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Rove: Sarah Palin Needs To Show She Can "Unify" Republicans
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Posted on 11/26/2010 2:02:46 PM PST by ChicagoConservative27

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To: ChicagoConservative27

And must say somewhere that Barbara Bush stabbed W in the back my dissing Sarah.....her comments undid all the good will he was making with his book tour, he never spoke against Sarah, and along comes his Mom with her nasty comment about Sarah and it just crushes all the good will W had earned.....everyone laid that comment at HIS feet...fair or not.


101 posted on 11/26/2010 6:13:13 PM PST by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: jerry557
That right there is what Karl Rove is worried about. Palin must try to connect with those independents.

That right there is where Karl Rove is lying, and so are the polls. Independent does not equal moderate, and that is where the polls are lying.

When the pollsters say "x percentage of moderates do not like Palin", what they are saying is that "x percentage of moderate Democrats and liberal Republicans do not like Palin", but they follow up with a totally unrelated conclusion such as, "Palin must improve her numbers among independents", which is not indicated at all from their polling questions and responses. That's how the polling game is played.

Independents are the notorious swing voters, who tend to go back and forth between the lesser of two evils, until they are given a distinctly different choice, as they were in so many of these mid-term races, and they chose the "conservative" candidates in the vast majority of these mid-term races.

Palin does better than OK among independents, and probably better than most among "moderate" Democrats (which are generally the Reagan Democrats). She may not do as well among the liberal Republicans (like Rove), but that bunch of noisy, squishy Republicans only makes up about five percent of Republican voters.

Otherwise, Tokyo Rove and his RINO friends would be totally ignoring Sarah Palin, and letting her run and lose in the primaries and caucuses. Rove knows Palin is going to run, and that she is going to win, both the primaries and the general election, and he and his corrupt bunch will get cut out of tons of ill-gotten gain.

102 posted on 11/26/2010 6:19:53 PM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: The Comedian
Thank you for that. You've oviously never met the little minx.

The mere suggestion has me laughing seriously hard. I'd almost pay to see that. She has a right cross that rattles distant bones, and she absolutely does not suffer bullsh*t. I dated her for six months before I got a peck on the cheek. No lie.

Anybody "swoops in" once I'm gone (she is many years my junior), they'd better keep their chin down tight.

All kidding aside, I don't do "conscience."

;-\

103 posted on 11/26/2010 6:36:05 PM PST by Gargantua (Another reason why everyone should own fully automatic weapons...)
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To: Gargantua
;-)


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

104 posted on 11/26/2010 6:53:44 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

It’s a trap. Rove doesn’t like Sarah anymore than he liked Christine O’Donnell. HE certainly doesn’t have her best interests at heart. He will likely be in the corner of a Mitch Daniels, Mitt Romney or perhaps Tim Pawlenty when the time comes. But he WON’T be with Sarah. And he doesn’t want to help her in the meantime.


105 posted on 11/26/2010 7:07:37 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: ChicagoConservative27
It is difficult to unite all republicans. Especially those who are really democrats, "Compassionate Conservatives Socialists" or worse.


106 posted on 11/26/2010 7:23:18 PM PST by Iron Munro (This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

A Palin candidacy would be a stick in the eye to the ‘Establishment’, to the ‘Elites’, to the ‘Socialists’, to the ‘Libtards’, to the ‘RATs’, to the ‘RINOs’, and to anyone else out there who even THINKS that there is a better CONSERVATIVE candidate with past Executive experience that is still ‘alive’ and their name is not Ronald Reagan!


107 posted on 11/26/2010 7:28:49 PM PST by LibFreeUSA (Show me what Obama brought that was new and there you will find things only radical and destructive.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Hi CC ... give Sarah a supply of rails, feathers, and tar, and she’ll unify the GOP all right!


108 posted on 11/26/2010 7:32:08 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012: don't retreat, just reload)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
“Unify Republicans”.

Okay, what does that mean?

IMHO it means that anyone who isn’t supported by the inside the beltway faction needs to stop running for office.

The drive for unit got us John McCain in 2008. Twelve years earlier it got us Bob Dole because it was “His turn”.

Excuse me, I want ideas from people who have done something in the last 25 years other than being a politician. Look at how much our society has changed in 25 years. How can we expect a person who has lived inside the beltway for most of that time have any understanding of what we, The People, are worried about?

Sorry Karl, we are seeing the beginning of a systemic change in American Politics. Your model is no longer functional so please don't tell me what a “Post-TEA Party” candidate has to do. That makes as much sense as a buggy whip manufacturer telling Henry Ford how to make accelerators for his cars.

109 posted on 11/26/2010 7:33:42 PM PST by Nip
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Karl needs to show me that he can shut if fat mouth long enough to figure out that Romney is dead meat. If they put up Romney, they are giving the Presidency to the Dems for another four years.


