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To: Las Vegas Ron; All

I don’t agree with the idea that being underemployed is solely the fault of the person. The economy is horrendous right now and I’m sure plenty of Freepers and their family members are without jobs. I’m not sure how Cain feels on all this, but the loss of jobs available isn’t ONLY a matter of laziness. Obama isn’t helping and the European problems are flooding our markets.

Tell me, is he sympathetic with the average person who is trying but unable to gain employment?


18 posted on 10/09/2011 4:20:22 PM PDT by Rick_Michael ( 'REAL' Conservatives who witch hunt their own, are no better than Obama.)
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To: Rick_Michael
Cain suggests (rightly so) that if these protesters want jobs, they should be protesting Washington DC and the White House.

It is there that the policies are made that have destroyed the economy and taken their jobs.

23 posted on 10/09/2011 4:24:36 PM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: Rick_Michael
Tell me, is he sympathetic with the average person who is trying but unable to gain employment?

IMHO it sounds like he's saying that if you don't have a job and you're here marching and destroying property it's your fault. I find it hard to believe he would fault the honest guy or gal that's legitimately trying to find work.

I admit I have no proof of this, but Cain is a smart man and wouldn't shoot himself in the foot just as his campaign is picking up steam.

26 posted on 10/09/2011 4:26:53 PM PDT by YankeeReb (No matter what, AB0 in 2012.)
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To: Rick_Michael

The average person who is trying, but unable to gain employment are not the ones who are protesting - take a look at the pictures of the protestors, their signs and their list of demands.


33 posted on 10/09/2011 4:31:53 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: Rick_Michael
Tell me, is he sympathetic with the average person who is trying but unable to gain employment?

Um, is it the 'average person' or 'unemployed freeper' out there doing these little anarchist dog and pony shows?
34 posted on 10/09/2011 4:32:32 PM PDT by brent13a (Freerepublic is a great sight for conservative news, if you can stomach the cop hating.)
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To: Rick_Michael

Maybe not all are unemployed.

“Make $350-650 a week “protesting” on Wall Street.”

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/gov/2618821815.html


36 posted on 10/09/2011 4:36:46 PM PDT by PMAS
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To: Rick_Michael

Anyone that wishes to work can find work, the ones that are on the lazy side cannot.


39 posted on 10/09/2011 4:43:52 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: Rick_Michael
I don’t agree with the idea that being underemployed is solely the fault of the person.

Nor do I but what does that have to do with his comments on the vermin which is the subject of this thread?

I have never heard Cain blame the idea of the under employed being their fault.

Please enlighten me.

45 posted on 10/09/2011 4:50:42 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: Rick_Michael

“Tell me, is he sympathetic with the average person who is trying but unable to gain employment?”

Of course. That’s why he actually has a plan instead of just giving speeches and asking to be your voice.


46 posted on 10/09/2011 4:52:06 PM PDT by ari-freedom (We need a Steve Jobs Plan: encourage innovation, not regulation.)
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To: Rick_Michael
If you looked at some of the Herman Cain video statements you would understand that his comments are directed at the Occupy Wall Street crowd - not those that are unemployed and looking for employment.

Have you see the majority of these folks? They don't have a clue why they are there and they are playing havoc with NYC’s economy and those who are trying to make a living.

48 posted on 10/09/2011 4:52:59 PM PDT by not2worry (IF YOUR ARE NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM)
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To: Rick_Michael
Tell me, is he sympathetic with the average person who is trying but unable to gain employment?

No, absolutely not, that's why he's proposing a radical restructuring of the tax system to free businesses to grow the economy and get people employed.

57 posted on 10/09/2011 5:02:25 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Rick_Michael
Cain is waging the good fight against the temptations of assuming the victim posture. I'm sure he respects anyone who is striving instead of whining and blaming.

As far as being underemployed, I don't really know what that means. My daughter who was graduated from college with honors took a job working at a fastfood/gas station starting at ten dollars an hour until she could find something better. Was she under-employed? Should she have complained about how unfair it all was? Did she "deserve" something better?

60 posted on 10/09/2011 5:05:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Rick_Michael

“I don’t agree with the idea that being underemployed is solely the fault of the person.”

Stop whining. If you have a marketable skill jobs are available. A free market will generate enough jobs for anyone wanting work. Conservatism is the answer to a better economy.


72 posted on 10/09/2011 5:26:51 PM PDT by Roy Baty
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To: Rick_Michael

Unable to gain employment, but not out looking for work, either. I Guess I would have sympathy for the hypothetical you set up, but does it apply to any of the defecating, urinating, trash piling know-nothings that are a part of this protest?


