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Obama To Sign Anti-Second Amendment U.N. Gun Grab
IBD Editorials ^ | July 9, 2012

Posted on 07/09/2012 5:59:29 PM PDT by raptor22

Second Amendment: The United Nations is putting the finishing touches on an Arms Trade Treaty that transcends borders and may even trample our Constitutional right to bear arms. Every indication is that the president will sign it.

Like the New Start and Law of the Sea treaties before it, as well as the Kyoto Protocol and Agenda 21, the Arms Trade Treaty being finalized at the U.N. this month is one of those feel-good, can't-we-all-get-along pieces of parchment whose net effect is to accomplish little except to eat away at American sovereignty and freedom.

Just as the world's worst human rights violators sat on and often chaired the U.N. Human Rights Council, Iran, arms supplier extraordinaire to America's enemies, was elected on Saturday to a top position on the United Nations Conference on the Arms Trade Treaty being held in New York. It began July 2 and extends through July 27.

This came right after the same U.N. found Iran guilty of illegally transferring guns and bombs to the murderous Syrian regime of Bashar Assad, currently slaughtering thousands of its own citizens as an impotent U.N. joins the U.S. administration in standing around and watching.

The mindset of the one-worlders preaches that guns cause crime and war and if we only get rid of those otherwise inanimate objects the evil that lurks in the hearts and minds of men will suddenly dissipate. Then we can buy the world a soft drink and sing "Kumbaya."

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To: raptor22
The United Nations is putting the finishing touches on an Arms Trade Treaty that transcends borders and may even trample our Constitutional right to bear arms.

It can try, but that right is kinda hard to trample if the people aren't willing to let it be.The armed people that is.

From our cold, dead hands...

I'd prefer it were their hands, and the rest of them, that are cold and dead when the smoke clears. That's what the second amendment was designed to help ensure.

41 posted on 07/09/2012 7:10:31 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: raptor22
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42 posted on 07/09/2012 7:11:21 PM PDT by GnL
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To: RC one
he can’t sign it unless the senate ratifies it with a 2/3rd majority vote. Good luck with that.

Not quite. With treaties the President acts first, then the Senate. He could sign it as soon as the final form is available. Probably will. Presidents have been known to enforce treaties while they are still un-ratified, as long as the Senate hasn't actually voted them down.

43 posted on 07/09/2012 7:15:35 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: mardi59
I believe it also says alittle something about ALL enemies foreign and domestic

Actually the President's oath doesn't say that.

But mine did.

The Constitutionally mandated Presidential oath:

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

My oath:

I, El Gato, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.

44 posted on 07/09/2012 7:23:57 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Tzimisce

The American Revolution began when the British King attempted to disarm the Colonists.

We’re not the men our forefathers were.


45 posted on 07/09/2012 7:25:24 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: RC one

“he can’t sign it unless the senate ratifies it with a 2/3rd majority vote. Good luck with that.”

Legally, 51 Senators present form a quorum and only 2/3 of those need to approve. That’s 34 Senators. He’s got that many. All he has to do is figure out how to ensure not enough that oppose it are present.


46 posted on 07/09/2012 7:30:41 PM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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47 posted on 07/09/2012 7:35:16 PM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: raptor22
People seem to think that the gun grab will be people coming to take away the guns... and that is not how liberals work. Liberals know that would never work... liberals know strategy, they know how to boil a frog.

Obongo's 2nd term will have gun control pushes. People who have unhealthy lifestyles will pay heavier taxes. Guns and ammo will be a health care issue and taxed like cigarettes. The UN arms treaty will be broadened to have internal domestic regulations by the administration. Registration, regulation, taxation, judicial rulings, they will do it one stoke of the pen at a time, one bang of the gavel at a time.

Americans will tolerate any act of tyranny as long as they can be eased into it.

