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(Virgil)Goode: Romney ‘father of homosexual marriages’ (Constitution Party Candidate)
Augusta Free Press ^ | 12 May 12 | Augusta Free Press

Posted on 05/14/2012 10:53:24 AM PDT by xzins

Former Fifth District Congressman Virgil Goode blasted presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney as “the father of homosexual marriages” in a statement released to the news media on the eve of Romney’s visit to Liberty University this weekend.

Goode, now running for president on the Constitution Party ticket, referred to Romney’s move as Massachusetts governor to issue same-sex marriage licenses in the wake of a state-court ruling.

“Gov. Romney did not stand fast in favor of traditional marriage,” said Goode, who lost his Fifth District seat in 2008 to Democrat Tom Perriello.

Goode said he has been a “consistent supporter of defining marriage as being between one man and one woman.”

“At this point in our country’s history, we need a president who will stand firmly behind traditional marriage and the Federal Marriage Amendment. I am suspicious that Gov. Romney, if elected president, could waffle again,” Goode said.

The stakes, to Goode: “If homosexual marriages become normal across the country, the impact on states like Virginia, which prohibit gay marriage, will be huge. State taxpayers will have to pay for the expanded health insurance costs and State retirement costs. At the federal level, the impact on the Social Security Trust Fund and the Department of Defense will be significant when homosexual partners are granted the same monetary benefits that heterosexual married couples have under current Social Security law and provisions covering military spouses,” he said.


TOPICS: Editorial; US: Virginia
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To: icwhatudo

The court gave the legislature 180 days to comply.

Romney jumped the gun on the legislature.

HOWEVER, Goode has said that Romney did not “stand fast”.

That is entirely accurate. Even by your claim, Romney still caved in rather than fight.


51 posted on 05/14/2012 1:29:31 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: kevcol

mitt... The Chameleon Candidate.

LLS


52 posted on 05/14/2012 1:34:00 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: icwhatudo
Facts seem to always ruin a good and endlessly repeated rant.

Just to review:

The MA supreme court legalized Homo marriage which Romney was against.


Here is a fact I would like to know: Exactly how did the SC of MA "legalize" homo marriage? Are you saying those judges have the right to create Laws and change the State Constitution like that from the bench?

Another question: what were the reprecussions to Governor Willard (sworn to uphold the laws and constitution of the state) for ignoring the judges' unenforcable judicial activism as the legislature did?
53 posted on 05/14/2012 1:42:49 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: kevcol
The added bonus of not voting for Willard is that I get to vote my conscience.

If you vote for a liberal socialist hack (that will be in for 8 more years) to defeat a socialist liberal hack (that will be in 4 more years) what have you gained by voting (R)?

54 posted on 05/14/2012 1:43:29 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: kevcol
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55 posted on 05/14/2012 1:48:18 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: xzins
"The court gave the legislature 180 days to comply. Romney jumped the gun on the legislature."

So what day did he jump in? The 1st? 30th? 100th? 150th? 175th?

"Even by your claim, Romney still caved in rather than fight."

So then by your standards, every conservative governor who caved rather than fight Roe vs Wade is the father of Abortion.

Romney even led protests in front of the courthouse trying to FORCE the legislature to act on the Marriage constitutional amendment. What more did you want him to do? Call out the national guard?

56 posted on 05/14/2012 1:53:45 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: icwhatudo
So then by your standards, every conservative governor who caved rather than fight Roe vs Wade is the father of Abortion.

When did SCOTUS make a ruling federalizing Homo Marriage?

Romney even led protests in front of the courthouse trying to FORCE the legislature to act on the Marriage constitutional amendment.

Hey! I found a flyer from one of his "protests":


What more did you want him to do? Call out the national guard?

He did not have to do/should not have done anything! That's the point.
57 posted on 05/14/2012 2:12:02 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: xzins; All
Virgil Goode is a despicable half-truths spouting liar. A tool for Obama.

While Romney ordered the licenses to be issued, it was for the date state supreme court had required compliance by.

Romney fought the legislature's delaying tactics in an effort to get it overturned but he was out of office before it could finally get to the public vote.

