbelieveable. If God was willing to save Sodom & Gomorrah for only 10 righteous souls, he certainly ought to save Lisa Miller & her daughter & those who have given their lives & freedoms to protect Lisa & her daughter.

Please God... do something to punish those who are perpetuating this evil.


Romans 1:18-32


Unbelief and Its Consequences

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth [l]in unrighteousness, 19 because that which is known about God is evident [m]within them; for God made it evident to them. 20 For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse. 21 For even though they knew God, they did not [n]honor Him as God or give thanks, but they became futile in their speculations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged
the glory of the incorruptible God for an image in the form of
corruptible man and of birds and four-footed animals and [o]crawling creatures.

24 Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. 25 For they exchanged the truth of God for [p]a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed [q]forever. Amen.

26 For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is [r]unnatural, 27 and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing [s]indecent acts and receiving in [t]their own persons the due penalty of their error.

28 And just as they did not see fit [u]to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper, 29 being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, evil; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malice; they are gossips, 30 slanderers, [v]haters of God, insolent, arrogant, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding, untrustworthy, unloving, unmerciful; 32 and although they know the ordinance of God, that those who practice such things are worthy of death, they not only do the same, but also give hearty approval to those who practice them.



20 posted on 09/05/2012 2:39:03 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: fella

I agree


21 posted on 09/05/2012 2:39:45 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age Takes a Toll: Please Have Exact Change)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

That sounds all well and good, but remember, this woman’s passport is most likely flagged by the NCIC, and from that, likely through INTERPOL as well.

The minute she crosses a border, that flag pops up and she’s detained by the local authorities, and then deported, back to the US.

Not saying it’s impossible for her, but difficult.


22 posted on 09/05/2012 2:39:50 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: rcrngroup
LifeSiteNews: Can you tell our readers also – what is your attitude about this? Do you fear for the future or are you optimistic? What do you think will happen?

Miller: I believe that God is in control and I believe that anything that is going to happen – He is going to allow it. I don’t have any fear. I feel at peace that God is with me. He has protected me and Isabella for the last five years and I believe that He is going to continue to do that.

The fact that we are aware of these things should make us stronger in our resolve to fight these people. They are pure evil. When God has had his belly-full of them all, He will act and we will help Him.

23 posted on 09/05/2012 2:45:38 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: rcrngroup

Despite everything the evil ones throw at them, Isabella is still free.

Good men have to stand in the gap and pay the price, but Isabella remains free.


24 posted on 09/05/2012 2:51:18 PM PDT by marron
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To: NYer

Does anyone remember the name of the Sri Lankan girl who converted from Islam and went underground to avoid being sent back?

It was a long legal struggle, some of the people who helped her were prosecuted if I recall. In the end she won, but it was a long haul.


25 posted on 09/05/2012 2:54:12 PM PDT by marron
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To: NYer

I remember. Rifqa Bary.


26 posted on 09/05/2012 3:04:02 PM PDT by marron
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To: Bratch

One of my favorite Bible passages... but I am still very angry that God will allow these gutter scum evil RAT bastards to persecute & hound Lisa Miller, her daughter, the Mennonite pastor now facing 3 yrs in prison, and even those groups who simply verbally voice support for Lisa Miller. God help our nation... but we do have millions of Christians praying for our nation and even this particular situation and we lose every single battle.... Unbelieveable. I cannot wait for Janet Jenkins, her lawyers, the Vermont judge, those in the Justice Dept, to roast in hell & the Lake of Fire for eternity. I understand that God’s ways are not our ways, but so far, we are 0 for 500 or so.


27 posted on 09/05/2012 3:52:42 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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To: NYer

This is a very sad case, and unfortunately Lisa Miller undermined everything she fought for when she accepted child support from Janet Jenkins.

If you accept the idea that your partner has a parental responsibility, you accept that your partner has potential parental rights. It would have been easy as pie to argue that because Janet had never legally adopted the baby even after Lisa asked her to, she had voided her parental rights and responsibilities, but accepting the child support money completely undid that argument and is enough to convince me that Lisa Miller is being at least a little bit selfish and unreliable. Actions have consequences and unfortunately they’re all hitting a little girl harder than the women who knowingly dragged her into this mess.


28 posted on 09/05/2012 4:02:23 PM PDT by lymelady (Pro-life: Because I passed biology and history.)
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To: marron
Isaiah 5:20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

21 Woe unto [them that are] wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

22 Woe unto [them that are] mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink: 23 Which justify the wicked for reward, and take away the righteousness of the righteous from him! 24 Therefore as the fire devoureth the stubble, and the flame consumeth the chaff, [so] their root shall be as rottenness, and their blossom shall go up as dust: because they have cast away the law of the LORD of hosts, and despised the word of the Holy One of Israel.

The fire to consume & destroy these evil reprobates is long overdue. It is inconceiveable that God is allowing these satanic-inspired, RAT bastard reprobates to prosper & succeed even in their persecution of Lisa Miller & those helping her & her daughter.