110 posted on 11/26/2010 9:40:43 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Marxist democrat have a severe problem with her. INDY's not so much. Good that Rove approves that's she's going to Iowa twice...lol. Nice also, that he realizes she is trying to unite the Republican Party, if only he and others would stop bashing and back-stabbing her. A level playing field and a couple of compliments for her good work would be appreciated.

RASMUSSEN'S POLL: 52% of Voters Say Their Views Are More Like Palin’s Than Obama’s

Whose views are closer to your own? Palin/Obama

Overall: 52/40

Male: 55/37
Female: 48/43
White: 58/35
Black: 5/87
GOP: 84/9
DEM: 14/81
INDY: 59/27
Conservative: 80/12
Moderate: 28/61
Liberal: 14/85

111 posted on 11/26/2010 11:14:31 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Terpfen

Actually, every candidate gets votes from the other party’s registered voters.

For example, Christine O’Donnell got 9% of the Democrat’s votes in Delaware. However, to win in Delaware, you need a LOT more democrats to vote for you, because they have a huge registration edge.

In contrast, Rand Paul got 24% of the democrats in Kentucky.

Rove is absolutely right that to win the presidency, you need to convince independents and democrats to vote for the conservative candidate. Ronald Reagan did it — that’s how he won 49 states.


112 posted on 11/27/2010 12:24:27 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: LibFreeUSA

You’re right. That would be BLASPHEMY.


113 posted on 11/27/2010 12:30:40 AM PST by FTJM
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To: Sarah Barracuda

In Florida, conservative Rubio got 8% of the democrat vote. Rand Paul got 24% of the democrat vote in Kentucky. And in Wisconson, Johnson got 8%. O’Donnell got 9% in her losing effort in Delaware. And DeMint got 14% of the democratic vote in South Carolina.

So you are wrong. Democrats WILL vote for a conservative. And I bet if you look at exit polls from 2006, you’ll find that Sarah Palin got democratic votes for Governor.

Republicans are a minority of registered and likely voters. Conservatives are a minority of voters. Nobody is going to win the Presidency without appealing to independents and democrats.

The key is to do so without compromising your principles. Ronald Reagan did it. SO it can be done.


114 posted on 11/27/2010 12:33:27 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: prisoner6

“What a jackwagon!”

Wanna tissue? THUMP! lol

I love that commercial! It is very pointed as to what is wrong with those running the country, and what is needed to fix it.

Ruling class vs Country class.

The “shrink” is definitely Country class. ;o)


115 posted on 11/27/2010 12:36:05 AM PST by dixiechick2000 ("First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." - Gandhi)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Seperated at birth?
116 posted on 11/27/2010 3:21:44 AM PST by mirkwood (Palin-Bolton 2012)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Karl, please don’t bother with this crap. Your boy, Romney, isn’t going anywhere no matter who you try to block. Just accept it. The RINO is not the party mascot any more. Move on.


117 posted on 11/27/2010 3:30:47 AM PST by anton
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Because the GOP comprises Conservatives, Soros operatives, and the new world order crowd, which also has its factions. It’s not divided; it’s shattered. Without the TEA party, the Republicans would never win again, by you-know-whose design. Rove is NWO. Sarah, be strong.


118 posted on 11/27/2010 4:45:27 AM PST by TheOldLady (The only way to run our country is conservatively.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Actually, every candidate gets votes from the other party’s registered voters.

Yes, I know that. But it’s a small amount and shouldn’t be specifically pursued as a means to victory. Rove’s idea is to have the candidate change his policies and rhetoric to appeal to the other party, but then the candidate winds up losing the support of his own base. He’s not talking about, say, Reagan Democrats.
119 posted on 11/27/2010 6:11:19 AM PST by Terpfen (Buh-bye, Suntan Charlie.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

He keeps talking about Sarah dividing the Republicans...I think he and the elite, like him, hatch, cornyn, and a few other professional elected are the dividers. Us in flyover America are pretty straight forward conservatives. We believe in the constitution, the right to work, we’re the ones who’ve worn the uniform to keep America free..have they? I think not.


120 posted on 11/27/2010 6:21:52 AM PST by tillacum
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To: presently no screen name
Rove is telling it like it is.
Sarah needs “independents” and more women t win...just likeany other candidate would need...you jump on Rove for every word he says,,,he know about politics...even if you all don;t like him. I listen to what he has to say, and he makes political sense...
121 posted on 11/27/2010 6:22:29 AM PST by southphilly
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To: ChicagoConservative27

As long as the alphabet propganda agencies exist, Sarah Palin, or any Conservative, will never get an honers, fair shake. She will never have the truth told about her. Everything she does and says will be reported in a negative light.

How to make them disappear? Don’t watch them. Simple as that.


122 posted on 11/27/2010 6:33:46 AM PST by sport
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To: southphilly
he [Rove] know about politics

Yes, he does, but he is still a paid political operative just like Dick Morris except with a larger organization to play with. His political goals are not to be viewed as unbiased, nor are his political opinions IMO.

123 posted on 11/27/2010 6:42:10 AM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality. Save America From Bankruptcy.)
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To: windsorknot
Roll over, Rove(r), and let Sarah take over.