58 posted on 05/14/2012 2:13:14 PM PDT by newzjunkey (I advocate separation of school and sport)
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To: kevcol
"Here is a fact I would like to know: Exactly how did the SC of MA "legalize" homo marriage? Are you saying those judges have the right to create Laws and change the State Constitution like that from the bench?

Do I think they have the right to create laws? Of course not. They do it the same way the USSC does it.

"what were the reprecussions to Governor Willard (sworn to uphold the laws and constitution of the state) for ignoring the judges' unenforcable judicial activism as the legislature did?

Just guessing but something along the lines of what Judge Moore faced in Alabama? Some timeline highlights:

Nov. 18, 2003 Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court (SJC) rules that same-sex marriage is protected in the Mass. Constitution

Feb. 5, 2004 Romney publishes editorial in Wall Street Journal laying all blame on the SJC for problem in Massachusetts. Suggests other states strengthen marriage statutes and pass constitutional amendments.

March 29-31, 2004 Romney seeks stay of SJC ruling until constitutional amendment issue is settled, but Atty. General Reilly refuses to take Governor’s case before SJC.

April 15, 2004 Romney files emergency bill in Legislature to seek stay of SJC ruling, and is rebuffed and reprimanded by Senate President Travaglini. On April 15, 2004 Romney filed an emergency bill in the Legislature to seek a stay of the SJC ruling, and was rebuffed and reprimanded by Senate President Travaglini.

April 29, 2004 Romney writes to 49 other Governors to inform them he’ll uphold section of Mass. marriage statutes banning same-sex marriages for out-of-state couples.

June 22, 2004 Romney testifies before US Senate Judiciary Committee for federal marriage amendment and blames Court for situation in Massachusetts.

June 2, 2006 Romney sends letter to US Congress arguing for federal marriage amendment.

June 28, 2006 Romney urges Legislature to vote on VOM amendment, and addresses importance of following Constitution.

Nov. 19, 2006 Romney holds rally on State House steps announcing he’s delivering a copy of the Constitution to every Legislator who voted to recess the Constitutional Convention (to avoid the vote on the VOM amendment required by state Constitution). Romney also announces he’s appealing to the courts.

Seems like some strange actions for the so called "father" of homo marriage.

59 posted on 05/14/2012 2:13:37 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: xzins; P-Marlowe; cripplecreek; SoConPubbie; wmfights

Finally, an honest candidate for President of the US.


60 posted on 05/14/2012 2:13:51 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: Sirius Lee
You're either voting FOR the queer lovers Obama and Romney, or you'll take a stand, do what's right, and vote for Goode.

LOL! Good luck with that.

61 posted on 05/14/2012 2:16:19 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: icwhatudo
Just guessing but something along the lines of what Judge Moore faced in Alabama?

That was a judge defying a federal court order who was then removed by his peers. Here you had a Governor who could have refused to act on an "edict" from some state activist judges who were bypassing the legislature.
62 posted on 05/14/2012 2:21:25 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: xzins
That is entirely accurate. Even by your claim, Romney still caved in rather than fight.

I suspect you've read the history of Romney's multi-year battle with the legislature and the lawsuit he won to get them moving to allow the people of MA to have a direct vote.

If you know those facts--and I believe you must--you are as much a vile and despicably filthy liar as Obama's willing tool Virgil Goode. You are a Deceiver's Deceiver.

If Romney "caved" as you contend, there would've been NO such fight.

History says differently: he followed the law and fought.

63 posted on 05/14/2012 2:26:25 PM PDT by newzjunkey (I advocate separation of school and sport)
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To: kevcol
When did SCOTUS make a ruling federalizing Homo Marriage?

When did I ever make such a claim? I was talking about Roe vs Wade and how, by your reasoning, conservative Govs that allowed abortion in their states must therefore be the fathers of abortion in those states.

Hey! I found a flyer from one of his "protests":

Pretty sad and sick stuff. No argument from me. But that is not from the rally he led in support of the marriage amendment is it? We are discussing homosexual marriage right? Obama is for it, Romney is against it.

He did not have to do/should not have done anything! That's the point.

So he should have just ignored the supreme court of his state. How did that work out for Judge Moore on the Ten Commandments? Want to argue he did not do enough, should have ignored court, etc etc-fine. But trying to create an impression that Romney ever pushed/promoted/ or supported homosexual marriage is simply not factual.

