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I don't believe Obama is a Muslim
2/18/2011 | Self

Posted on 02/18/2011 10:08:15 AM PST by TheThinker

I used to believe Obama was a Muslim. I also believed he overtly meant America harm as well as the Israelis. I didn't believe these things for bigoted reasons. I just worry about the safety of my country which ensures the safety of people of all races and ensures any hope for peace for future generations.

The real problem is that Obama offers little in area of transparency. However, to be intellectually honest, I don't have a shred of proof that Obama is currently a practicing Muslim and I don't wish to spread that idea. I don't have any proof that he deliberately wants to harm the United States either. It's just frusrating to see America is such a terrible state, saddled with a leader unwilling to listen and truly engage his countrymen, while the boat we are sitting in takes in more water and there are people scooping water into the boat.

I do know for sure that I don't wish any harm to be done to Obama and with the Gabriel Giffords shooting, Democrats are rightly worried that the charged political speech might possibly encourage more violence. Granted, I think shootings from the right side of the spectrum are not likely but that doesn't mean others won't be inspired. When she gets back on her feet, she'll have a lot to say about the subject so I think it's time to tone it down, to self-regulate what we say.

Sarah Palin is right when she says that the Muslim issue is annoying and distracting. One thing that is important to America's safety is unity. Unity is important as long as it is based on the idea to promote the freedom and advancement of the individual rather than increasing the power of the federal government over the individual. The type of unity we need seems nowhere in sight.

Americans simply aren't on the same page because too many Americans don't have even a basic grasp of our history and the true moral worth of their country, which compared to other countries is exceptional. What too many forget is that America has had greater challenges than other countries in trying to reconcile its ideals with its actions.

Although I don't believe Obama's policies are intentionally destructive, I do believe they are reckless and destructive nonetheless. But Obama really doesn't diverge that much from other liberal politicians on the issues. We have been on the same path for some time and that path is going downhill. We have to reverse ourselves on spending. There's only so much wealth created and to allow government to regulate that wealth is a recipe for disaster. We have to work to regain our sovereignty. It's back to basics.

The political atmosphere is reaching a fever pitch in my opinion. If some crazy decides try to harm the president, there will be an upheaval in this country. We don't need it. I say we should go after Obama's policies with all the energy used to attack him personally, because I think Obama's safety and America's safety are intertwined.


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To: Katya

that’s right, like criminals in court rooms who think they’re influencing the jury as to their goodness, politicians, when election time nears, start carrying bibles, attend church once or twice for the photo -op and in Obama’s case, starts referring to himself as Reagan


61 posted on 02/18/2011 11:23:46 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: TheThinker

You sound like a good, decent, right thinking american. But you are naive to think that Obama is just incompentent and reckless. That could not be farther from the truth. Barack H. Obama is a lifelong committed idealogue. He is a pure Marxist. He was not kidding when he said he was going to “ fundamentally transform America.” Everything Obama has done since the day he took office has the final objective of destroying our Capitalistic system and replacing it with a Marxist regime. Make no mistake. He will never cease in his efforts to destroy our country as we know it. Not until he is either removed from office (My personal choice) or is voted out in 2012.

As to whether Obama is a Muslim none of us know for sure but I would bet a new Porche on it.


62 posted on 02/18/2011 11:37:25 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: TheThinker

You are naive. Whether or not he is a muslim is irrelevant. He is supportive of islam and that is sufficient and yes, he is intentionally destructive. He has stated that he wants to fundamentally change this nation. How will he do so without destroying what is already in place?


63 posted on 02/18/2011 12:00:08 PM PST by pacific_waters
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To: Responsibility2nd
It is very telling that you are not demanding that Romney, Huckabee, Pawlenty, Daniels, Christie, Pence, Johnson, Thune, Ron Paul, Gingrich, and the others (maybe even Rick Perry), stick their necks out and speak up about the eligibility issue.

Obama is not a lock for 2012, and he probably won't even be running, if there is even an election.

Do you even know the difference between a candidate for any particular office and a person who is currently holding such an office?

Why don't you appeal to the current official President of the USA to get this eligibility issue resolved? Think about this for a minute, and maybe some of these clues will start to click into place for you.

No, Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore.

64 posted on 02/18/2011 12:21:53 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: TheThinker

This was well said. Although you will be flamed


65 posted on 02/18/2011 12:23:56 PM PST by Moleman
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To: TheThinker

OK. Beyond all the arguments regarding his behavior, why did you post what you think in News/Activism, rather than Chat?


66 posted on 02/18/2011 12:25:31 PM PST by FourPeas
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To: IncPen

Yep, that is the moment I knew he was a Muslim.


