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Catholics Shift Away from Obama, Democratic Party
CT ^ | August 23, 2012 | Shane Vander Hart

Posted on 08/24/2012 3:46:15 PM PDT by NYer

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Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception (Washington, DC)
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Catholics are a major voting block, and one that can’t be pigeonholed by Republicans or Democrats. A recent NPR segment compared Vice President Joe Biden with the presumptive Vice Presidential nominee, Congressman Paul Ryan. Both are Catholics, but their worldview is not the same.

Stephen Schneck, a political scientist at Catholic University, said that Biden comes from a more traditional generation of Catholics.

“This is the Catholicism of our old ethnic neighborhoods, and our union halls, and St. Christopher medals on the dashboard sort of thing,” Stephen says.

It is a working-class Catholicism, he says, where the Mass and the rosary are part of the warp and woof of daily life in places such as Scranton, Pa., Biden’s boyhood town. As Biden said when he visited Scranton in 2008, “This is where my family values and my faith melded.”

Those values — of the cop, the fireman, the union leader — placed Catholics solidly in the Democratic camp for decades. Schneck, who co-chairs Catholics for Obama, says these Catholics tend to have a positive attitude toward government.

“Think about John Kennedy’s famous ‘ask not’ lines here,” Schneck says. “For that generation of Catholics, it’s a recognition that government and civil society have a profoundly positive role to play.”

Robert George, a conservative Catholic and professor of Jurisprudence at Princeton University, says that generation is being supplanted by a younger generation that tends to be more conservative.

“We have a younger generation of Catholics who are more conservative, especially on moral and cultural issues,” he says.

George says these younger Catholics — who are sometimes called “intentional Catholics” — tend to be more committed to conservative parts of Catholic doctrine. Many, like Ryan, 42, came of age during the papacy of John Paul II. They see themselves in Ryan, who opposes same-sex marriage and abortion except when the mother’s life is in danger. In fact, Ryan sponsored a “personhood bill” that would define a fertilized egg as a human being.

Couple that NPR segment with a new poll commissioned by the American Life League which shows President Obama is losing support from Catholics. From an email I received this afternoon:

Between August 15-19 of this year, American Life League commissioned a nationwide telephone survey of 900 self-identified Catholic registered voters. The focus of the survey was Catholic perspectives on the Church and nation. Below are some of the results of the survey.

Only 27 percent of the Catholics surveyed support President Obama. Of those surveyed, 74 percent of Catholic men over the age of 50 do not support Obama, while Obama support among Catholic men under 50 years is only 25 percent. With Catholic women over the age of 50, the president’s support is only 23 percent, with just 31 percent among Catholic women under 50 years.

American Life League speculates that such a dramatic shift may be caused by Obama’s HHS mandates and ensuing legal battle over religious freedom, as 73 percent of Catholics polled believe that the mandates violate their religious freedom.

“This nationwide survey revealed surprising results that should cause our leaders to pause and consider the consequences of their decisions and the impact it has on their constituents. Can Obama’s support among Catholics be dwindling this fast?” said Paul E. Rondeau, ALL executive director. “One thing is certain: Catholics, like most Americans, feel strongly about their religious rights and are committed to defending their faith. Both Church and national leaders should heed this notice.”

The American Life League poll was conducted by ccAdvertising, Centreville, Virginia, which gives the margin of error as +/- 3 percent.

Winning or losing the Catholic vote can make or break a Presidential candidate.


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1 posted on 08/24/2012 3:46:18 PM PDT by NYer
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To: NYer

Until they saw Todd Akin


2 posted on 08/24/2012 3:47:05 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; SumProVita; ...
Catholic Ping
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3 posted on 08/24/2012 3:47:16 PM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

voters can be pretty stupid as we all know,
And for whatever stupid reason Catholics, Jews, yut’s, latins, fags, unionists and of course blacks all are still going to vote majority for this marxist punk.


4 posted on 08/24/2012 3:49:40 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: Joe Boucher

As a catholic sir i take offense. every catholic in my large family are vehemently opposed to obama.


5 posted on 08/24/2012 3:56:17 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: hecht

“Think about John Kennedy’s famous ‘ask not’ lines here,” Schneck says. “For that generation of Catholics, it’s a recognition that government and civil society have a profoundly positive role to play.”