64 posted on 05/14/2012 2:26:25 PM PDT by icwhatudo (This is not a choice between Romney&Reagan-Its between Romney & most radical leftist Pres in history)
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To: icwhatudo; Gay State Conservative; cripplecreek; xzins
The MA supreme court legalized Homo marriage which Romney was against. The court gave the state 180 days to comply.

Both of which actions by the Supreme Court of MA were illegal and unconstitutional by the Constitution of MA.

Furthermore, Romney was warned way in advance by many legal scholars and conservatives that this was the case, and instead of performing his duty, and responsibility as Chief Executative of the State of MA and refusing to implement a ruling that was both illegal and unconstitutional, he folded.

HARRISBURG, PA, January 19, 2007 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A letter addressed to Massachusetts’ ex-governor Mitt Romney has just been made public in which 44 conservative, pro-family leaders from across the nation requested that before stepping down from office, Romney would adhere to the Massachusetts Constitution and repeal his order directing public officials to perform ‘same-sex marriages’.

The letter was hand delivered to members of Romney’s staff on December 20th, 2006 at his office. Romney took no action to adhere to the letter’s requests before he left office at the beginning of the New Year.

The letter cited numerous, historical cases and the Massachusetts’ Constitution to assert that Romney’s actions in implementing ‘gay marriage’ were beyond the bounds of his authority as governor. The authors further asserted that his actions were unconstitutional as were the actions of the four initial judges who formulated the official opinion on the matter in the ‘Goodridge’ case, the case that originally brought the matter to national attention.

Commenting on the ‘Goodridge’ opinion, Judge Robert Bork said that it was “untethered to either the Massachusetts or United States Constitution.”

As quoted in the letter, the MA Constitution denies the judicial branch of its government any authority over the state’s marriage policies. So it was that three of the seven judges that heard the Goodrich case strongly dissented that the court did not have authority to formulate laws.

The letter also outlined how the MA Constitution forbids judges from establishing or altering law. According to the Constitution, such a task is to be left to the legislature. The judges’ opinion in the Goodrich case admitted that they were not altering the standing marriage statute in MA.

Instead, Governor Romney took it upon himself, despite legal counsel to do otherwise, to order officials across the state that they would have to perform ‘gay marriages’, even though, according to Massachusetts law, to do so is a crime. Officials who refused were advised to resign their position.

65 posted on 05/14/2012 2:29:46 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: icwhatudo
I think your list of timeline highlights omits some significant events. You left a lot of gaps for some reason, I will fill those in using info from the same source I believe you did (red):

Some timeline highlights:

Nov. 18, 2003 Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court (SJC) rules that same-sex marriage is protected in the Mass. Constitution

Jan. 2004 Romney silent on proposal to remove four SJC justices through Bill of Address (put forward by Article 8 Alliance / MassResistance).

Feb. 5, 2004 Romney publishes editorial in Wall Street Journal laying all blame on the SJC for problem in Massachusetts. Suggests other states strengthen marriage statutes and pass constitutional amendments.

Feb.-May 2004 Pro-family leaders and columnists urge Romney to defy court, and issue Executive Order to block same-sex marriage; no public comment from Romney.

March 29-31, 2004 Romney seeks stay of SJC ruling until constitutional amendment issue is settled, but Atty. General Reilly refuses to take Governor’s case before SJC.

March 26, 2004 Word leaks out that Romney’s Dept. of Public Health (DPH) and attorneys are planning training sessions for Town Clerks and preparing same-sex marriage licenses.

March 30, 2004 Romney says he’ll “abide by the law of the land as it exists on May 17” and says he would not order town clerks to defy court edict. Romney says he’d not explored the Constitution section giving him power over “causes of marriage” and whether it gives him any legal power to stop same-sex marriage (according to spokesman).

April 12, 2004 Romney spokesman says training sessions for town clerks will begin “with plenty of room to spare before May 17.” Ron Crews of Mass. Coalition for Marriage states hope for an Executive Order to halt the marriages.

April 15, 2004 Romney files emergency bill in Legislature to seek stay of SJC ruling, and is rebuffed and reprimanded by Senate President Travaglini. On April 15, 2004 Romney filed an emergency bill in the Legislature to seek a stay of the SJC ruling, and was rebuffed and reprimanded by Senate President Travaglini.

