Posted on 12/14/2010 11:57:17 AM PST by Nachum
In a meeting with U.S. envoy George Mitchell in Ramallah on Tuesday, Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas expressed his disappointment with the United States for failing to declare that talks on borders with Israel will be based on 1967 lines. Abbas said he was upset that Mitchell insisted that border negotiations won't necessarily be based on 1967 lines, a term former prime ministers Ehud Barak and Ehud Olmert committed to in the past.
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no, they lost, israel won.....
The response should be a loud “**** you” while simultaneously laughing. I expect though, that Obama would jump at the preposterous idea.
surprise, surprise.
And when they win this argument, they will want Israel to to revert to the pre-1947 borders, i.e. just disappear.
MEMO to US Government: Get out of Middle East.
To the winner go the spoils. Israel was attacked, Israel won, Israel keeps the land. Deal with it.
“no, they lost, israel won.....”
Yes, paraphrasing Dear Leader, that’s all that matters. Besides, going back to pre-1967 borders would be militarily foolish. And giving up land to the Palestinians for promises is equally foolish.
Next up, Mexico wants to redraw their lines to before 1830.
When you lose a war, if you lose land, you continue to have lost the land.
Just one of the many well-known negatives of losing a war.
ML/NJ
I suppose if they want to “re-fight” that war again,
we’ll see how it comes out this time.
Of course, they’ll have to agree to the new borders following this re-do.
Yes, but WHICH 1967 borders? I don’t think Israel would mind returning to the borders of June 12, 1967 for example (before they gave back the Sinai and Golan Heights).
Israel’s stated position should be that from now on it will seize all the land of any state that attacks it and never return it. Make that your position, repeat it often and carry through. Zero mercy for any of the conquered people who don’t toe the line afterward. Do that, I think, and the rags will leave you alone.
How about we go back to our pre 1620 borders while we are at it..?
Why ANY President puts his power and prestige on the line to try and broker “peace” between Israel and the Arabs there is beyond me. Every President from Truman on has tried and failed.
Its very simple - the Palestinian “leaders” just want continued welfare from the World to fight each-other and keep their kleptocracy afloat. One can not achieve anything with such people.
If Wikileaks showed us anything, its that the Arab States really have no problem with Israel. Their anti-Israeli propoganda is just for show. They really are more worried about Iran, Al Qaeda, and each other.
Sorry Sandmaggots...
First of all, the U.S. was not a participant in that war, on either side.
Second, YOU LOST.
Never, in the history of the world, has the loser of a war dictated terms for ending it, directly or indirectly.
So suck it up, porkchops...
abbas and the rest of the world have their “final solution” to the Jewish problem, but this time Jews are armed to the teeth and will not go quietly in the night, even to the U.S.
Thanks Nachum. And thanks bsaunders for this related one:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/141118
I truly never understood this. Why do they insist on 1967 borders and not 1948 borders? They are dumb.
If they insist on 1967 borders, then they get no connecting strip between Gaza and the West Bank. They are dumb. So it seems reasonable to swap some land if only to keep their state contiguous.
They need Israel no matter what happens. Who will be their biggest trading partner? Only Jordan and Egypt shares a border with them, and Jordan only with the WB and Egypt only with Gaza. Israel is the only country that shares a border with bot Gaza and WB and Egypt and Jordan and Syria and Lebanon. Israel is richer per capita than all the Arab neighbors put together. Palestinians need Israel for a whole lot more than to just quit XYZ territory, they need Israel for everything that comes AFTER they have a state.
They think they will live on perpetual hand-outs from Europe and the USA? No trade? No commerce? No Industry?
Currently they have no central bank, no currency of their own. They can run into Jordan’s arms if they want, but it will be the dumbest thing they could do. Jordan would squash them like bugs. Only Israel would put up with so much of this crap they lay time and time again, and still be willing to trade with them, help them improve their agricultural output, buy their industrial products, and hire their citizens for blue collar jobs.
Israel could, in theory, bring in 300,000 guest workers from Phillipines, Thailand and other places to do this same work and shut the border with the Palestinian state. Why the Palestinians want to be bad neighbors with the only country that could truly deliver them to peace and prosperity is beyond me - relgious/ethnic chauvanism, racism, those are the only reasons that explain their stance.
If youd like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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OK, now George has his instructions, and he can be a non-partisan broker.
Welcome to the Middle East.
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