Robert George, a conservative Catholic and professor of Jurisprudence at Princeton University, says that generation is being supplanted by a younger generation that tends to be more conservative”

The John Kennedy generation of Catholics were pro-life.
It was they fatass nothing Teddy Kennedy that destroyed a generation of Catholics when he switched from being pro-life to pro-abortion - in a shameful attempt to get the female bra burders vote in the late 60s and 70s. There are videos on the internet showing Teddy Kennedy running as a pro-life candidate, then he sold his soul to the devil for a vote. The Kennedy generation that came after him said if uncle Teddy can be for baby murder it must be OK. The most influential American Catholic family of 20th Century are the reason that so many Catholics started voting for the party of death. But committed, Mass-going Catholics usually vote Republican. And that’s a good sign.


6 posted on 08/24/2012 4:00:00 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NYer

Why would a Christian vote for Muslim Barack Hussein Obama anyway? Or why would a Hindu, Jew or Buddhist? Muslims work to annihilate all others.


7 posted on 08/24/2012 4:01:38 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: NKP_Vet

When I was young it was Catholics that were the face of the right to life movement.
In the 80s it shifted to the evangelicals.
Now after the exposure of the belief in the magic spemacide/uterus I wish Catholics would retake the mantle.


8 posted on 08/24/2012 4:02:54 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: NYer

Catholics shifting away from evil?

They shouldn’t have gone in that direction in the first place.

52% of Catholic voters were dumbasses in 2008. I know this to be a fact — I met too many of them in my parish. Most of them are still a bunch of feel-good liberals.


9 posted on 08/24/2012 4:03:15 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: NYer

Catholics shifting away from evil?

They shouldn’t have gone in that direction in the first place.

52% of Catholic voters were dumbasses in 2008. I know this to be a fact — I met too many of them in my parish. Most of them are still a bunch of feel-good liberals.


10 posted on 08/24/2012 4:03:38 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: NYer

I’m guessing the Catholics got the memo from the Cardinal.


11 posted on 08/24/2012 4:04:17 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: 353FMG

I’ve still got them posting pro-Obama crap on FB at me.

Talk about stuck on stupid


12 posted on 08/24/2012 4:05:23 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: NYer
Dolan is closing the dim convention the last night... he claims it is not an endorsement... but his actions of the past would call into question the veracity of that claim. I am very confused by some in the Catholic Church. I am also in awe of some in the Church.

LLS

13 posted on 08/24/2012 4:14:05 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Sarah speaking at the romney convention would be like Led Zeppelin opening for The Monkees)
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To: NKP_Vet

Already in the early ‘60s, the Kennedys were coming on board with the pro-choice types. Their teacher was Father Drinan. That there were lots of Father Drinans is the reason who so many Catholics abandoned the traditional teachings of the Church and took up liberalism.


14 posted on 08/24/2012 4:15:56 PM PDT by RobbyS (Christus rex.)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Dolan is also closing the first night of the GOP convention with an invocation. He’s not endorsing either side.


15 posted on 08/24/2012 4:18:33 PM PDT by Prince of Space (Be Breitbart, baby!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Your comment aside, your tagline is brilliant!


16 posted on 08/24/2012 4:19:20 PM PDT by stormhill
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To: Joe Boucher

No one at my parish will vote for him, of course, I go to Latin Mass.


17 posted on 08/24/2012 4:23:25 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: RobbyS
My mother-in-law is the archetype for the stupid Catholics who support Obama and the Democrats. She's supposed to be a "good" Catholic, and very ProLife, but, unbelievably, thinks Obama is our greatest President ever, and will not countenance any criticism of him or any evidence of how mprodeath he is.

She gets all her information from the major networks and the local newspaper.

18 posted on 08/24/2012 4:24:51 PM PDT by Robwin
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To: NYer; Chode

It’s about time!!!


19 posted on 08/24/2012 4:31:43 PM PDT by Morgana (-----------> Eat at Chick-Fil-A <-----------)
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To: Joe Boucher

Maybe the unionist over at GM but here in West Virginia the coal mining unionist are not for Obozo!!!


20 posted on 08/24/2012 4:33:11 PM PDT by Morgana (-----------> Eat at Chick-Fil-A <-----------)
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