April 16, 2004 Romney announces his administration is scheduling training sessions for May 5-12 with licenses changed from “husband/wife” to “Party A/Party B”.

April 17, 2004 Mass. Dept. of Revenue (under Romney) declares SJC ruling the new “law”.

April 22, 2004 Romney does not comment on Rep. Goguen's filing of Bill of Address for Article 8 Alliance/MassResistance to remove the 4 SJC judges, or Article 8’s revelation of Chief Justice Marshall’s violations of the Code of Judicial Conduct. (Marshall had appeared as keynote speaker at homosexual advocacy group dinner in 1999 advocated extension of “rights” for homosexuals, and failed to recuse herself from ruling on same-sex marriage though she had publicly expressed her bias.)

April 26, 2004 Romney’s chief Legal Counsel, Daniel Winslow, issues directive to Justices of the Peace to resign (or be fired, fined, or sued) if they are unwilling to perform same-sex marriages (exact date not given on document).

April 29, 2004 Romney writes to 49 other Governors to inform them he’ll uphold section of Mass. marriage statutes banning same-sex marriages for out-of-state couples.

May 5-12, 2004 Town clerk training sessions held. [GLAD – Gay & Lesbian Advocates & Defenders -- is only source on content of sessions; perhaps they were responsible for content?]

May 15, 2004 Romney issues proclamation: May 15 is “Gay/Straight Youth Pride Day”. Romney’s “Governor’s Commission on Gay and Lesbian Youth” events include parade, GLBT activism (with prominent transsexual radical activists), and a GLBT prom – two days before same-sex marriages are to begin.

May 17, 2004 Same-sex marriages begin across Massachusetts. Romney issues brief statement: “All along, I have said an issue as fundamental to society as the definition of marriage should be decided by the people. Until then, I intend to follow the law and expect others to do the same.” [What law? Original marriage statutes clearly defining marriage as between a man and a woman were –and are -- still on the books, unchanged by the Legislature. So Romney is not enforcing the actual law—just a court opinion.]

June 22, 2004 Romney testifies before US Senate Judiciary Committee for federal marriage amendment and blames Court for situation in Massachusetts. June 2, 2006 Romney sends letter to US Congress arguing for federal marriage amendment. June 28, 2006 Romney urges Legislature to vote on VOM amendment, and addresses importance of following Constitution. Nov. 19, 2006 Romney holds rally on State House steps announcing he’s delivering a copy of the Constitution to every Legislator who voted to recess the Constitutional Convention (to avoid the vote on the VOM amendment required by state Constitution). Romney also announces he’s appealing to the courts.

66 posted on 05/14/2012 2:39:32 PM PDT by kevcol
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To: xzins
Tell me what I said that was inaccurate, and if it is, then I’ll say it is.

I quoted your post, in italics, in the my first reply to you on this thread.

Post number 38.

Which was my reply to your post number 11.

Goode is the only real conservative in the race.

Again, that's simply not true.

That's before we even look at parts of Mr. Goode's record that some, including myself, wouldn't consider to be conservative.

67 posted on 05/14/2012 3:00:10 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (We're not Republicans or Democrats. We're Americans. Visit SelfGovernment.US.)
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To: xzins

Bravo, lets vote for Obama... Ah I mean Virgil!


68 posted on 05/14/2012 3:10:50 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: kevcol

The question is: How do you make what you, just, posted become what the majority of conservative voters and what the majority of anti-Obama voters end up doing? We can’t be sure to, even, get the majority of FR voters to vote for Virgil Goode, this November!


69 posted on 05/14/2012 3:16:47 PM PDT by johnthebaptistmoore (The world continues to be stuck in a "all leftist, all of the time" funk. BUNK THE FUNK!)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

Obama could be accurately described as a “successful candidate” that is also socialist.

Romney could be accurately described as a “successful candidate” that is also socialist.

The party they belong to is IRRELEVANT (sort of). Electing a socialist president who happens to be in the republican party, is BAD.... He will be unstoppable, what few republicans refuse to support his socialist agenda will be replaced with socialists the Democrat party that WILL.