Well player sir.

124 posted on 11/27/2010 6:47:35 AM PST by InternetTuffGuy
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To: patriot preacher
He (The %#^^^#$ Architect) will likely be in the corner of a Mitch Daniels, Mitt Romney or perhaps Tim Pawlenty when the time comes.

I will be watching closely the staff hierarchy of the candidates. Those sporting the likes of Steve Schmidt, Nicolle Wallace, Karl Rove, Mike Murphy, etc. can forget about my vote.

125 posted on 11/27/2010 6:53:35 AM PST by Night Hides Not (If Dick Cheney = Darth Vader, then Joe Biden = Dark Helmet)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

The concept of Tokyo Rove lecturing anyone on the subject “unifying” is hilarious!


126 posted on 11/27/2010 7:16:44 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Terpfen

Palin has a problem with rats in that she unifies them. You should grasp this fact.


127 posted on 11/27/2010 11:41:45 AM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: Jim Scott

Not this time, Karl. Sarah Palin is going to change the game and doesn’t need your approval to do so. She already has ours.

&&
Well said!


128 posted on 11/27/2010 1:06:56 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Once-Ler

You realize that I’m not advocating on behalf of Palin, correct?

Apparently not.


129 posted on 11/27/2010 2:56:52 PM PST by Terpfen (Buh-bye, Suntan Charlie.)
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To: Terpfen
Rove’s idea is to have the candidate change his policies and rhetoric to appeal to the other party

I suppose that's possible, but you didn't get that from this article.

130 posted on 11/27/2010 7:47:43 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Terpfen
"She's got a problem with Independents and she has a problem with Democrats," Rove said about Palin's rating with these groups.

So… Rove expects Democrats to vote for Republicans? Really? No wonder Bush kept pushing statist programs.

Palin has a problem with rats in that she unifies them. You should grasp this fact.

You realize that I’m not advocating on behalf of Palin, correct?

Apparently not.

I shouldn't be suprised after you criticize Rove and Bush that you also don't like Palin. Perhaps you prefer to spend your time on Freerepublic criticizing the former administration instead of the current rat President or rat majority in the Senate. Whether you are an anti-GOP conservative, is irrelevant to me. I merely wished to say that Rove doesn't expect "Democrats to vote for Republicans? Really?", but that Palin will motivate rats to the polls against her unlike Rudy, or Romney. I wasn't sure, from your response, that you understand what he was trying to convey.

Of course rats DO sometimes vote GOP. They voted GOP when they got tired of Carter and when they saw the anti-American side of the rats in 2004.

Who ever the GOP candidate is will be better than 0.

131 posted on 11/27/2010 8:37:09 PM PST by Once-Ler (ProLife ProGun ProGod ProSoldier ProBusiness Republican for Palin)
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To: Once-Ler
I shouldn't be suprised after you criticize Rove and Bush that you also don't like Palin.

Congratulations, two misinterpretations in a row! Because you’re pretty thick, allow me to spell out for you exactly what I’m saying:

1. Karl Rove is incorrect that a Republican presidential candidate needs Democrat crossover votes to win. They are most certainly helpful, as are any other form of vote, but due to inherent policy disagreements Democrats are unlikely to willingly vote for a Republican and so any form of Democrat support should not be sought on the part of a Republican candidate. If the candidate gets Democrat votes, great. If not, oh well. The handful of votes that would be acquired are not worth the amounts of campaign time and money necessary to secure them.

2. Rove’s past actions of having his candidate tailor policy and campaign rhetoric in order to help secure the votes of the opposite party ended in disaster. How many here lambaste GWB for not defending himself, or for the prescription drug plan, for TARP, or for any other policy meant to appease Democrats? It didn’t work. For Rove to come out and say that the 2012 candidate needs essentially do what GWB did is wrong and demonstrates an inability on Rove’s part to learn from his own failures, or to even perceive what is and isn’t a failure.

3. None of this is a reflection on the political viability of Sarah Palin as a presidential candidate. It is simply a refutation of Rove’s mindless “let’s give the Democrats most of what they want” campaign style. The end result of pretending to be a Democrat is the election of the genuine article. Reference Obama.

Do us both a favor and stop replying to my posts. Your lack of reading comprehension makes communication difficult.

Oh, and I like Sarah Palin. She has my vote over Romney, Suckabee, and Pawlenty.
132 posted on 11/28/2010 3:07:17 AM PST by Terpfen (Buh-bye, Suntan Charlie.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
I suppose that's possible, but you didn't get that from this article.

I got it by remembering that Rove was the campaign manager for the 2000 and 2004 Republican presidential candidate. Remember when we hated GWB for the prescription drug plan and other assorted Democrat-like spending? Rove is saying that’s okay because Republicans need to specifically target Democrat votes to win elections, an idea which was the centerpiece of the two campaigns he managed.
133 posted on 11/28/2010 3:09:52 AM PST by Terpfen (Buh-bye, Suntan Charlie.)
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