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Family says teen didn't have to die (Yes he did.....society is better off)
WFMZ ^

Posted on 01/30/2012 6:29:02 PM PST by Red in Blue PA

It all happened last Wednesday. Prosecutors say Johnson, who was already on probation for aggravated assault, robbed two men in West Reading and was attempting to rob a third along a bike path in Cumru Township in Berks County. But the would-be victim was carrying a licensed firearm, and shot two of his attackers. Johnson was killed. A friend is now in the hospital.

Johnson's mother, Idella Hopkins George, said, "Do I believe he was justified in shooting my son? I would say no."

The family acknowledges Johnson's actions were wrong, but they question why a warning shot couldn't have been fired first.

Johnson's sister, Ashley Jones, said, "He's a kid. His actions-- I don't approve of his actions at all, but he didn't deserve to have his life taken."

In recent days a Facebook memorial page has been flooded with sometimes hateful posts -- referring to Johnson as a "thug" who died like the dog he was.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: armedcitizen; banglist; selfdefense; warningshot; warningshots
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The mother should be charged!

If one allows dogs to go around biting people, they will be charged.....so why shouldn't a mother who allows her son to assault people ona regular basis?

1 posted on 01/30/2012 6:29:03 PM PST by Red in Blue PA
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To: Red in Blue PA
The shooter was just helping us with the gene pool.

That robber wasn't smart enough to live.

2 posted on 01/30/2012 6:32:32 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Yeah, your kid got shot because YOU DIDN’T RAISE HIM WELL.


3 posted on 01/30/2012 6:32:36 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Technically speaking, the mother is correct.

He didn’t have to die. He also didn’t have to decide to be a thug and spend his time harming people.


4 posted on 01/30/2012 6:32:44 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

“The family acknowledges Johnson’s actions were wrong, but they question why a warning shot couldn’t have been fired first.”

Because the dirtbag might get away and harm another human being? Just throwin’ it out there..


5 posted on 01/30/2012 6:33:47 PM PST by max americana (Buttcrack Obama is an idiot)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Here, Idella. A little cheese to go with that whine...


6 posted on 01/30/2012 6:35:36 PM PST by bigheadfred (Bang a gong)
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To: Red in Blue PA

A warning shot? Why waste a perfectly good round?


7 posted on 01/30/2012 6:37:30 PM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

In other news, Idella Hopkins George says she intends to vote for Barrak Obama again.


8 posted on 01/30/2012 6:37:46 PM PST by optiguy (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.----- Ronald Reagan)
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To: Red in Blue PA
recent days a Facebook memorial page has been flooded with sometimes hateful posts -- referring to Johnson as a "thug" who died like the dog he was.

That's not hate, that's accuracy. Pretty much gets it right.

9 posted on 01/30/2012 6:37:56 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Red in Blue PA; max americana

It was a warning shot, lady.

To all his friends...


10 posted on 01/30/2012 6:38:49 PM PST by bigheadfred (Bang a gong)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Julius Johnson killed on the job.
Johnson's mother, Idella Hopkins George.
Johnson's sister, Ashley Jones.

Don't any families in the hood have the same last name?

11 posted on 01/30/2012 6:39:17 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: bigheadfred

Good shooting, Citizen. Civilization thanks you.


12 posted on 01/30/2012 6:40:02 PM PST by hal ogen (1st Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Red in Blue PA
why a warning shot couldn't have been fired first

No legitimate professional, Law Enforcement, or Military weapons training endorses or even condones "warning shots". A weapon is meant to stop, subdue, and kill an assailant. In this case that's what it did, as it should have.

If I decide that my life, property, or family is in jeopardy and I draw my weapon somebody is going to die. I don't take prisoners and I don't call 911 while the perp has a pulse.

13 posted on 01/30/2012 6:40:12 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: crosshairs

Man Charged After Firing Warning Shot

MARSHALLTOWN, Iowa — A Marshalltown homeowner faces felony charges after shooting at a trespasser Sunday afternoon. Officials said the trespasser has been charged with a misdemeanor...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2758731/posts


14 posted on 01/30/2012 6:40:56 PM PST by donna
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To: Jonty30
He didn’t have to die. He also didn’t have to decide to be a thug and spend his time harming people.

Megadittos in the absence of a "like" button.

15 posted on 01/30/2012 6:41:11 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini--nevertheless, Vote Santorum!)
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To: bigheadfred

Hoo-AHHH!


16 posted on 01/30/2012 6:41:50 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

One of my clients told me “last names are not important”


17 posted on 01/30/2012 6:41:50 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Red in Blue PA

I am sad for the parents. But parents tell your frickin’ kids that people are entitled to arm themselves and it is dangerous to assault people. You just might get killed.