Think prescription drug entitlement , TARP, etc...

If it comes down to a choice between a gop socialist or a dem socialist ill choose a dem socialist if I can control one branch of gov with republicans.


70 posted on 05/14/2012 3:17:37 PM PDT by myself6
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To: xzins
A sinner is evil, as is a serial killer. Thus both are evil, though one less so than the other. Should we apply the death penalty to both since they are both evil to some degree?

To make the statement that the lesser of two evils is still evil, fails to take everything into consideration.

Voting for Virgil is in reality a vote for Obama, regardless if you want to believe it or not, and especially so if you are in a critical swing state. So if Obama does win re-election you can pat yourself on the back that your principles elected the serial killer over the sinner.

71 posted on 05/14/2012 3:18:51 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong

A vote for Romney is a vote for a socialist that will be HARDER to stop than a democrat socialist.

Anything Zero tries to do to advance his socialist agenda will be blocked by the republicans in the hous (and or senate).

Anything Romney tries to do to advance HIS socialist agenda will be much easier to pass because a significant percentage of the GOP will go along with him simply because hes a republican and those that wont will have their AYE votes replaced by socialist in the democrat party.

ROMNEY IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO


72 posted on 05/14/2012 3:26:05 PM PDT by myself6
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To: myself6
Anything Romney tries to do to advance HIS socialist agenda will be much easier to pass because a significant percentage of the GOP will go along with him simply because hes a republican and those that wont will have their AYE votes replaced by socialist in the democrat party.

ROMNEY IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO

___________

You mean he's George Bush III?

I guess I could live with that.

Survived the first two, anyway.

73 posted on 05/14/2012 3:36:18 PM PDT by x
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To: xzins
I live in this effeminate hick's old district. Trust me! He's a lightweight and an embarrassment. And a former Democrat. Don't make a fool of yourself by paying attention to him.

Go for a 4th party LaRouchie (are they still around?) before voting for this phony.

74 posted on 05/14/2012 4:00:02 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Let's name a law after a kid who died because of CAFE standards!)
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To: myself6
No, I disagree. Obama is absolutely the worse case scenario. The worst President ever to occupy the White House, and you foolishly believe we can survive as a free people after Obama gets to tear us apart for 4 more years.

There may not even be elections after this cycle, and don't be surprised if something happens to stop even this election.

What we need to do, if Romney gets elected, is put the fear into the hearts and minds of Congresscritters and Senatoids that this march, or even a continued slow creep, towards more socialism will no longer be tolerated. We do have ways to fight back my friend, but only if we have someone that somewhat respects freedom.

If Reagan were able to vote in this election, would he vote for Virgil? I don't think so.

75 posted on 05/14/2012 4:00:02 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: kevcol
Many of us do not buy the argument that a vote for anyone but Willard is detrimental in the long run to Conservatives. In fact, I personally feel it just the opposite:

I can deal with sending the Gop-e a message, while gridlocking Obamao for another 4 years (or even maybe impeachment), improving or getting majorities in both houses, and having those [R]'s resisting the socialist agenda, and a chance for a true Conservative nominee in 2016. I know things will not get too out of hand to the point of no return (i.e. looking at record firearms and ammo sales) so I cannot be scared into voting for Willard.

Right!

And even IF we manage to take control of the Senate (say 52 or 53 to 48 - 47 Demo Rats, I can BLOW your (and your HATE Romney/Mormons fellow delusional Freepers) right out of the water.

Ready?

Do any of these names ring a bell?

John McCain
Lisa Murkowski
Jon Kyl
Charles Grassley
Mitch McConnell
Susan Collins
Lindsey Graham
Orin Hatch
Scott Brown
Thad Cochran

Yeah, with these wuss RINO's there is NODOUBTABOUTIT, "they" will keep Dear Leader in check.....that is when not voting with him or his Demon-Rat stooges in Congress

Why don't you and your fellow ABR Freepers just take a big swig of hemlock now and save yourself the trouble of recriminations later after O'Bummer wins a second term and proceeds on his merry way, issuing EO's, ignoring the Constitution, having his Czars and heads of Agency such as EPA, Interior, etc. thumb their noses at the SCOTUS, and moves full steam ahead "transforming" our Republic (READ: DESTROYS) and stop and ponder how y'all's standing on "Principles" no doubt helped his re-election efforts.