67 posted on 02/18/2011 12:59:16 PM PST by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (We be Fooked.)
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To: TheThinker

Obama, since he was born of a Muslim father, was born a Muslim by Islamic law.
There is no doubt he is STILL a Muslim.
Just a few quotes from his speeches:
“Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit”
Barack Hussein Obama
“We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over so many centuries to shape the world for the better, including my own country.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“The contribution of Muslims to the United States are too long to catalog because Muslims are so interwoven into the fabric of our communities and our country”
Barack Hussein Obama
“I have lived in a Muslim-majority country... I know, because I am one of them.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“And since our founding, American Muslims have enriched the United States.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“And I consider it part of my responsibility as President of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“Moreover, freedom in America is indivisible from the freedom to practice one’s religion. That is why there is a mosque in every state of our union, and over 1,200 mosques within our borders. That is why the U.S. government has gone to court to protect the right of women and girls to wear the hijab, and to punish those who would deny it.”
Barack Hussein Obama
“We are not nor have we even been at war with Islam”
Barack Hussein Obama
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This is what the Marxist/Muslim
has done with American tax dollars while
Americans lose their jobs and homes-
and as he prepares to stick Americans with
the highest tax in history!
BILLIONS FOR JIHAD!
Obama’s 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and “passed by the full committee.” Not sure what the next step is, but based on the summary, it gives billions http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2009/05/13/obamas-supplemental-bill-passes-gives-billions-to-enemies/
of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies.
Read the summary from David Obey’s office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.
• $3.6 billion, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces
• $400 million, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces
• Afghanistan: $1.52 billion, $86 million above the request
• West Bank and Gaza: $665 million in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza
• Jordan: $250 million, $250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance
• Egypt: $360 million, $310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance, $50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance
• Pakistan: $1.9 billion, $591 million above the request
• Iraq: $968 million, $336 million above the request
• Oversight: $20 million, $13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq
• Lebanon: $74 million
• International Food Assistance: $500 million, $200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis
• Refugee Assistance: $343 million, $50 million above the request, …including humanitarian assistance for Gaza. Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)
• Disaster Assistance: $200 million to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia
• Peacekeeping: $837 million for United Nations peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic
• Department of Justice: $17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system
The mainstream media remains silent on this but the International News has now picked up the story http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=22164
— and then there is Obama’s $108 billion IMF bailout scheme http://michellemalkin.com/2009/05/13/obamas-100-billion-imf-bailout-scheme/
in addition to the Supplemental.
And THIS is what Obama is doing to American taxpayers:
THE BIGGEST TAX HIKE IN AMERICAN HISTORY:
http://www.atr.org/days-thebr-largest-tax-hikes-history-a5370
PDF Version:
http://www.atr.org/files/files/090310pr-jan2011taxes.pdf
Obama gives your tax dollars to rebuild Muslim mosques around the world
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/26990#
According to the Associated Press, the Obama administration will give away nearly $6 million of American tax dollars to restore 63 historic and cultural sites, including Islamic mosques and minarets, in 55 nations. See the State Department document here.
http://exchanges.state.gov/media/pdfs/office-of-policy-and-evaluations/ambassadors-fund/afcp2010list.pdf
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From Dreams From My Father: “THE PERSON WHO MADE ME PROUDEST OF ALL, THOUGH, WAS MY [half brother], ROY..HE CONVERTED TO ISLAM”.
From ‘Dreams From my Father’, “IN INDONESIA, I SPEND TWO YEARS AT A MUSLIM SCHOOL” “..I STUDIED THE KORAN..”
‘Audacity of Hope: “LOLO (Obama’s step father) FOLLOWED ISLAM....”I LOOKED TO LOLO FOR GUIDANCE”.
From ‘The Audacity Of Hope, “I WILL STAND WITH THEM (MUSLIMS) SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS OF WAR SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION..”
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080101164820/http://www.examiner.co m/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html?cid=dc-article-obama
http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20080101164820/http://www.examiner.com/a-536474~_Trapped_between_two_worlds_.html?cid=dc-article-obama
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____________________
OBAMA MOCKS THE BIBLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw
____________________
0bamas’ hidden records:
Why are these off limits?
Why has he paid out millions to lawyers
to keep all this hidden???
1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0’s SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Obama 1964 Divorce Papers - 13 Pages - Missing Pg 11
24 Why isn’t Barack Obama still a member of the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why isn’t Michelle Obama still a member of the Illinois bar, after only about four years of practice, and where are all of the relevant documents?
Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.
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Obama said the Muslim call to prayer
is “one of the prettiest sounds on earth,”
in an interview with Nicholas Kristof,
published
in The New York Times. Kristof described Obama’s recitation of the Muslim call to prayer,
the Adhan, “with a first-class [Arabic]
accent.”
The opening lines of the Adhan (Azaan) is the Shahada:
“Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
Allah is Supreme! Allah is Supreme!
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that there is no god but Allah
I witness that Muhammad is his prophet... “
According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada, the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim. This simple yet profound statement expresses a Muslim’s complete acceptance of, and total commitment to, the message of Islam.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.3413/pub_detail.asp
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/11679
http://jewagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/obama-muslim-call-to-prayer-one-of-the-prettiest-sounds-on-earth/
http://caosblog.com/archives/7373
Obama belonged to Rev. Wright’s (a former Muslim) church for twenty years. Many congregants are Muslims.
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/04/07/jeremiah-wright-former-muslim/
http://infidelsarecool.com/2008/03/20/rev-wright-got-his-masters-degree-in-islam-in-west-africa/
http://endtimes.yuku.com/forum/viewtopic/id/289
• Obama’s said that the U.S. is “one of the largest Muslim countries in the world.”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/9959057/Barack_Hussein_Obama_US_one_of_the_largest_Muslim_countries_in_the_world/
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/06/obama_america_one_of_the_large_1.asp
• Obama holds Muslim celebrations in the WH but canceled the National Day of Prayer.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1724544/obama_cancels_national_day_of_prayer.html?cat=9
http://www.exposeobama.com/
• Obama holds Muslim celebrations in the WH but canceled the National Day of Prayer.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1724544/obama_cancels_national_day_of_prayer.html?cat=9
http://www.exposeobama.com/
• President Obama’s religious adviser, Eboo Patel, once deemed the United States “the ideal place for the renewal of Islam.”
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/06/-obama-tells-egyptian-foreign-minister-i-am-a-muslim-stealth-coup-on-the-white-house.html
• Obama falsely attributes Muslim participation in the founding of America.
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/id.7041/pub_detail.asp
• Obama required that the cross be covered when he gave a speech at Notre Dame.
http://blog.acton.org/archives/9843-notre-dame-georgetown-and-president-obama.html
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/05/11/opinion/main5006203.shtml
http://dougpowers.com/2009/04/17/obamas-jesus-coverup/
• Christian symbol covered up during Obama’s Georgetown speech
http://myfaithspace.ning.com/profiles/blogs/obama-covers-christ-and-cross
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=46667
• Obama’s first major speech in office was a “Muslim outreach” speech in Cairo Egypt.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8083171.stm
Obama gave strong support to the Cordoba House community center and mosque to be built at the Ground Zero site of Sep. 11, 2001 at a dinner celebrating the day’s end of the first day of Ramadan at the WH.
http://www.aolnews.com/surge-desk/article/president-obama-supports-ground-zero-mosque/19593492?ncid=webmail
• Obama tasked NASA with a mission of “Muslim outreach.”
http://technology.newsplurk.com/2010/07/nasa-and-islam.html
• Obama referred to his faith as “my Muslim faith” gaffe in an interview with George Stephanopolous.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I
• Pushes Islamic freedom of religion but not Jewish or Christian freedoms. Several weeks ago he told Israel NOT to build settlements in East Jerusalem. But OK to build that Mosque at Ground Zero.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/7514285/Israel-spits-in-Obamas-eye-by-announcing-new-settlements-in-east-Jerusalem.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/mar/24/barack-obama-israel-settlement-plan
.
More evidence that Obama is a Muslim from his own speeches (video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY
• The FIRST thing Obama did as a newly elected Illinois State Senator was to attempt to declare a Muslim holiday. Obama sponsored Bill SR0110 in the 90th General Assembly to declare November 1, 1997 to be Islamic Community Center Day. It did not pass.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/summary/900SR0110.html
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet90/srgroups/sr/900SR0110LV.html
.
Obama appoints Muslims to key security
posts:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134466
.
Foreign Minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said
he had a one-on-one meeting with Obama,
where Obama told him that
He was still a Muslim,
and that he was sympathetic towards
the Muslim agenda.
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/76/647/Egyptian_minister:_Obama_told_me_he_is_a_Muslim.html
.
Little known facts about Obama:
In 2001, Obama sponsored Illinois Senate Bill 750 creating the “Halal Food Act,” providing for inspections by the Department of Agriculture to ensure that all food labeled Halal is prepared according to Islamic law. http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/legisnet92/summary/920SB0750.html
This act plays into Islamization. Here’s how it works and how Halal food plays a role:
“From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
They will push for the introduction of halaal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply


