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An Angry Newt Could Hurt Romney
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | January 4, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/04/2012 12:36:51 PM PST by Kaslin

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RUSH: Newt came out there and he's mad. Newt is ticked off. He is livid over the negative ads that Romney ran. Well, Romney's PAC ran against him in Iowa. And it's true, it's safe to say that Romney's ads took Newt out. Newt was at the top of the heap going into Iowa. Those ads worked. They took the bottom right out. Newt's foundation just plummeted. And Newt is angry about it, and it came across that he was angry. And some people say that that's not good, and Snerdley said, "It's not, it's not good. You're supposed to be ebullient and optimistic and positive and so forth. You're not supposed to get mad out there on the campaign trail. It shows intemperance, lack of judgment," so forth and so on.

But let me tell you how this is gonna manifest itself. Newt's not getting out. He's in this to destroy Romney now. Newt may be more motivated to destroy Romney than to even win this. Now, who does that benefit? Santorum, who's gonna be sitting out over there on the other side, you know, doing the Mr. Clean routine. Newt's already got a full-page ad in the Union Leader comparing himself to Romney. And Bachmann's gotten out, and Bachmann was one of Romney's chief agitators for a while. Then she backed off hoping, people theorized, that she might be positioning herself to be picked as the veep. But now it's possible that Romney might have to endure Newt going for the jugular in these debates. There's a Saturday night debate coming up, right? I think there's a debate Saturday night, and Newt is going to be loaded for bear. The gloves are coming off. So Newt will do to Romney, will try to do to Romney what Bachmann did to Pawlenty and to Newt. You know, she was a thorn in Newt's side. She wouldn't let go of it. Newt didn't get mad at her so much, but he got mad at Romney 'cause of the ads. Newt's motivated now.

Now, Snerdley, you can sit in there and say this is unbecoming to be mad, but I'm telling you: Newt is motivated now. Who cares about...? He is motivated to ruin it for Romney, and as such if Newt can be -- and I'm not saying he can. I'm just giving my own little bit of dime store analysis here. If Newt can be the guy to really make the case against Romney... Nobody has tried, folks. Romney has not been attacked. We have noted this throughout. The media hasn't attacked Romney; the establishment hasn't attacked Romney. Nobody has, and now Newt can't wait. It's personal. (interruption) I don't know if it'll backfire or not. Who knows? This is the thing! We don't know what's gonna happen with this. Backfire? How can it backfire?

Newt plummeted to, what, fourth place from leading the thing? It's already backfired. What's he got to lose? And there might be a huge upside here. Because nobody has really taken it to Romney. So if Newt can be the first person to make a case against Romney, a credible case against Romney, then Santorum is positioned out there to perhaps take advantage. The conventional wisdom on Santorum is, "What a joke! This guy can't win anything beyond Iowa. He's an extreme pro-lifer," and, in fact, folks, the Libertarians -- this from conservative media, these two headlines. "Rick Santorum's a Big Government Conservative. He's Be a Disaster in the White House." That's James Delingpole in the UK Telegraph, and Delingpole's a conservative.

Then there's Michael Tanner, National Review Online: "Santorum's Big Government Conservatism." So from parts of the conservative media an attack on Santorum now is: "He loves big government! He wants big government to do his bidding. He's not a small government guy." There's a coordinated effort now, there is a mantra: "Santorum, big government guy!" I've undertaken here to learn more details about his economic policy after I heard his speech last night. There were parts of it that intrigued me. So I dug deep today and I've got a pretty good overview of what Santorum's economic policy is. I'll share it with you as the program unfolds, but this is nowhere near over now. This is just getting started.

And the long-desired winnowing of the field is taking place. So the conservative vote is going to be split less -- and Sarah Palin's out there. I don't know if anybody heard this last night, but she's going on, "You know, we better not marginalize Ron Paul's people. This isn't over! I might get back in." She didn't say those words. She didn't say those words, but the door is open; she might get back in. Anything Here. But the interesting thing to me is Newt. He's angry and if he can make the case and takes it to Romney, it'll be the first time that's been done. And there's Santorum there to pick up the pieces, and maybe Newt himself. So we might actually have a conservative going after the moderate, which hasn't happened yet in this whole cycle.

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RUSH: There are six or seven debates in January. The big one is South Carolina. This New Hampshire... This is another thing, folks. New Hampshire is gonna be interesting but it's not over after New Hampshire, either; and don't let anybody tell you that it will be just like it wasn't over after Iowa or it wasn't over before Iowa. It's not gonna be over after New Hampshire no matter what happens there, and now... (sigh) By the way, I don't know whether to mention this or not. I'm gonna go ahead and mention it. McCain announced last night -- while Santorum was speaking!