How will you all feel then?

The old Evil Empire had a name for folks like you and the others here who will ignore the facts and foolishly help Dear Leader thru naivete, ignorance or plain ol' stooopidity: They were referred to as "USEFUL IDIOTS!"

76 posted on 05/14/2012 4:01:40 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: Crucial

Agreed. Virgil is practicing, IMHO, some extreme hyperbole here.

To my knowledge, throughout this campaign Romney has stated again and again (including at the debates) that he supports a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as he spoke of it at Liberty U.

I do not see him giving any opposing message regarding that message.

Others in the GOP perhaps have, but on this issue I have yet to see it from Romney to date. I wish these folks could point me to an opposing statement by him as regards the Marriage Amendment. All I have heard is his support of that amendment, which is exaclty in line with what he stated at the speech.

He reaffirmed this last week in a statement to Denver station KDVR-TV,

“Well, when these issues were raised in my state of Massachusetts, I indicated my view, which is I do not favor marriage between people of the same gender, and I do not favor civil unions if they are identical to marriage other than by name.”

He went on to reaffirm his supports of a federal constitutional amendment defining marriage as between one man and one woman according to the National Organization for Marriage pledge he signed.

He also pledged to defend the Defense of Marriage Act in court, in contrast to the Obama administration, which does not defend DOMA as it thinks the 1996 law banning is unconstitutional.

We should all also note, as regards his record in Mass., when the Mass Supreme Court ruled that gays had the right to marry in 2003, initially Romney said that although he would follow the ruling as Governor, he would seek a constitutional amendment to overturn it.

Ultimately, that was unsuccessful, and he had to resort (and did) to a variety of tactics to try to block the ruling, but he was unsuccessful there as well in blocking it through the remainder of his term in office. This was because the overwhelming majority of legislators and Judges in Mass, for a long period of time (pre-dating Romney), have been Democrats and very left leaning.

The people in Mass, and the legislators in Mass may have fathered this thing, but not Romney. In fact the record shows he was against it and fought it as Governor.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm

THE MAN WHO DESPISES AMERICA
http://www.jeffhead.com/obama-time.htm


77 posted on 05/14/2012 4:06:24 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Robert DeLong

I can play that game too..

If Reagan were still alive, I believe that he would make another speech declaring that he did not leave the republican party... The republican party left HIM when it nominated a socialist as its candidate for president.

I think that If we go back and look at reagans positions, we will find that my position is far more anchored in reality than yours (Regan would support a socialist). The so called “11th” commandment only goes so far. Suppporting a socialist is so far over that line its comical.


78 posted on 05/14/2012 4:15:45 PM PDT by myself6
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To: xzins
Before I read the thread let me guess that the Mittbots came out of the woodwork to lambaste you for campaigning for Obama or something.

The "A vote not for Romney is a vote for Obama" nonsense is probably the most vile and offensive kind of slander.


79 posted on 05/14/2012 4:22:58 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

That list of peeps is interesting...

Those are about the only republicans that will join in woth democrats to enact Obamas socialist agenda. However, the republicans in the house will most likely stand firm against his agenda.

If Romney wins... MOST of the gop in the house and senate will join that list of douche bags in passing Romney socialist agenda. The gop that refuse to give an AYE vote will be replaced with dem socialists that WILL give an AYE vote.


80 posted on 05/14/2012 4:23:22 PM PDT by myself6
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To: xzins

Goode is a fool, a horrible candidate, and only trying to get some publicity.

Why do we post this idiocy, except to help re-elect Obama!


81 posted on 05/14/2012 4:35:14 PM PDT by MindBender26 (America can survive 4 years of Romney. She cannot survive another 4 years of an unfettered Obama!)
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To: Jeff Head

Its a terrible thing to watch folks you once respected trying to justify and rationalize something that just cant be. These folks would rather attempt to manipulate reality into something comfortable for them than deal with the brutal facts.

“Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it. “ — you know who...

You and your compatriots are deluding yourselves if you think a socialist will be your savoir. Heh.. the fact that you dont even recognize him for his actions with romneycare and liberal judge appointments is troubling. What even more troubling is that you are able to willingly deceive yourself into completly forgiving the fruits of his labor because of what he is saying now to get elected.


