Skip to comments.Beck on the ObamaCare ruling: I sure am tired of prominent Republicans selling out conservatives
Posted on 06/28/2012 10:07:19 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
A sentiment widely shared today, no doubt. Over at Aces place, DrewM issues a warning:
This is your last chance. If you blow this, Im out and you need to be destroyed.
What is it? Repeal ObamaCare on Day 1. Dont worry about replace, dont worry about anything else
[A]s soon as Mitt takes the oath of office, before his speech no one will care or remember, walk the bill up to him at the podium to sign.
If this does not happen, the GOP must be destroyed and a new party built to replace it. Weve tried the carrot approach (votes, money, volunteers) to change your behavior. Now its time to show you the stick.
David Frum counters: If you think the GOPs going to repeal ObamaCare now, youre kidding yourselves.
"[E]ven if Republicans do win the White House and Senate in 2012, how much appetite will they then have for that 1-page repeal bill? Suddenly it will be their town halls filled with outraged senior citizens whose benefits are threatened; their incumbencies that will be threatened. Already we are hearing that some Republicans wish to retain the more popular elements of the Affordable Care Act (ACA). Which means the proposed 1-page bill will begin to grow
Republicans will find the task of writing their replace law even more agonizing than the Democrats found original passage. The party has no internal consensus on what a replacement would look like. Worse, any replacement of the laws popular elements will require financing. But where is that money to come from? New taxes are unacceptable. The proceeds of closing loopholes are already spoken forthats how President Romney has promised to finance his promise to cut the top rate of tax 28%. And hes also promised to increase defense spending "
Thats all fine, but Drews captured the mood of the base well in his post, I think. If the GOP ends up with the numbers to repeal O-Care, itd be a catastrophic, possibly politically fatal betrayal at this point for them not to follow through. The fact that it was Roberts who swung to the left in todays decision rather than the mercurial Kennedy only compounds conservatives trauma: At this point, a la Beck, it really does feel like theres no one in a position of power who can be trusted. The last Republican president ran up big deficits and expanded health-care entitlements; the Republican chief justice he appointed just voted to uphold ObamaCare; and the current Republican nominee pioneered the concept of health-care mandates in Massachusetts. If a Republican-controlled Congress rubber-stamps Obamas health-care leviathan by refusing to act on it, I dont know what happens to turnout in 2014 and 2016. Good news for the No Labels crowd, I guess thatll be the closest Americas come yet to seeing a true third party develop. Democrats on the left, conservatives on the right, and the no-labels rump of the GOP smack dab in the center. They might as well take their chances with angry seniors at those townhalls; you might win them back eventually, but you wont win back righties whove suffered one too many sellouts.
Heck, Michelle Obama says black kids become stupid watching TV. So, guess what, we will have our German tax on owning a TV.
You know, I believe TV is evil, as a Christian, but, hey, I was not going to be the theocratic type forcing people to not watch it.... but it is OK to be Michelle Zero and tell people they cannot watch TV or drink slurpies.
Man, where are those evil right wing christian extremists when you have Michelle Zero coming up with fascist crap like this.
Third Party talk is for those who do not want to win, at anything.
Tell that to the republicans about 160 years ago.
Have third parties won anything in the last 100 years?
You got it .
It isn’t the party that counts any longer.
They are all in it for the perks and the money.
Vote NO on incumbency.
Anyone in the Congress now needs to be removed.
I had quit listening to Beck months ago, during his constant Newt bashing. I wanted to hear the SCOTUS decision at work, so I switched on Beck and he’s still bashing Newt. What an ass Beck is. He did all he could to get us comrade Romney though.
We need to understand that we can’t let this tax stand. First, I have severe doubts that their will even be elections. The Progressive take-over is essentially complete and they are not just going to walk-away from the table and let it be un-done. The nothing-ever-happens-here crowd needs to wake up because it is happening. All Obama needs is some civil disobedience here and for the Middle East to blow up, which looks like will happen this summer or fall. Then he pulls out the teleprompter and reads his the world is in a precarious place and it would be careless for us as Americans to go through this transition to a new administration at this time crap and woila its game over. Remember with the NDAA and other EO’s he can pretty much do whatever he wants.
Second, I do not believe for a second that Romney will live up to his promise to repeal it on day one. He’s going to use this tax as a platform to grab the conservative vote, who will hold their noses just long enough to pull the lever for Romeny. He needs the Senate anyway to pull it off even if he really wanted too, which Im not sure he does. But if they do then you would get minorities and the poor rising up in the streets because someone just took away their free health care.
Yes. To me they are all snake oil hustlers until proven otherwise, and so far none are proven otherwise. Even in political offices, you'll occasionally find a diamond in the dung heap.