You think the establishment doesn't have it in for conservatives? While Santorum was speaking, McCain announces he's endorsing Romney. Now, that's some personal payback going on. You remember back in '08 Romney and McCain? I mean, everybody hated Romney. Huckabee hated Romney! Romney was running negative ads against people back then. I just got a note, "Rush, does it seem like every election cycle all the other candidates hate Romney?" Yeah, 'cause he's always had more money than they do and he's always been out running negative ads long before they have and it was the same thing in '08, and that's why Huckabee and McCain teamed up against Romney in West Virginia where it really did Romney in.

That led into Florida, with Charlie Crist's endorsement of McCain. But Romney made amends. He spent the next couple of years making amends with the establishment, he went out and campaigned for McCain, so it's payback time now. Here's McCain endorsing Romney. Now, this. Let me put it this way: If I were seeking the Republican nomination for president, there are people whose endorsement I would want and people who I wish would not say anything, and McCain would be one who I would hope wouldn't come out in my favor. That's all I'm saying.

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RUSH: Now, if I'm Romney -- and I'm not Romney -- but if I am Mitt Romney, I might be a little worried because New Hampshire where I'm scoring big in the preelection polls, is largely irrelevant. As everybody knows that I, Mitt Romney, have been campaigning there and dropping money there for years, and I have an insurmountable lead in the polls. So New Hampshire, yeah, I'm gonna win big, but that's expected.

Rick Perry looks like he's staying in. Still confusing here. The tweets are out there. The way I'm reading, looks like he's staying in this thing. Which makes me happy, glad he is. But he might have to begin to consider when to pull the plug in coming weeks. I hope not. But money's money and debt is debt. Michele Bachmann has decided she didn't want to go into debt to stay in this, so she has pulled out. So if Gingrich stays in, and he is, he's gonna take on the role of Romney's definer. We were talking about this yesterday. Newt, I'm telling you, is fed up with being defined by these negative ads. I just saw a statistic, 80% of all ads run prior to the Hawkeye Cauci in Iowa were personal ads aimed at Newt, the front-runner going in. Eighty percent of all ads -- I'm gonna double-check the stat. I see these things on the fly here, so bear with me while we double-check it. But 80% of all ads were adds aimed at an individual and 80% were aimed at Newt. The point is there were very few ideas ads. They were personal ads.

Gingrich got defined and he's ticked off. So he stays in. Now, he probably will take on the role of Romney definer. Santorum has emerged here as a real threat, and they're taking it seriously because this mantra here that Santorum's big government conservative, folks, don't doubt me on this. That is the single greatest indication that they're afraid of him and taking him seriously. Because he's not a big government guy, not in that way. Romney needs Perry to stay in. Romney would have been helped if Bachmann had stayed in because Romney needs the conservative vote split. He needs to split the conservative vote and hope that others will focus on Newt during the debates, not him.

If they drop out, which now Bachmann has, Newt hangs on, Romney becomes the focal point in the debates now, which hasn't yet happened. The question then becomes, can Romney put Santorum away? The question now becomes, what does Santorum have post-Iowa? Santorum didn't have any money. Santorum went to every county on the ground. It's called retail politics. I hate the term, but that's what it's called, retail politics. He shook hands in 99 counties. He went to thousands of whatever, town halls, I don't know how many doughnuts the guy ate. But whatever, I'm jealous, 'cause he can eat all that food on the campaign trail and still look trim and thin and all that. At any rate, Romney needed Perry to finish ahead of Newt, and it didn't happen, so Santorum's surge, Newt out for revenge. There's a new dynamic that Romney is now facing for the first time in this race.

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RUSH: The Washington Post says that only 40% of the Iowa ads were aimed at Newt. I have seen a higher figure, like 80%. Maybe the 80% was ads that were personal against all candidates rather than issue oriented. Regardless, still a high number, and they worked, as negative ads always do.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: backstabberromney; benedictromney; brutusromney; rushlive; saboteurromney
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1 posted on 01/04/2012 12:36:54 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Now they turn on each other.


2 posted on 01/04/2012 12:38:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Kaslin
I'm coming for you Romney!


3 posted on 01/04/2012 12:40:28 PM PST by VicVega ( GEAUX LSU TIGERS, GEAUX SAINTS)
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To: Kaslin

At least someone’s finally going to stick it to Romney.


4 posted on 01/04/2012 12:42:12 PM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State | Gingrich 2012)
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To: nickcarraway
Reagan and Bush fought it out only to be on the same ticket.

Betting the outcome would not be the same.

5 posted on 01/04/2012 12:42:20 PM PST by VicVega ( GEAUX LSU TIGERS, GEAUX SAINTS)
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To: Kaslin
Looks like friendly old “Uncle Newt” from the debates is going to to transform into “Darth Newt”. Anybody that remembers the Newt of the 1990’s knows he's more the capable of playing dirty hardball with the best of them. Like Rush said, it's not even about Obama anymore, Newts got him sites set on taking out Romney and if he accomplishes that, he will consider it a personal victory.
6 posted on 01/04/2012 12:42:23 PM PST by apillar
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To: Kaslin

Newt + open mic + GOP Primary voters watching + grudge against Romney = fun times at the debate Saturday night (unless you are a Romney fan)

Now, this may sink Newt, but at this point I think he would think wrecking Romney’s chances might be worth it.