I pray that God needs to reach down and lend a helping hand.

29 posted on 09/05/2012 4:02:34 PM PDT by rcrngroup
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I've often wondered what became of this mother and daughter. I hope they can remain in safety until the daughter reaches the age of majority and is safe from the nest of vipers of the lesbian former partner and the "justice" system. Also noteworthy are the U.S. Mennonite pastor Kenneth Miller and the Mennonites in Nicaragua for standing up and taking risks for the sake of the mother and daughter.

30 posted on 09/05/2012 4:07:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: NYer

I’m a former Mennonite.

These are the true Mennonites who have, and still are, willing to die for their beliefs. Hundreds of thousands have gone before them.

I no longer consider myself a Mennonite for primarily two reasons; most of the church has gone ‘rainbow’ and the non-resistance is now contrary to my belief.

WHen these Mennonites say they will die first, they have hundreds of years of history to fall back on. They WILL die first.

She’s as safe as she can be made safe.


31 posted on 09/05/2012 4:33:05 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

I don’t imagine that Nicaraguan border controls are terribly effective. Neither is that of Honduras, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala or Panama. Most of these just do passport stamps, not computers, so Interpol would never find out.

Of course, though, she would only want to go to a country with a Mennonite community.

And if she got over the border successfully, she would be off the radar. At that point, the disinformation could begin in earnest.

What would probably happen would be that the USG would lean even harder on the Nicaraguan government, who would get really pushy to the Mennonites, but get nowhere and nothing, other than told she had gone in a dozen different directions.

The USG would probably take it at face value, and assume at least the first few times that those sneaky Mennonites had used an underground railroad to get her to New Zealand or wherever. So they would contact the government of NZ about it. Then the government of Taiwan, then Nepal, etc.

The neat part is that soon false positives would come in, like ‘Elvis seen in a Taco Bell in Burbank’ type stuff, which would gum up the works even more.


32 posted on 09/05/2012 4:54:42 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: NYer

Equador, I heard, is a very nice country.


33 posted on 09/05/2012 5:37:09 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: little jeremiah

1st amendment, so are we now supposed to ignore peoples religion except muslims

the courts up and down in this country especially at the federal level need a clean wipe out just as the DOJ and holder who should be charged for not doing his job.


34 posted on 09/05/2012 6:04:16 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: rcrngroup

freedom of religion yet again ignored


35 posted on 09/05/2012 6:05:36 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: NYer

I grew up with Mennonites. They mean this if they have said it. No joke. Plain people, just a smidgeon this side of Amish.


36 posted on 09/05/2012 6:06:04 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: so_real

When liberals went on witch hunts against gun owners for self defence, Texans put the kabosh on the persecution via jury nullification. They refused to find people acting in self defense when attacked by criminals, guilty of a crime; no matter how cleverly contrived in technocality by prosecutors. They did not plan or plot such an outcome; they were just true to the American sense of justice without fanfare. Prosecutors took the hint gave up wasting their time.

Christians have the power to do this with any fascist move against religious freedom or human life made by the government. The founders set up the balancing of power in law with a “jury of peers” for a reason. All the power of law ultimately lies with the jury - the people- and most of us are Christians, not gay sex activists and communists.

It is expected and designed for Americans be uppity in protection of one another’s constitutional freedom and innocent life when the government “progresses” to oppress that freedom.

When the government progresses to be extreme - in extreme conflict with common sense and the nature of good and normal human existence, or in conflict with our God given rights, jury nullification is our power. We don’t have to leave it up to corrupt judges and prosecutors. If they want to put an American in jail or win a civil law suit, they come through us.

For example, if watermelons made it a crime for humans to expel carbon pollution from their lungs (they’d love to knock out “overpopulation”), it would be fine for the people to annul that law in the jury box. Christians best get ready because we are going to face some outrageous actions of government ordered (and disobeyed) killings under Obamacare’s rationing that we are going to get uppity about.

Homofascism will ask us to harm Christians and protect and the aggressive sexual behaviors perverts. In this case child custody was given to a lesbian of no relation to the child. It was homofascist judicial activism. Christians should anul such legal actions through juries. In this case we can hold this minister not guilty of a crime. Just...because...we...want...to and as a jury member we...can.

In these abnormal times, what is good is named evil and what is evil is named good. Liberals can tell Christians to shut up all they want in public debate and shove through laws against our will, but they can’t make us convict other Christians for using common sense — being normal and moral. We can do what is right on a jury without a lot of risk as long as we are willing to discuss issues of morality and justice amongst ourselves - beyond the collective amoral ignorance of political correctness. That is what Texans did in protection of the second amendment while legal activists were hot to harm gun owners.


37 posted on 09/05/2012 6:50:50 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: NYer

Un-freaking-believable. Much praise to the Mennonites both here and abroad for their bravery in combating this evil. Our republic is morally bankrupt.