18 posted on 01/30/2012 6:42:03 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Sorry ma'am but if your son had not chosen the path of robbing innocent people, he just might still be alive.
19 posted on 01/30/2012 6:42:07 PM PST by pray4liberty (dare I say it??)
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To: Red in Blue PA
The family acknowledges Johnson's actions were wrong, but they question why a warning shot couldn't have been fired first.

Because "warning shots" can kill innocent bystanders.

And there is no such thing as "shoot to wound," because arteries are everywhere.

20 posted on 01/30/2012 6:42:14 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: lightman

We need a like button.


21 posted on 01/30/2012 6:42:49 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
In recent days a Facebook memorial page has been flooded with sometimes hateful posts -- referring to Johnson as a "thug" who died like the dog he was. For his family, dealing with a tragedy and questions about what more they could have done, the words have been painful.

Not as painful as being beaten and robbed by this thug.

22 posted on 01/30/2012 6:44:02 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Red in Blue PA
hey, Idella...

23 posted on 01/30/2012 6:44:45 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Many criminals NEVER stop until they are incarcerated...

Prosecutors say Johnson, who was already on probation for aggravated assault, robbed two men in West Reading and was attempting to rob a third...

...or eliminated

Justice is most efficiently served whenever the innocent victim can turn the tables on the criminal.

24 posted on 01/30/2012 6:45:01 PM PST by PGalt
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To: RnMomof7

You never hear these people moan when innoncent people wind up in ICU’s or morgues.


25 posted on 01/30/2012 6:45:56 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
“The family acknowledges Johnson's actions were wrong, but they question why a warning shot couldn't have been fired first.”

Had I been conducting my life like this guy, there would
have been warning shots fired BY my family. Grandpa would
have put one right over my head and promised the next would
be lower if needed. (I'm only exaggerating slightly)

26 posted on 01/30/2012 6:45:59 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: bigheadfred

“It was a warning shot, lady.”

“To all his friends...”

This gets my vote for post of the day.


27 posted on 01/30/2012 6:45:59 PM PST by duffee (NEWT 2012)
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To: Red in Blue PA
The family acknowledges Johnson's actions were wrong, but they question why a warning shot couldn't have been fired first.

It was a warning shot. A warning to all the others.

28 posted on 01/30/2012 6:47:33 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Red in Blue PA

Sounds like junior chose wrong.


29 posted on 01/30/2012 6:47:36 PM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

With one pull of the trigger the average IQ of the human race rose ever so slightly.


30 posted on 01/30/2012 6:47:55 PM PST by Yankee (ANNOY THE RNC AND THE MEDIA: NOMINATE NEWT GINGRICH!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

You don’t know how old “the kid” is. If he were 18, the parent is not accountable. She did not “allow” her son to assault anyone. There are parents who try to bring up their kids in a good way, and try to stop their kid from doing bad things, but it doesn’t always work. The mother is only responding out of grief, the same way as any good mother would.


31 posted on 01/30/2012 6:49:08 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: crosshairs
A warning shot? Why waste a perfectly good round?

Besides, a warning shot could potentially have hurt or killed an innocent bystander.

32 posted on 01/30/2012 6:49:13 PM PST by Bob
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To: Chode

33 posted on 01/30/2012 6:49:48 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: struggle

As I told Red in Blue state, she might have tried her best, but the kid didn’t want to listen. It’s not always bad parenting.


34 posted on 01/30/2012 6:50:29 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Red in Blue PA
This made my blood boil watching that video.

I am not "happy" the dumb thug kid got killed, but that guy who was carrying was damned lucky, and I am "happy" that he wasn't hurt.

Underneath the video: "...Family remembers shooting victiim..."

Boy, did reading that irritate me. Shooting victim? SHOOTING VICTIM? If anyone was victimized here, it was the poor guy who had to use his weapon to defend himself. He was right, but it can't be easy to live with.

I was also pissed listening to his family, especially his stupid sister. Fire a warning shot? What, so the violent feral teen thugs have time to pull their own guns out and shoot him instead? They watch too much damned television.

Ma'am, sorry your son had to die. I truly am. But I would have been a heck of a lot sorrier to hear that "senior citizen" had a concussion and multiple contusions.

35 posted on 01/30/2012 6:50:29 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: oneamericanvoice

From the video, the “kid” was sixteen.


36 posted on 01/30/2012 6:51:22 PM PST by rlmorel ("A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject." Winston Churchill)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Dogs act on instinct.
People act on purpose.