82 posted on 05/14/2012 4:38:06 PM PDT by myself6
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To: myself6

No, Reagan would not say that. Because he would recognize the real danger of a successful re-election of Obama.


83 posted on 05/14/2012 4:46:18 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong

No..

He would recognize the suicidal strategy of electing a socialist as a republican and thus removing the ONLY opposition to implementing socialist agendas.. The republican party...

Are you giving up on repealing obama-care? If you support romney ( the FATHER of obamacare ) you are...


84 posted on 05/14/2012 4:54:28 PM PDT by myself6
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To: xzins

Virgil Goode was a democrat congressman as recently as 2002.

Virgin Goode is no conservative.

Beware of the wolf in sheep’s clothes.


85 posted on 05/14/2012 5:01:23 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: xzins; All; tomkat

I have compose this litte biological descrtipion of man and woman life.. If its too much and its offending, I apologize.

See here’s the story. One time long, long, long ago, God decided to create a man and woman. First, he created a man with a special add-on call it a snake, then decided to create opposite calling a woman, with a flush lights and bush.
One day snake saw the bush, and was happy and saw flush lights and said - hmmm let me check this out, so he went to bush and went through tunnel and saw something he didn’t know and released his seed. And woof, Baraboo, abloom, 9 months later you have beautiful baby.

Now for homosexuals, and homolesbestos, playing ping pong with private parts , nothing happens.

I hope this simple explanation of nature is nice and doesn’t offend anyone. Truth is truth, though.

[Romanian native > ESL]


86 posted on 05/14/2012 5:09:42 PM PDT by MCSP2008
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To: ImpBill

I think I’m voting for Goode, too.


87 posted on 05/14/2012 5:10:43 PM PDT by Politicalmom (THIS IS NOT A GOP CHEERLEADING SITE!!!)
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To: MCSP2008
Yep, 'truth is truth' .. that's about the size of it, brother  
88 posted on 05/14/2012 5:15:41 PM PDT by tomkat (stop that !-)
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To: Politicalmom

Goode is a lib. Former democRAT.

A vote for him is a vote for Obama.


89 posted on 05/14/2012 5:18:18 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: tomkat

Merci


90 posted on 05/14/2012 5:20:17 PM PDT by MCSP2008
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To: BarnacleCenturion

No, it’s not. You don’t seem to understand the concept of “casting a vote”.

Besides, I live in CA. It doesn’t matter what I do. But if I still lived in GA, I would still NEVER vote for Romney. He’s an amoral, lying, opportunistic, power-hungry, selfish, backstabbing, leftist, abortionist, amoral, homosexual-supporting socialist.


91 posted on 05/14/2012 5:26:01 PM PDT by Politicalmom (THIS IS NOT A GOP CHEERLEADING SITE!!!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Too bad Bob Barr didn't get the Liberatarian nomination this time. This years vote would have been easy.

This time they took a left and nominated Gary Johnson

92 posted on 05/14/2012 5:32:31 PM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: EternalVigilance

As I have many times before, I will be throwing away my vote on a 3rd party again this election. Dems = Pubs for decades. F them both, I don’t care if BO gets a 2nd above MR.


93 posted on 05/14/2012 5:48:20 PM PDT by wrencher
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To: myself6
To: Conservative Vermont Vet

That list of peeps is interesting...

Those are about the only republicans that will join in woth democrats to enact Obamas socialist agenda. However, the republicans in the house will most likely stand firm against his agenda.

Really?

REALLY?

Here is but ONE example to chew on:

-February 13, 2012,

The GOP’s accession to reality on the payroll tax cut is being cast as a key victory for Democrats and President Obama. Republicans caved, the payroll tax will almost certainly be renewed, and the economy won’t take a tough hit just as the recovery’s beginning to accelerate.

But it also reveals a flaw — a potentially huge flaw — in the conservative movement’s generational strategy to roll back the federal safety net.

These might sound like two wildly disparate issues, but they’re actually variations on a years-long theme. And the outcome of the payroll tax debacle bodes poorly for the GOP on the rest of their long-run goals.

Here’s why.