38 posted on 09/05/2012 7:54:36 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see marxism elected at home.)
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To: NYer

Added to my prayer list.


39 posted on 09/05/2012 7:58:24 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: rcrngroup
The fire to consume & destroy these evil reprobates is long overdue. It is inconceiveable that God is allowing these satanic-inspired, RAT bastard reprobates to prosper & succeed even in their persecution of Lisa Miller & those helping her & her daughter.

I pray that God needs to reach down and lend a helping hand.

The LORD will punish the evil, and I think it will be much sooner, than later. What a strange world we live in when a mother protecting and loving her daughter becomes an international criminal for doing so. We will pray for them, and trust The LORD for them.

Proverbs 16:4 The LORD hath made all [things] for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

40 posted on 09/05/2012 8:12:28 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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To: NYer

Those Mennonites deserve respect for their stand.


41 posted on 09/05/2012 8:24:25 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Balding_Eagle; wagglebee; NYer; lymelady
Balding Eagle is right. Real Mennonites who care about their faith understand they have centuries of persecution dating back to the Anabaptist movement, and have been taught from an early age that they need to be willing to resist up to and including death.

I am not a fan of the Mennonites. I believe their doctrines are seriously wrong on church-state relations and on pacifism.

However, this is a perfect example of where conservative Christians need to put very important differences aside to pray for these persecuted brothers who are seriously wrong on important issues. Anyone who thinks that legalizing homosexual marriage won't have consequences needs to look at cases like this. Also, as Lymelady has pointed out, Janet Miller has seriously harmed her case by accepting child support from her former lesbian partner — actions have consequences and sometimes judges have to enforce bad laws. Not saying the judge here did the right thing, but I am saying that if the push for gay marriage continues, someday conservative Christians in the judicial profession are going to have to ask if they can in good conscience send a child back into a lesbian or gay home when the law really is clear (as is not necessarily true in this case).

We need to fight tooth-and-nail against gay marriage or things like this will become more and more common.

For now, as long as the law remains unsettled, we still have things we can do to fight. There are at least two members of Congress with Mennonite ties. Both are conservative Republicans who do not agree with the historic position of their church on pacifism and seem to try to avoid being identified as Mennonites. I wonder if either of them are involved in this privately or officially?

42 posted on 09/05/2012 8:48:15 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Balding_Eagle; wagglebee; NYer; lymelady

Don’t know why I said Janet Miller. I know the victimized mom is Lisa Miller. Bad typo...


43 posted on 09/05/2012 8:58:13 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: little jeremiah

The dedication and honor of these folks is humbling.

Where are our crusaders? Why is the American populace at large so unaware of these draconian injustices? If every American citizen who knew about this case (and many others like it) spread the word to their family members and friends then that would be a start. But people don’t know what inequities the judicial system is enforcing on us in the name of “equality”, like Human Rights Tribunals and this horror.

Only places like Life Site News or World Net Daily report on these issues, so they’re relegated to fringe-kookiness. HuffPo or DailyKos have no problem reporting these cases, but with their special “perspective.” Where’s Drudge on this? Fox News? Is there any mainstream source willing to report the truth? I guess FR is one of the brave few.

God bless these people and keep them safe.


44 posted on 09/06/2012 12:27:49 PM PDT by two134711 (I am Conservative, no longer a Republican.)
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“Conservatives” are terrified spitless of homo nazis. Do any of tha “conservative” talk people mention the homo nazi agenda? NO! How about elected representatives? Shame on them!

A few R elected people speak out and they are instantly labeled “haters/bigots/homophobes/evil” etc. Well it takes courage to stand up and we as a society sorely need courage.

Thus my tagline.


45 posted on 09/06/2012 1:45:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: manc

Our gov needs a series of high colonics.


46 posted on 09/06/2012 1:47:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

And I've often wondered why one half of a lesbian pair always appears to have a need to make themselves appear to be masculine? Is it because they know that if they allowed their feminine attributes to be seen, the object of their 'affections' would not be attracted to them?

47 posted on 09/06/2012 6:11:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: NYer

May God bless these Christians.


48 posted on 09/06/2012 7:33:36 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Fred Nerks

Thanks for the photo. It’s a mental/spiritual illness. And hte face is the mirror of the mind. Faces and appearances change with the mind or the consciousness. I’ve seen incredible changes in people due to their consciousness.

(BTW - just sort of surfacing after extreme busy-ness and not feeling well, have info you posted I need to attend to, maybe tomorrow!)


49 posted on 09/06/2012 8:27:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: NYer

I am still pissed off at VA Gov. McDonnell for not telling the Vermont court to go to hell on behalf of VA resident Miller, that VA does not recognize VT civil unions, and that Isabella would NOT be handed over to a woman who is NOT her mother.


50 posted on 09/06/2012 10:34:19 PM PDT by montag813
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