7 posted on 01/04/2012 12:43:17 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Kaslin

An angry romney has already hurt most of the other candidates...


8 posted on 01/04/2012 12:44:01 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Kaslin

Whack-O-Willard!


9 posted on 01/04/2012 12:46:53 PM PST by Leep
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To: Kaslin

I agree with Rush. I think the gloves are coming off Sat night at the next debate. Would not miss it for the world. Time to make Mitt sweat a little.


10 posted on 01/04/2012 12:48:11 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe the wife can pick me an nice bauble for Tiffanys to make him feel better?


11 posted on 01/04/2012 12:48:37 PM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Kaslin
Newt should go after Romney for the lies and smears run to the tune of millions of dollars. Romney is always given a free pass. Why? he gets a slight tap once in a blue moon but he needs some hard knocks! "If Newt can be the guy to really make the case against Romney... Nobody has tried, folks. Romney has not been attacked. We have noted this throughout. The media hasn't attacked Romney; the establishment hasn't attacked Romney. Nobody has, and now Newt can't wait. It's personal. (interruption) I don't know if it'll backfire or not. Who knows? This is the thing! We don't know what's gonna happen with this. Backfire? How can it backfire?" GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NEWT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12 posted on 01/04/2012 12:48:46 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I think Newt’sa willing to take a chance that if he can destroy Romney he will have a shot out of who is left. But even if he ends up clearing the road for Santorum or Perry I think he would consider that worth it. I just think Romney really pissed him off and now he’s gonna pay.


13 posted on 01/04/2012 12:50:41 PM PST by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. | FR Class of '98 |)
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To: Dr. Ursus

Newt can buy whatever he wants to buy with his OWN money. It is noone’s business. I don’t care if it comes from Tiffany’s or Walmart...it is HIS money!!!


14 posted on 01/04/2012 12:51:18 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Kaslin
Look. I heard Hannity the other day decrying the "lies" told about Newt in the ads run against him in Iowa. The example Sean gave was that one ad apparently claimed Newt supported "amnesty."

Well, Hell's Bells. You can sit there all you want and talk about a technical definition of amnesty, but the fact is that Newt did propose an immigration policy that allowed illegal immigrants to stay in the U.S. Sorry, Newt, but, rightly or wrongly, that is very easy to characterize as "amnesty," and someone who was truly a savvy politician, as opposed to a motormouth, would know that. It doesn't matter whether it is technically amnesty or not. As presented, it is a policy that many do not agree with.

Moreover, when Newt announced this proposal, he prefaced it by saying something like "I know I'm going to get into trouble [with conservatives] on this." IOW, Newt knew VERY WELL that what he was about to propose could and would be characterized as amnesty, no matter what he said about.

On that basis alone, I think Gingrich -- and Hannity -- gave up any basis whatsoever for complaining about Gingrich's immigration position being characterized as amnesty. Gingrich knew that was going to be a problem and he went there, in the way he did, at the time he did, with the words he did, anyway.

Gingrich took the risk that he would be unable to persuade people that his policy did not amount to amnesty (and regardless of the technical definition thereof), and now he had to pay the piper.

That is all.

And that is typical Newt. Say something in such a way that it requires millions of hours of detailed analysis and explanation to get out the liberal stench that accompanied the original explanation.

15 posted on 01/04/2012 12:53:16 PM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: VicVega

That was the biggest mistake Reagan ever made. Why he would pick a VP who would dismantle his legacy is beyond me. Not to mention the fact Bush’s biggest donor’s son shot Reagan.


16 posted on 01/04/2012 12:54:25 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: katiedidit1

How about if it came from his aunt or uncle Freddie and Frannie, which was the point.


17 posted on 01/04/2012 12:55:27 PM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: Kaslin
And it's true, it's safe to say that Romney's ads took Newt out.

I disagree with this in degree.

You know who took Gingrich out? Michelle Bachmann did, at the final debate in Iowa, Dec. 16th. When she nailed him on his Freddie Mac ties and all he did was stammer around and sputter that "I did not . . . have lobbying relations with . . . that Liberal pet rock . . . Freddie Mac."

Freddie Mac was always going to bite Gingrich on the butt and Bachmann made sure it did.

THAT was the beginning of the possible end for Gingrich. Romney supporters did not start piling on until Gingrich's numbers had already started plummeting.

18 posted on 01/04/2012 12:58:23 PM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: nickcarraway

Based on what you wrote, you seem to know the reason. It’s like he was forced into it.


19 posted on 01/04/2012 12:58:57 PM PST by VicVega ( GEAUX LSU TIGERS, GEAUX SAINTS)
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To: Kaslin

after watching how pissed Newt was last night, I posted on the live thread that Newt can be the perfect ‘bad cop’ to Santorum’s ‘good cop’. That’s what I think we’re now going to see...


20 posted on 01/04/2012 12:59:11 PM PST by bigbob
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