73 posted on 10/09/2011 5:27:03 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota (Which are you? A producer, a looter, or a moocher of wealth?)
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To: Rick_Michael
"Tell me, is he sympathetic with the average person who is trying but unable to gain employment?"

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No. He hates them and is on record as hoping they contract terrible diseases.

Geeze.

Hank

76 posted on 10/09/2011 5:48:09 PM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Ping me to join my anti-Christadelphian list - The best arcane religious doctrinal squabbling on FR!)
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To: Rick_Michael

Did he say anything about everyone who’s under or unemployed. There are plenty of things these people could do besides standing in the street, in the filth they created and holding up signs whining for a handout. Hard to do anything productive that way. Times are very hard but it’s nearly impossible to get a job when you’re sitting in the street.

Cindie


110 posted on 10/09/2011 9:10:40 PM PDT by gardencatz (Proud mom US Marine! It can't always be someone else's son.)
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To: Rick_Michael
Tell me, is he sympathetic with the average person who is trying but unable to gain employment?

Yes, he is. He addressed and clarified that comment in that nasty interview with Lawrence.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2789190/posts?page=93

121 posted on 10/10/2011 3:17:35 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Rick_Michael
If these people are unemployed, or underemployed, then why aren't they out looking for work, as opposed to having the every night drug and sex parties as reported on Fox this AM.

One is a burglar wanted in Connecticut who is there because he can score free food and free drugs every day.

Worthless 60s Hippies all over again

125 posted on 10/10/2011 5:23:46 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: Rick_Michael

Cain’s angst is with people who expect the government to take care of their every little problem. Particularly those who look to the government to get them employed.

His point is we as individuals are responsible for ourselves. We exercise that responsibility by getting an education, being ambitious, finding a job that one enjoys and is good at, recognizing employment mistakes and moving on and voting for politicians whose roots are in the Constitution, Bill of Rights and capitalism.


173 posted on 10/10/2011 11:39:30 AM PDT by dools0007world
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To: Rick_Michael

While I agree with you that being underemployed may be in part due to the economy and not 100% the fault of the individual, we do all pick our own career paths and some of us have not chosen careers that are in the best of shape these days, so we are at least in part responsible if we are underemployed or unemployed.

I am a firm believer that if there are not opportunities out there for you, then you must create your own opportunities. That is the American way. Sometimes we have to create our own success. Take a part time volunteer position or an unpaid internship to get yourself some new skills, and get some money coming in by doing yard work, babysitting, or even offering to work on a 100% commission basis for sales you make.

Most of us have heard stories from parents, grandparents and great grandparents about how resourceful they were during the great depression. Now is the time for all of us to be just as resourceful. While times are different now and we may have to adapt some of their ideas to fit our own lives, most of us are competent enough to do so. Some of their ideas are just as helpful today as they were then.

When meat was expensive and therefore scarce, my grandfather bought chickens and rabbits and raised them in his backyard and kept not only his own family well fed, but helped his extended family and others in his neighborhood do so as well. He also planted a garden and helped others plant gardens themselves.

His wife cooked and preserved the food they raised and grew and took in laundry, sewing, and mending for others that were better off than they were. Both also took any job they could find to earn money for their extended family and all the children did what they could do to to help out too. At one point in time there were four generations of my family living with them all working toward the good of the entire extended family and all of them pooling their resources.

While most of us haven’t resorted to raising rabbits and chickens yet, many of us already have gardens, and are preserving the extra food we have grown and purchased so we will have it in the future. Many of us have already stocked up on staples such as rice and beans to help us be able to keep our families well fed in the event that our family finances are impacted by a job loss.

I am sure many have downsized their homes and posessions, selling off things they could do without, in order to have money to spend on the things they need for their families. The American way is to have a can do attitude and to take care of yourself and your own family. It is not the American way to live off the government or to take from those who do work hard so you don’t have to work hard yourself.

The tea party, Freepers, and other conservatives are motivated by the American way of life based on hard work and responsibility, while the Occupy Wall Street protesters seem to want to take from the rich so they protesters don’t have to work so hard. The apparently can’t understand that if they take the wealth from those who do work, eventually there are just a lot of poor people and no wealth because those who don’t want to work have squandered the wealth of those willing to work hard.


177 posted on 10/10/2011 2:15:41 PM PDT by Flamenco Lady
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To: Rick_Michael
I don’t agree with the idea that being underemployed is solely the fault of the person.

Neither do I. It's the fault of the DEMOCRAT PARTY and their liberal big government progressive ilk.

You want unemployment to go down and get people working again? GET RID OF THE LIBERALS. Get them out of office and this country will start working again.

179 posted on 10/10/2011 3:17:39 PM PDT by pcottraux (Alvin Greene/Basil Marceaux 2012)
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