For years and years, conservative elites have rested their hopes of shrinking the federal government, including its most popular programs, on the theory that if they just “starve the beast” — keep taxes low until the budget comes under enough strain that those programs have to be slashed — then Democrats will ultimately fold, rather than touch off a fiscal crisis.

Republicans have scrimmaged with this strategy over the past year. The debt limit fight was premised on the Republicans’ threat that they’d put the country’s creditworthiness at risk to force Democrats to agree to spending cuts. And Democrats basically caved.

Fast forward to the end of 2011, Republicans used the looming expiration of the payroll tax cut to demand further cuts to government services.

“There’s no debate about whether these extensions ought to be paid for,” House Speaker John Boehner said in November. But of course Republicans ruled out financing the payroll cut with a small tax on millionaires, and demanded they be paid for with spending cuts elsewhere in the budget.

When Democrats resisted, that strategy blew up in his face, the payroll tax cut nearly lapsed, and Republicans took a beating with the public.

So with the payroll tax cut set to lapse once again, the entire GOP leadership has backed off the demand that the policy be offset. Democrats weren’t going to let the GOP set the ground rules for that fight. And instead of entertaining the idea of even a small, temporary tax increase on wealthy people, Republican leaders have agreed to finance the payroll tax cut with yet more debt — over the strong objections of their own members.

Tax cuts, and benefit programs are different beasts, and that’s why Republicans have agreed to isolate the payroll holiday from other expiring provisions. But the key is that when Republicans recognized that the public was wise to them — that their tactics were putting a popular policy in jeopardy — they backed off.

The same dynamics govern the longer fight over programs like Medicare and Social Security. At some point in the months and years ahead, when policymakers are forced to weigh cuts and big reforms to those programs against higher taxes on the wealthy, Republicans will stand to own the consequences, if they push revenues off the table.

What Democrats have to do is remember how they won the fight over the payroll tax cut, and stick to the same playbook.

So, do your REALLY want to put your FAITH, TRUST and HOPE on the Weeper of the House....

th
....and willing to GAMBLE on the future and survival of our Republic on him?

If so, may I suggest you have another glass of Kool Aid.

94 posted on 05/14/2012 5:55:08 PM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: icwhatudo
So then by your standards, every conservative governor who caved rather than fight Roe vs Wade is the father of Abortion.

Nope. That would be the president at the time. RvW is a federal court.

The legislature NOT acting was preventing the issuing of marriage licenses.

Romney UNDERCUT their non-action. What's hard to understand about that?

95 posted on 05/14/2012 5:58:32 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: EternalVigilance

OK. I didn’t contest your comment about your conservatism. I simply said that when you post that you should identify yourself as the person about whom you are posting.


96 posted on 05/14/2012 6:03:16 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Sorry, doesn’t wash. Goode was a cultural democrat, and during his tenure his voting record was more conservative than the republicans. As a republican his voting record was more conservative than republicans.

IOW, he did NOT fit in either of those parties.

Zell Miller is always held up as the ideal conservative democrat. Virgil Goode’s conservative rating was twice that of Millers.

But, let’s give Romney a review. Is Romney, in your opinion, a solid conservative politician?


97 posted on 05/14/2012 6:08:24 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Politicalmom; BarnacleCenturion

Don’t listen to the BS. Goode was one of those born and bred democrats from the south who realized the party had left him (same as Reagan.)

Goode even voted TO IMPEACH Bill Clinton.

Want me to list the number of republican reps and senators who let Clinton off the hook for violating the rule of law?


98 posted on 05/14/2012 6:11:32 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

lol...

Yet your wiling to vote for a socialist to be president and THEN trust the weeper to block any socialist programs romney will want to push through. The weeper will then have the cover of weeping for a guy in the SAME PARTY!

You think Your gonna get obamacre repealed with president romney? You wont even get congress to defund it with president romney. ALL you’ll get is Robomney-care...


99 posted on 05/14/2012 6:13:34 PM PDT by myself6
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To: MindBender26
Why do we post

"We" didn't post this. "I" did. And I did because Romney is a liberal and not a conservative.

Are you willing to tell me Romney has a solid conservative record? Here's your chance.

100 posted on 05/14/2012 6:16:00 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode not Evil (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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