Excellent post. This BS game is over. Romney was brought forward to assure socialized medicine and fulfill fedzilla's need for ever expanding power.
I really don't know how these media types can sleep with themselves...playing this stage game and perpetrating this fraud (R vs D) on the American people. Maybe they are just that dumb....?
Moving to a different state of submission?
A true option is to quit paying income tax, which you can do without legal repercussions by quitting the behavior of making income. That is, if you think the America you love is worth a sacrifice of some degree of comfort, affluence, and lifestyle.
If enough people stopped paying, the government would collapse in a matter of weeks or even days. If people organized and did it, with specific demands, there would not even be time for discussion. They could demand anything -- any law, any resignations, any repeal -- and get it, just by taking the pursestring reins in hand.
Moving will get you nowhere different.
Voting will get you nowhere different.
Is this a threat or a promise? I like the idea of some kind of line in the sand.
First we suceed from the GOP!
First we suceed from the GOP!
First we suceed from the GOP!
Could the GOP-E have twisted Roberts arm into voting with the liberals? I found all the coordinated spin coming from some of the so-called conservative pundits (Erikkson, Krauthammer, etc) yesterday disturbing. I think the GOP-E (headed up by the Romney Campaign) told Roberts to vote with the liberals so they could keep 0bamacare as a campaign issue and use it to garner conservative support. The Holder contempt vote was just to placate conservatives over the 0bamacare fiasco. The elites (in both parties) have scripted this thing imo....
Is this the same sell-out Beck who has no problem with homo “marriage?”
“I miss Glenn Beck on FNC. He kicks butts, that is why he was shoved off.”
Yeah...but nothing is as good as the replacement—”the Five clownish idiots”. They’re so cool...(((puke)))
"This president can be a transformative leader (he has that potential in my view), but only if he embraces and fights for a transformative agenda."--Sam Webb, Chairman Communist Party USA
Obama State of the Union: He got the ball rolling:
"We are 5 days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America"
Yahoo search results for "Fundamentally Transforming The United States Of America":
"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or if we wait for some other time. We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek"-- BARACK OBAMA
From the website of the Communist Party, USA...
(prior to the election)
"The Communist Party USA views the 2008 elections as a tremendous opportunity to defeat the policies of the right-wing Republicans and to move our country in a new progressive direction.
The record turnout in the Democratic Presidential primary races shows that millions of voters, including millions of new voters, are using this election to bring about real change. We wholeheartedly agree with them."
After the election....
A Landslide Mandate For Change
A breakthrough election
Congratulations on an extraordinary history making election!
We can think back with pride to decades of hard work toward our strategic goal of a big enough, broad enough and united enough labor and all-peoples movement that could overcome the ultra-right blockage to all progress. That all peoples movement has come to life, it is dynamic and it has the potential to keep growing.
The election of Barack Obama and a strengthened Congress creates new conditions in our country. There is now the possibility to shift gears and move forward. This new day requires us to further develop our tactics in order to continue to deepen and broaden labor and peoples unity.
There are thousands of experiences that we all have had in these momentous days, some large, some small, all of which express the enormity of change in thinking and readiness for involvement that is underway and that steels us for the battles ahead.
The tears of joy we all shared as crowds gathered to watch the election results here and throughout the world dramatize the new moment we are in.
July 1, 2009...
Change is Here, Change is Coming
Sam Webb, National Chair, Communist Party, USA:
Let me begin with a simple observation: If the last 30 years were an era of reaction, then the coming decade could turn into an era of reform, even radical reform. Six months into the Obama presidency, I would say without hesitation that the landscape, atmosphere, conversation, and agenda have strikingly changed compared to the previous eight years.
In this legislative session, we can envision winning a Medicare-like public option and then going further in the years ahead.
We can visualize passing tough regulatory reforms on the financial industry, which brought the economy to ruin.
We can imagine the troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan while U.S. representatives participate in a regional process that brings peace and stability to the entire region.
In the current political climate, the expansion of union rights becomes a real possibility.
Much the same can be said about winning a second stimulus bill, and we sure need one, given the still-rising rate, and likely long term persistence, of unemployment.
Isnt it possible in the Obama era to create millions of green jobs in manufacturing and other sectors of the economy in tandem with an attack on global warming?
Cant we envision taking new strides in the long journey for racial and gender equality in this new era, marked at its beginning by the election of the first African American to the presidency?
And isnt the overhaul of the criminal justice and prison system a system steeped in racism no longer pie-in-the sky, but something that can be done in the foreseeable future?
All these things are within reach now!
"Barack Obama told supporters that
'change has come to America' as he
claimed victory in a historic presidential election."