The kid made a CHOICE, and he paid the ultimate price for his bad decision.

If I ever robbed or assaulted an innocent, my Family would disown me. There wouldn’t be any excuses or bail money coming my way, that’s for sure.


37 posted on 01/30/2012 6:52:32 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Red in Blue PA
In recent days a Facebook memorial page has been flooded with sometimes hateful posts -- referring to Johnson as a "thug" who died like the dog he was.

Well, there's no reason to be hateful. And so I will go on record as saying that I love that miserable, brutal, ignorant piece of human excrement who reveled in other people's pain and whose entire live was devoted to feeding off their vulnerability and making his entire world a more cruel, savage, and disgusting place to be.

I mean that in the nicest way.

38 posted on 01/30/2012 6:53:02 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: bigheadfred

Shame on you! Would your mother be “whining” if you were killed? The lady is in grief. You know nothing about her. But then your screen name says it all.


39 posted on 01/30/2012 6:53:02 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: Feckless

It’s not a good idea to voice intentions that could be considered premeditation on the internet. No matter how confident you are that it could never be connected with your real name, and that you will never be involved in a self-defense shooting.


40 posted on 01/30/2012 6:55:05 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (I'd agree with you, but then we would both be wrong.)
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To: rlmorel

I have a hard time with the way the media plays it too.....as though flat in the dirt on one’s back getting pummelled in thead head leaves open a lot of options.

Anyone judging this man has not a single clue of what he went through.....nor what the monsters perpetrated.


41 posted on 01/30/2012 6:56:42 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: rlmorel

These people think life is an old “A Team” episode. Machine gun fire, explosions, car wrecks and fights, yet nobody gets more than a bloody nose.

Warning shots, LOL. That’s so “T.J. Hooker”.


42 posted on 01/30/2012 6:57:04 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: oneamericanvoice

Yeah, he was “turning his life around.”


43 posted on 01/30/2012 6:57:17 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: rlmorel

The sister talking about a warning shot is only trying to process the pain of her loss. It is sad that the kid chose the wrong path and paid with his life.

So many of the posters on this thread are disgusting. They know nothing of the family, yet deride them in their time of grief. It makes me frequent FR less.


44 posted on 01/30/2012 6:57:17 PM PST by oneamericanvoice (Support freedom! Support the troops! Surrender is not an option!)
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To: oneamericanvoice
Shame on you! Would your mother be “whining” if you were killed? The lady is in grief. You know nothing about her. But then your screen name says it all.

Shame on you! You know nothing about me. But then, you're just an a$$hole..

45 posted on 01/30/2012 6:57:25 PM PST by bigheadfred (Bang a gong)
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To: Red in Blue PA
I am reminded of a 20 year old man who was admitted because he was in a sickle cell crisis. He had come from a facility where he was serving time for armed robbery.

He was adamant, no transfusions. I asked him why. “Because my Mama [a Jehovah's Witness]said it was a sin.”

It was all I could do to keep from asking if she skipped over the part about sticking a gun in someone’s face and stealing their money.

46 posted on 01/30/2012 6:57:50 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Truth is a Weapon
I am sad for the parents. But parents tell your frickin’ kids ..."

Parents aren't around. Only the mothers and the grandmothers.

47 posted on 01/30/2012 7:01:11 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Red in Blue PA

I feel for this old gentleman. I wish he was getting spared what police officers get every time they have to shoot one of these ferals.

It’s the same old mantra. “My kid was a good kid, he didn’t nothing, or well, maybe he made some “mistakes” but he didn’t deserve to die.”

Well, Hoang D. Nguyen, 72,

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/article_5facf0f8-6b62-11e0-a889-0019bb30f31a.html

didn’t deserve to die either, and the same thug mentality that was directly responsible for Nguyen’s death was tried on the gentleman who was able to defend himself.

A hundred unsolved crimes cleared, a thousand future crimes averted.


48 posted on 01/30/2012 7:01:20 PM PST by Molon Labbie (End the War On Drugs, Restore the Constitution.)
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To: oneamericanvoice
So many of the posters on this thread are disgusting.

Ah! WE are disgusting for pointing out that there is a 100% chance this thug will not be a recidivist.

The family isn't disgusting by allowing this behavior to continue.....

nor to make excuses for what he is caught time and again.

Yup, it's us who are disgusting./s

Get a clue moron.
49 posted on 01/30/2012 7:01:31 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

I’m all for that warning shot. The first one center body and the second one right after.


50 posted on 01/30/2012 7:01:35 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Never Have Regrets Because At The Time It Was Exactly What You Wanted")
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