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A Cancer at the Heart of the Church
Courageous Priests ^ | April 17, 2012 | Fr. Mark Kirby

Posted on 05/08/2012 5:28:22 AM PDT by IbJensen

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Father Kirby gets a bingo!

The widespread and rampant desecration of the Eucharist is the very eye of this Apocalyptic hurricane that is roaring against the Faith and tearing the Church asunder. When all is said and done, the profanation of the temple is what is inciting the coming wrath upon humanity, so the true apostles of these last times must repair to Christ at the tabernacles of the world and ease His injured Heart in imitation of St. John and the Blessed Virgin who remained anchored at the foot of the cross in spite of the sacrilege of the jeering crowd.

Only God can rescue the Church from the present flood of evil, but we have to help hold the ailing Bark of Peter afloat until help arrives from Heaven.

1 posted on 05/08/2012 5:28:34 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

sheesh even at the Lutheran church they kneel for Communion.


2 posted on 05/08/2012 5:36:01 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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3 posted on 05/08/2012 5:38:53 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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The reception of Holy Communion standing, and in the hand.

There are arguments to be made in favor of these.For example,I have two bad hips and find it *very* difficult to kneel or genuflect.I certainly can't be the only one.As for Communion in hand...public health.The possible (unintentional) transmission of various diseases,some minor,some not so minor.

4 posted on 05/08/2012 5:47:47 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Julia: a casualty of the "War on Poverty")
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Father Kirby gets a bingo!
I couldn't agree more.
5 posted on 05/08/2012 5:56:29 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Being in a condition that makes it ‘very difficult’ to knee can certainly be overlooked and not be excused as there isn’t anything you can do about the condition.

Why change any of the mass? Pope Pius X guaranteed it in it’s present form in perpetuity.


6 posted on 05/08/2012 5:57:41 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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>>As for Communion in hand...public health.The possible (unintentional) transmission of various diseases,some minor,some not so minor. <<

So instead it’s a “Communal Cup?” Even Barney says not to drink out of anyone else’s cup.

As for transmission of diseases, my husband is an EMHC at our parish which kneels and receives on the tongue. He received training how to distribute communion without touching a person’s lips. It sticks. All you have to do is take the host by one side and touch the other side to the tongue. It sticks there and the person distributing never spreads a germ.

As for kneeling, the majority of the people can kneel. If you can’t, it’s not any big deal. Everyone knows you can’t if you don’t. My daughter has a teacher with horrible RA. she doesn’t and no one thinks anything of her.


7 posted on 05/08/2012 6:02:48 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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To: IbJensen
– The reception of Holy Communion standing, and in the hand.

– The introduction of Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion.


THIS!

I refuse to receive from any of the lay ministers I will always go to the line served by the priest, even if it means waiting for that whole side of the church to go first.
8 posted on 05/08/2012 6:14:10 AM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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My daughter has a teacher with horrible RA. she doesn’t and no one thinks anything of her.
Wow, tough congregation.
9 posted on 05/08/2012 6:15:45 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: IbJensen

What also gets me is that when it’s time to receive Communion, it seems like the entire church takes it. That’s very different from my kiddiehood - has everyone been to Confession the day before? I doubt it. But then, maybe the Church doesn’t demand that anymore either...


10 posted on 05/08/2012 6:15:55 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: IbJensen

I would add another thing to Father’s list: children not being taught to genuflect toward the tabernacle when they enter or leave the church. Sometimes it’s difficult to find where the tabernacle is in some churches because it’s been “tucked away” in some corner. Also, the replacing of the crucifix with statues and images of the resurrected Christ remove the meaning of the sacrifice that is celebrated during mass.


11 posted on 05/08/2012 6:21:24 AM PDT by reegs
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>>Wow, tough congregation. <<

Ooooo, you caught me in a “Bad English” moment!
We all love her.


12 posted on 05/08/2012 6:26:15 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Romney scares me. Obama is the freaking nightmare that is so bad you are afraid to go back to sleep)
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I am also saddened when I see, especially at Christmas and Easter, everyone receiving communion knowing that many are receiving unworthily. Unfortunately, too many in my generation were told by religious teachers and even some priests, that if we are truly sorry for our sins, we don’t need to go to confession.


13 posted on 05/08/2012 6:26:43 AM PDT by reegs
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To: IbJensen
"Pope Pius X guaranteed it in it’s present form in perpetuity."

Which he had no authority to do, the form of the Mass not being a matter of "faith and morals", but of discipline.

None of the listed "bad things" had anything to do with my decision to become RC four years ago.

The problem is due to abysmal catechesis, and nothing else. (and yes, the RCIA program I went through was (and is) abysmal). Fortunately, I read the "Catechism of the CC" from cover to cover before setting foot in RCIA, so most of the claptrap simply bounced off.

14 posted on 05/08/2012 6:39:38 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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Having the priest face the congregation? There goes the whole ceremony! Introducing novel hand movements should be on the list too, shouldn’t it?

This what straining at gnats looks like.


15 posted on 05/08/2012 7:09:50 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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I am also saddened when I see, especially at Christmas and Easter, everyone receiving communion knowing that many are receiving unworthily.
And you know everyone's state of grace ... how?
16 posted on 05/08/2012 7:19:43 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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This what straining at gnats looks like.

This isn't straining at gnats. This is a big, big deal. Having the celebrant face the people is damaging to the Mass in multiple ways. The Sacrifice is turned into a show.

17 posted on 05/08/2012 7:30:31 AM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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“This what straining at gnats looks like.”

Liberal Catholics sure do agree. That what this looks like.

Freegards


18 posted on 05/08/2012 7:31:28 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: IbJensen

another problem is the invention of the car which makes it difficult for churches to enforce church discipline because people can just drive to the next church.

seriously.

even more serious however is the teaching of the Arian heresy in some seminaries. (according to this heresy Jesus is fully man but not fully God. Nicean creed was arranged to combat this heresy but its tough to combat when the clergy believes false doctrine.)


19 posted on 05/08/2012 7:44:13 AM PDT by ckilmer
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Of course there is always provision for those who are physically unable to kneel - the priest will come to those who are unable to approach as they sit in their wheelchair or in the front pew. But exceptions don't make the rule. I've had my share of stints on crutches - when I used to be an Episcopalian (where everybody STILL kneels) they were happy to give me communion standing at the side of the rail. But everybody else kept on kneeling. Wiping out the tradition of a thousand years for the sake of a few people is not a good reason.

As for the concern about 'sanitation', actually communion in the hand is WORSE. Hands are germ magnets - and there's often contact hand-to-hand between the EEMs and people who come up after blowing their noses or worse. When the Host is properly administered by the priest, It is simply set on the tongue - no contact at all. Even EEMs can be taught to do this properly -- they administer communion on the tongue at our parish and there's no trouble at all.

20 posted on 05/08/2012 7:53:32 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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