The Cloward-Piven Strategy of Manufactured Crisis
[Obama's strategy for destroying the economy]
| August 31, 2008 | Jim Simpson
Liberals self-righteously wrap themselves in the mantle of public spirit. They ardently promote policies promising to deliver the poor and oppressed from their latest misery policies which can only find solution in the halls of government. But no matter what issue one examines, over the last fifty plus years, the liberal prescription has almost always been a failure.
Why is this so? Why does virtually every liberal scheme result in ever-increasing public spending while conditions seem to get continually worse? There are a number of reasons:
In short, all develop a vested interest in the programs survival. But if the result is always more and more government, of government, by government, and for government, with no solution in sight, then why do liberals always see government as the solution rather than the problem?
Similarly, liberals use government to promote legislation that imposes mandates on the private sector to provide further benefits for selected groups. But the results are even more disastrous. For example, weighing the laws or stacking the courts to favor unions may provide short term security or higher pay for unionized labor, but has ultimately resulted in the collapse of entire domestic industries.
Another example is health care. The Dems are always trying to impose backdoor socialized medicine with incremental legislation. Why do you suppose American healthcare is in such crisis? Answer: the government has already become too deeply involved. For example, many hospitals are closing their doors because they are overwhelmed with the burden of caring for indigent patients, illegal immigrants and vagrants who must, by law, be admitted like everyone else, despite the fact that they cannot pay for services. Read about it here Destroying Our Health Care. The net result is reduced availability of care for everyone, exactly the opposite of what liberals claim to want.
To further complicate things, liberal jurists and lawyers have created new theories of liability that utilize the legal system as a means to further redistribute income. This too, has resulted in higher costs and prices in affected industries, higher insurance costs, or in some cases, complete elimination of products or services.
Liberals endless pursuit of rights for different groups also does little but create increasing divisions in our society. Liberal policy pits old against young, men against women, ethnic and racial groups against one another, even American citizens against illegal aliens, all in the name of equality. The only result is anger, tension and equal misery for all.
How does any of this improve our lot?
Finally, when companies relocate overseas to avoid the high cost of unionized labor and heavy domestic regulation, liberals sarcastically excoriate them for outsourcing America. Yet, when it comes to certain domestic industries, liberals in Congress suddenly become free marketers and choose to buy from overseas contractors rather than domestic suppliers. This happened most recently with a huge military contract being outrageously awarded to the heavily subsidized European consortium, AIRBUS, over Americas own Boeing. Since liberals claim to be so determined to save the American worker, what gives?
You have to take a step further back and ask some fundamental questions. Why is the liberal public policy record one of such unmitigated disaster? I mean, even the worst batter hits one occasionally. No one bats zero. No one that is, except liberals.
Prior to the Republican takeover in Congress in 1994, Democrats had over fifty years of virtually unbroken power in Congress with substantial majorities most of the time. With all the time and money in the world trillions spent they couldnt fix a single thing, not one. Todays liberal has the same complaints, and the same old tired solutions. Can a group of smart people, studying issue after issue for years on end, with virtually unlimited resources at their command, not come up with a single policy that works? Why are they chronically incapable?
When things go bad all the time, despite the best efforts of all involved, I suggest to you something else is at work something deeper, more malevolent.
I submit to you that it is not a mistake, the failure is deliberate!
There is a method to the madness, and the method even has a name: the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It was first elucidated in the 1960s by a pair of radical leftist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven:
The strategy of forcing political change through orchestrated crisis . the Cloward-Piven Strategy seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.
[Part II of this article will explore those organizations created to implement the Cloward-Piven strategy and their ties to the presidential candidacy of Barack Obama.]
The Complete Cloward-Piven Series
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part I: Manufactured Crisis
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part I print copy
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part II: Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part II print copy
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part III: Conspiracy of the Lemmings
The Cloward-Piven Strategy, Part III print copy
Hate Crimes Legislation Back Door Censorship
Also see (from David Horowitz's DiscoverTheNetworks.org) ...
THE CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGY (CPS):
Tuesday, January 05, 2010
By Glenn Beck
Meet Richard Cloward and Francis Fox Piven,
authors of the Cloward-Piven strategy
"I'm going to give you a hard concept to get your arms around: It's the concept that there are people in this country who want to intentionally collapse our economic system."-Glenn Beck
I guess I’m in the minority here in thinking this ruling is a win on so many levels. While Justice Arnold sold us out, he did what thousands of conservatives, libertarians, freedom thinkers have not been able to do before: show in a stunning way that the game we’ve been playing is rigged.
You can’t win a rigged game. You can only try to change the rules or pick up your marbles and go.
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