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To: IbJensen
"Pope Pius X guaranteed it in it’s present form in perpetuity."

Which he had no authority to do, the form of the Mass not being a matter of "faith and morals", but of discipline.

None of the listed "bad things" had anything to do with my decision to become RC four years ago.

The problem is due to abysmal catechesis, and nothing else. (and yes, the RCIA program I went through was (and is) abysmal). Fortunately, I read the "Catechism of the CC" from cover to cover before setting foot in RCIA, so most of the claptrap simply bounced off.

14 posted on 05/08/2012 6:39:38 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: Wonder Warthog
You've been a ‘Catholic’ long enough to realize that the entire Novus Ordo ‘rite’ is designed to entertain the congregants for a short period of time.

Those bongo drums and guitars are supposed to secularize the ceremony and make the hip-hop crowd feel comfortable.

The chattering that goes on as soon as the gaggle enters what passes for a sanctuary proves that those people believe there is nothing important about to happen.

Oh, and where's that tabernacle? Open enough doors and you'll be sure to see it. The priest is merely the president of the congregation and he generally sits during the readings and if a deacon is available he doesn't even read the gospel.

There is nothing Catholic about the Novus Ordo. When one goes from church to church and especially to a foreign country, one has no idea what is going on.

The new churches are bare and look like aircraft hangars. Votive candles? Forget it. Some have electric ones that will stay lit with a Chinese light bulb for a few hours. The sermons are dry as toast and nothing controversial comes forth like ‘watch out how you live your life or you may spend an eternity in hell.

23 posted on 05/08/2012 8:07:25 AM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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