48 posted on 07/09/2012 7:42:06 PM PDT by GregoTX (Federalist)
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To: raptor22

Wave of the future? I fear our public schools are in the process of raising up a generation who respect the UN more than they do the US Constitution, particularly the Second Amendment.


49 posted on 07/09/2012 7:42:47 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Just look around here on FR. There is quite the schism on the Right and a great many who say steadfastly that they will never vote for Romney.

That would be me. I'm not voting for Romney; no way, no how.

Thereby handing Obama his second term.

No, it is not me handing it to Obama; it is the GOP not pushing a candidate worthy of my vote: I will not again vote for a slimeball like McCain. (And Romney is a slimeball.)

Besides, for all intents and purposes Romney is Obama.

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They believe a viable 3rd party candidate will appear like magic, solidify the Right and beat Obama. As much as I'd like that to happen, I'm a realist.

Who said anything about a 3rd party candidate appearing at all? I certainly don't think that. I am just unwilling to "hold my nose and vote" again; I will instead vote with my conscience and if that "makes my vote useless" then so be it: though that is an indictment on the American system itself, if voting for one's conscience is useless.

50 posted on 07/09/2012 8:00:19 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Who did you support for Pres???
I was backing Bachman or Newt until they dropped out—then Santorum.

By the way, they now all endorse Romney. I guess they are just rinos too.

It seems to me that you would rather see the ship go down than to stay afloat until we can get some conservatives in the Congress to plug the leaks—even if Romney is in the WH.


51 posted on 07/09/2012 8:11:04 PM PDT by Justice4awe
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To: Windflier
I hope they know that it would be a suicide mission. It really would be.

May God have mercy on them, because we sure won't.

52 posted on 07/09/2012 8:16:27 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: raptor22

Another IMPEACHABLE offense.


53 posted on 07/09/2012 8:18:04 PM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: raptor22
Then we can buy the world a soft drink...

But only a small one in New York City.

54 posted on 07/09/2012 8:21:46 PM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil)
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To: Irenic

That’s not an apartment. That’s a large jail cell!


55 posted on 07/09/2012 8:23:20 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Inyo-Mono

No, thank you for sending the information along. We need to fight this tooth and nail and we need every ally we can muster. This is for all the chips.

So THANK YOU for you help.


56 posted on 07/09/2012 8:24:32 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: freedomfiter2
The American Revolution began when the British King attempted to disarm the Colonists. We’re not the men our forefathers were.

Speak for yourself; only 3% of the colonists actually took up arms. 1/3 remained loyal to the crown; 1/3 supported Independence, but didn't do much; and 1/3 remained indifferent.

America is a warring nation by default; if don't have enemies to fight, we'll fight ourselves. The looter class covets their welfare; the bitter clingers covet their guns. Both groups will fight to the death to keep that which they covet.

57 posted on 07/09/2012 8:28:55 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (1 if by land, 2 if by sea, 3 if by SCOTUS)
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To: raptor22

Time to shop for a gun. My wife agrees. Have never owned one.


58 posted on 07/09/2012 8:37:49 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

I lost all of mine in a tragic canoe accident.


59 posted on 07/09/2012 8:43:23 PM PDT by MtnClimber (To the left wrong is right, down is up and backward is "Forward")
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To: RC one
he can’t sign it unless the senate ratifies it with a 2/3rd majority vote. You might want to read this reply of mine.
This is the relevant section... The PRESIDING OFFICER. A division has been requested.
Senators in favor of the ratification of this treaty, please raise their hand. (After a pause.) Those opposed will raise their hands.
With two-thirds of the Senators present having voted in the affirmative, the resolution of ratification is agreed to.
Mr. THOMAS. I thank the Presiding Officer, the Senator from West Virginia, and the clerk.
By the way, just for information, these treaties were all approved by the Foreign Relations Committee on October 4 and 5.

A show of hands without a quorum call and with no recorded vote. Those present voted, not the whole Senate.

60 posted on 07/09/2012 8:44:03 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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