68 posted on 02/18/2011 1:02:13 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: patriot08

Wow! Nice summary of Zero-Muslim connections!

Also, I’m waiting for Odumbo’s explanation of how he got a Connecticut Social Security number while a 16-year-old living in Hawaii.


69 posted on 02/18/2011 4:17:25 PM PST by Zman516 (muslims, marxists, communists ---> satan's useful idiot corps)
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To: Zman516

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Thanks.
Isn’t all of the stuff about Obongo ridiculous?
Numerous names he has gone by, dozens of social security numbers..ridiculous.
Just what in the holy h*ll have we got sitting in the White House?

Speaking of all the stuff on him, do you know about ‘The Obama File’, by our own Freeper, Beckwith?
http://theobamafile.com/
It contains just about all we know about him all compiled in one place and is excellent.

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70 posted on 02/18/2011 6:34:26 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: TheThinker

Even the koranimals call him a holy koranimal.

Why? Well, because he is one.

3@me!


71 posted on 02/18/2011 7:15:56 PM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bergmeid

“Both of his daddies were muslim, and according to the koran that makes him a muslim.”

BINGO!! And he has never disavowed Islam, merely “claimed” to be a Christian which is an approved method to mislead us infidels. Had he truly converted from Islam, some imam somewhere would have pronounced a fatwa condemning his apostacy!

JC


72 posted on 02/18/2011 7:34:29 PM PST by cracker45 (I don't believe in coincidences!)
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